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Old 01-01-2012, 05:30 AM
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The only way to know for sure is to burn us all.


Then you would be really sure the devil wasnt talking through them. It worked great before didnt it?
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Old 01-01-2012, 06:40 AM
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The only way to know for sure is to burn us all.


Then you would be really sure the devil wasnt talking through them. It worked great before didnt it?
Obviously not!
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Old 01-01-2012, 07:03 AM
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Nobody is trying to hurt anyone and mediums and witches and everyone else inbetween is not evil we do not get our powers from the devil. This type of thinking truelly scares me bad..
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Old 01-01-2012, 07:09 AM
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The devil isn't interested in you.
He doesn't want your worship or devotion, he doesn't care if you love him or not. He never tests you or expects you to kill your only child to prove your love and devotion.
The devil never brought the flood to the world and attempted to kill all humanity.
He never destroyed two thriving cities, he didn't order his servants to smear lambs blood above the doors of his followers so they wouldn't have their children killed in his rage for blood.
He never took credit for the existance of humanity. Considering even the bible says there was already someone here.
What did god give humanity? death, pain, suffering, and with held knowledge of good and evil from us, so we would remain dupes to our own existance and potential. Then kicked us out of eden for fear we would become as gods and live forever.
The devil's followers gave many things to humanity. The first of these gifts was makeup, then metal working, astrology, mathematics and science. What did the angels give us? Nothing, yet we call on their kind every day and revile those that gave us everything.
That very brain that you used to think up this question, was developed using the gifts of education given to you by the devils followers.
How did god educate you? with rules and supression, with a monotheistic view point in a paternalistic indoctrination.

The devil never did any of these things, but god did... The devil isn't your enemy.


Maybe you shouldn't believe everything you read.......
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Old 01-01-2012, 09:25 AM
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@Elaine and D - first response.
1. There is no Mayan prophecy.
2. The bible is a work written by men with an agenda. Any "teachings" based on it are a mass of lies and contradictions.
3. If, and that's a big IF, Satan exists then his greatest work is the christian church which has managed to subvert the teachings of Christ. I am not christian but I do see Christ as an important teacher of mankind.
4. Are there phonies in the mediums/psychics ? Of course there are, just as there are many genuine ones. View anyone who asks for payment with suspicion, especially those with ridiculous made-up names or those who make claims about having angels on call 24/7.

I assume that you are christian from your words. Your god gave you intuition and judgement to use in smelling out phonies so trust your own judgement !
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Old 01-01-2012, 09:55 AM
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Maybe you shouldn't believe everything you read.......
hahahahaha. You don't get sarcasm do you.
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Old 01-01-2012, 10:24 AM
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Voluntarily Taking Substantial Disempowered Position

There are a number of issues here. How one sees the energies called God is relevant. Whether one believes in Satan & demons is another. The concern about being told the truth occupies a victim position of being manipulated.

The main issue is why you’re giving anyone else (demons) the ability to ‘take’ you away from anything. Move past this fear.

One can also ask if what we’ve been told about Satan & demons is totally bogus disinformation, meant to scare us, keeping us reliant on organized religion for protection (yes). All information that is based in fear can be safely discarded as not being from benevolent beings.
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Old 01-01-2012, 10:26 AM
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God Is Enemy?

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The devil never did any of these things, but god did... The devil isn't your enemy.

This seems to be implying that God is our enemy.
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Old 01-01-2012, 11:08 AM
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This seems to be implying that God is our enemy.

You said it ! Actually, a bit unkind that. It's the followers of God who are the enemy, the one's who twist and pervert the message.
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Old 01-01-2012, 12:04 PM
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This seems to be implying that God is our enemy.
Wow that is very astute of you.
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