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31-03-2011, 10:45 PM
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Is anyone here fully enlightened / spiritually awakened?
After reading Eckhart Tolle's A New Earth and Power of Now, researching Buddhism, Taoism, and Hinduism, practicing qigong energy work, and knowing people who have been manic (something I believe is at least in the same direction as awakening), I feel that I have a decent understanding of what enlightenment and spiritual awakening are or are said to be, and I do mostly believe in higher states or levels of consciousness, and I think I'm probably headed in that direction.
So is anyone here already there? Can you tell me what the transition was like for you, and what your life has been like since? And how do you know for sure that you personally are enlightened / awakened?
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31-03-2011, 11:33 PM
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Well from where I stand it is a process that I will continually be on until I cross over and even than I am not sure where enlightenment turns into being fully enlightened...woohoo but what a ride!
nightowl
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31-03-2011, 11:55 PM
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The question, is anyone Enlightened, will not be answered that simple by the one who is apparently Enlightened, when there has been a realization of what its all about, the one who Realizes this see's all others as Enlightened also, there is two selfs, the one who believes themselves to be separate and therefore Enlightenment is something to be gained outside of their self, and then there's the SELF, this is the Ocean beneath the illusion that you are separate, like a wave upon the ocean believing that it is separate from the ocean, no matter what the wave believes it is still the ocean, so you see all is already enlightened, whatever you do to try to be Enlightened is the illusion that your not.
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31-03-2011, 11:57 PM
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I don't believe people can reach FULL and UTTER enlightment. I don't think even Jesus attained that status as we're all after all humans.
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01-04-2011, 12:09 AM
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You see this is the illusion that the ego wants you to believe, the ego doesn't want to be Awakened, its enjoying its story that it has made in vain, to be Awaken doesn't mean that you become some type God who is so perfect in everything he or she does. So many are after some sort of great orgasm, but all Enlightenment is is simply who you truly are already, that's IT.
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A belief system is nothing but poison to your capacity to understand. Good words are used to hide ugly things. – Osho
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01-04-2011, 12:09 AM
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ego is needed to exist separate in the material world, maybe unless you isolate yourself from others, u cant become fully enlightened.
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01-04-2011, 12:12 AM
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There is no one to become Enlightened, the ego mind body organism can never be Enlightened, its the illusion of the mind that keeps Enlightenment in the dark. Drop the idea the you are the mind body organism and there is the light that was always there.
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Last edited by psychoslice : 01-04-2011 at 02:41 AM.
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01-04-2011, 12:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan H
After reading Eckhart Tolle's A New Earth and Power of Now, researching Buddhism, Taoism, and Hinduism, practicing qigong energy work, and knowing people who have been manic (something I believe is at least in the same direction as awakening), I feel that I have a decent understanding of what enlightenment and spiritual awakening are or are said to be, and I do mostly believe in higher states or levels of consciousness, and I think I'm probably headed in that direction.
So is anyone here already there? Can you tell me what the transition was like for you, and what your life has been like since? And how do you know for sure that you personally are enlightened / awakened?
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I don't think there's such a thing as "fully enlightened", because every moment brings us a new opportunity to remake ourselves anew. As long as we can imagine something higher than where we are now, then that higher something exists. The limit of enlightenment is the same as the limit of the human imagination.
CS
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01-04-2011, 01:16 AM
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Am I enlightened?
Yes, but not on this level.
Rah nam
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01-04-2011, 01:44 AM
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Love it Rah Nam.
Spiritlite.
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