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Old 18-03-2012, 12:53 PM
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Shout it for the rooftop!

Something that came to me yesterday was that some think you can't talk about Truth, The Absolute, Unconditional Love, the Nothingness or what ever you want to call "it", On several occasions I have read here on the forum that we can't do that and I see it reflected in the eastern religions.

Not attacking the eastern religions...I love them all....but I think there is a misunderstanding between what is being taught and what is being learned. To me the expressions that you can't put Truth into words, does not mean we can't try, it just means that words are limited.

Jesus did not teach to hold back but to shout it from the rooftop.
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Old 18-03-2012, 01:24 PM
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. To me the expressions that you can't put Truth into words, does not mean we can't try, it just means that words are limited.
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Absolutely Shabbs,

I would say shabbs that there is an art in choosing one's words as like a poet in expression of one of his poems .

It is what is behind one's words that will contain an essence or a flavour of one's awareness ...

I have been in a mindful enviroment where I kept everything within, I have started to find my own voice as they say but as yet I am not shouting from the roof tops lol ..

Perhaps I am whispering into the wind .... lol .

x daz x
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Old 18-03-2012, 02:13 PM
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Absolutely Shabbs,

I would say shabbs that there is an art in choosing one's words as like a poet in expression of one of his poems .

It is what is behind one's words that will contain an essence or a flavour of one's awareness ...

I have been in a mindful enviroment where I kept everything within, I have started to find my own voice as they say but as yet I am not shouting from the roof tops lol ..

Perhaps I am whispering into the wind .... lol .

x daz x

Thank you Gods and a thank you to all of you that have said I can't or I should not, you have helped me to realize ....I am free to be : )
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Old 18-03-2012, 02:18 PM
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Something that came to me yesterday was that some think you can't talk about Truth, The Absolute, Unconditional Love, the Nothingness or what ever you want to call "it", On several occasions I have read here on the forum that we can't do that and I see it reflected in the eastern religions.

Not attacking the eastern religions...I love them all....but I think there is a misunderstanding between what is being taught and what is being learned. To me the expressions that you can't put Truth into words, does not mean we can't try, it just means that words are limited.

Jesus did not teach to hold back but to shout it from the rooftop.

The problem is Shabby in 'why' people feel the need to shout their truth, as I see it anyways.

The need to shout as way of sharing is one thing but to teach is another.

Which are you talking about here...............cuz if it is to teach and you fel that it needs to be heard, then maybe you can go door to door or carry a sign on the street corner or in front of all the churches in your town.
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Old 18-03-2012, 02:42 PM
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The problem is Shabby in 'why' people feel the need to shout their truth, as I see it anyways.

The need to shout as way of sharing is one thing but to teach is another.

Which are you talking about here...............cuz if it is to teach and you fel that it needs to be heard, then maybe you can go door to door or carry a sign on the street corner or in front of all the churches in your town.

It has nothing to do with teaching or a need to be heard. It is more an awareness of freeing one self from restricted beliefs and the judgment of them.
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Old 18-03-2012, 02:50 PM
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It has nothing to do with teaching or a need to be heard. It is more an awareness of freeing one self from restricted beliefs and the judgment of them.

Meaning you feel soooo good that you just want to shout and therefore you feel you should and that is the meaning of your thread?

If so, you mentioned Jesus and what he said above, do you believe that is also what Jesus meant when he said that?

Just asking............
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Old 18-03-2012, 03:01 PM
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The message of kindness, love and service transcends all religions.
So yes, shout it from the rooftops, the more people hear it the better - and the more they hear it, the more it will grow on them.

Keep it pithy and simple though, phrase your words so all can understand.
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Old 18-03-2012, 04:20 PM
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Meaning you feel soooo good that you just want to shout and therefore you feel you should and that is the meaning of your thread?

If so, you mentioned Jesus and what he said above, do you believe that is also what Jesus meant when he said that?

Just asking............

LOL Well, I will just answer. Why? Because I am free to do so. As we are all free to do so. We are all free to teach, preach, share, listen, learn or ignore. Do what ever serves you....I have no judgment an any of it...I actually see the beauty of it all : )

To your question on what Jesus said: Yes I interpret Jesus words of “What I tell you in the dark, say in the light, and what you hear whispered, proclaim on the housetops" as what ever awareness we have and what ever we have realized act upon it, share it...be "it".
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Old 18-03-2012, 09:03 PM
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Something that came to me yesterday was that some think you can't talk about Truth, The Absolute, Unconditional Love, the Nothingness or what ever you want to call "it", On several occasions I have read here on the forum that we can't do that and I see it reflected in the eastern religions.

Not attacking the eastern religions...I love them all....but I think there is a misunderstanding between what is being taught and what is being learned. To me the expressions that you can't put Truth into words, does not mean we can't try, it just means that words are limited.

Jesus did not teach to hold back but to shout it from the rooftop.

Shabby, you are so wise.

Certainly no religion should be and I love them all to. I haven't heard such love said before, but I'm kinda a reserve guy.
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Old 18-03-2012, 09:13 PM
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LOL Well, I will just answer. Why? Because I am free to do so. As we are all free to do so. We are all free to teach, preach, share, listen, learn or ignore. Do what ever serves you....I have no judgment an any of it...I actually see the beauty of it all : )

To your question on what Jesus said: Yes I interpret Jesus words of “What I tell you in the dark, say in the light, and what you hear whispered, proclaim on the housetops" as what ever awareness we have and what ever we have realized act upon it, share it...be "it".

It has always been my feeling, position, and teaching if I hear you correctly, we already know. It has always been there, like a eureka moment and you just have to smack yourself in the middle of the forehead. There is always both message and messenger.
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