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Old 07-01-2012, 08:08 PM
Shabby
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Spiritual Healing

Looking through the threads I did not see one on Spiritual Healing. Spiirtual Healing is not the only way to heal, but still a very profound one never the less.

The best book I read on this subject was The Art of Spiritual Helaing by Joel Goldberg. Joel was a Mystic, a Spiritual Teacher and a Spiritual Healer.

His belief (in my words) in short was that we were one with God and perfection. Spiritual Healing takes place when in individual realizes this truth for him self or another in the appearance of an illness or disease. Spiritual Healing does not involve the "patient" and the patient is not asked to do anything to cause a healing to take place. The healer also does not do anything to remove the appearance but recongizes the appearance as a manifestation of a belief in a separation from God. There is a temption to fear or fight the appearance, but the healer does not give in to the tempatation but holds steady to the truth inspite of the appearance.

Miracles in this sense are not actions of God but the dropping of an illusion.

As with all alternative healing methods I would suggest not to rely soley on them but to consult your doctor and use alternative methods together with traditional methods for the best outcome possible.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:28 PM
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This makes perfect sense..to me. "Hold steady the truth inspite of the appearance"....being fully present allowing it all.



Brick by brick we build our lives, in between is his gift to us....(with thanks from my inspiring brother in spirit)
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:11 PM
amy green
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How would you appraise someone who has a gift to heal animals but is out of step/abusive to humans?
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:42 PM
Shabby
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How would you appraise someone who has a gift to heal animals but is out of step/abusive to humans?

Hi Amy,
I am not sure I understand your question. You know someone that is a healer but abusive to humans?

Reading this reminds me of a lady interviewed while she was homeless living on the streets of New York with her three dogs. Upon reading the signed she held up asking for donations she found three different people that each took in one of her dogs but left her on the street.

Never the less...healing is needed where ever there is an appearance of discord : )
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:38 AM
Shabby
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I experienced spiritual healing and being a healer a little different than Joel Goldsmith even though the principles are the same.

When I was 9 years old I had a bad kidney and doctors were considering a removal and when I was 15 years old I was diagnosed with scoliosis, which I suffered backache from for over 10 years. I healed without any medication or operation.

In 2000 I called my aunt in Germany to wish her a happy birthday. I asked her how she felt and she told me she was in great pain with arthritis. We hung up the phone and I didn't her from her for a few weeks, then my mother called me saying she had just talked to my aunt and my aunt asked her if I was a healer because after our phone call she was able to sleep through the whole night without pain and asked if I could please do it again what ever I did.

At that time I noticed other people bringing illness and diseases to my attention and healing, but I was not "doing" anything nor do I have any power outside of God.

I believe it is the consciousness in which I dwell that brings about healings. I believe that all things are possible to God and that God did not create illness and disease. I love people and feel a deep compassion for those suffering.
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Old 11-01-2012, 06:52 AM
silent whisper
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I experienced spiritual healing and being a healer a little different than Joel Goldsmith even though the principles are the same.

When I was 9 years old I had a bad kidney and doctors were considering a removal and when I was 15 years old I was diagnosed with scoliosis, which I suffered backache from for over 10 years. I healed without any medication or operation.

In 2000 I called my aunt in Germany to wish her a happy birthday. I asked her how she felt and she told me she was in great pain with arthritis. We hung up the phone and I didn't her from her for a few weeks, then my mother called me saying she had just talked to my aunt and my aunt asked her if I was a healer because after our phone call she was able to sleep through the whole night without pain and asked if I could please do it again what ever I did.

At that time I noticed other people bringing illness and diseases to my attention and healing, but I was not "doing" anything nor do I have any power outside of God.

I believe it is the consciousness in which I dwell that brings about healings. I believe that all things are possible to God and that God did not create illness and disease. I love people and feel a deep compassion for those suffering.

Love has the potential to heal and bring miracles.....spirit has the divine plan in order....lovely story shabby, that deep compassion for the suffering is a gift to others.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:19 PM
Shabby
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Love has the potential to heal and bring miracles.....spirit has the divine plan in order....lovely story shabby, that deep compassion for the suffering is a gift to others.

I agree Silent Whisper. In one of my meditations my grandmother who healed people by laying her hands on them told me to heal people, when I asked how she said through compassion.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:45 PM
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It seems to me that in order for a (spiritual) healing to come through that there has to be a witness present. In the beginning I was the witness later it became others, but that was a choice. They had the choice to see the Truth which would build their faith or dismiss the healing as a coincidence or a result from an action they took.

Example: My son's ex girlfriend's father was suffering of Cancer. He was being treated for cancer by his doctor and it was brought to my attention but a healing did not come through. My son didn't see or hear anything from his ex for a few weeks when me and him were sitting down one day and talking about Spiritual healing and he noted that his ex girlfriends father did not heal even though it was brought to my attention. Right then and there it occurred to me that not his girlfriend but my son was to be the witness. So, I said to him: If your girl friend's father went to the doctor today and the doctor said that he was healed and your girl friend came over to our house to tell us the good news...would you believe in the power of God? He laughed and said of course.... knowing that he had been separated from his girl friend and not heard from her for weeks. Besides what are the odds of her father going to the doctor that day and the doctor saying he was healed? Yet it came to pass. His girl friend showed up that afternoon at our door with the biggest smile on her face saying that her father went to the doctor this morning and the doctor said that he was cancer free.
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Old 14-01-2012, 04:23 PM
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Spiritual healing is a subject of great interest to me.

The primary considerations are that any manifested illness is a result of an out of balance energetic condition. The bearing witness process is recognizing that the illness is appropriate within the context of the greater scheme of things. The act of recognizing that reality, bearing witness to it, can bring a loving balance to that energetic awareness. As the energy itself becomes more balanced, healing will result.

That was a nice story about your son's ex girlfriend. What I find most interesting is how you influenced those outcome potentials by imagining that sequence of events. It is my understanding that you did this by using telepathy(a shared experience) with those who were involved with this event. By stating your imagined sequence of events, you bore witness to a potential and influenced its eventual outcome.

I hope my views on this are helpful.

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Old 14-01-2012, 05:38 PM
Shabby
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Hey John!
Yes spiritual healing is of great interest to me too ...right after knowing thy Self.

I am still researching this subject as I don't have all the ins and outs on this subject. I can so far only speak from my own experience but hope to gain more knowledge from others and their experience.

The experiences I am particularly interested in are those where there is no intent on healing...more like faith healing...no... more like consciousness healing meaning where one is a witness to a healing for no apparent reason: There was a problem and it disappeared. I ask why? How? What does that particular person (whom it is appearing to) believe about the subject illness, miracles, God, Self. I want to know how we got from point a to point b based our our beliefs or thoughts and what we are aware of at the time when the healing took place. I believe we all have experienced things of such nature "miracles" but they are often dismissed by the mind for the purpose of a need to understand. And it happens so fast that we are not aware of our mind doing it. I am trying to slow down the process in order to dissect the details of this occurrence.
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