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Old 06-06-2017, 03:53 AM
Surf Rider Surf Rider is offline
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Follow My Heart or Follow the Evidence?

I'm at a tough spot in my life. It seems that everything I was ever taught about life was a lie. All of it. Career, love, marriage, happiness....it was all a lie. I'm not sure what to believe now.

Take my Twin Flame. Meeting her was the most powerful experience I've ever had. We broke up three years ago, and my heart maintains the very strong feeling that she and I will be together again someday. Nothing feels more certain than she and I being reunited. Our future reunion feels like the greatest, most profound Truth of my life. It is the deepest desire of my heart to be reunited with her. I know in my heart of hearts that she and I will be together again in a beautiful love relationship.

Unfortunately, the facts and evidence in front of me don't support this feeling of my heart. She's been pretty clear that she is not interested in a relationship with me right now. She lives in a different state and there are some barriers to us getting together again.

So which is the truth? Is it truth of my heart, which is the very strong feeling I have that she and I will be together again someday? Or is it the truth of the evidence in front of me, which is that she is either unable or willing (or both) to get back together with me in a beautiful love relationship?

How do I find the truth? Do I follow the truth that is in my heart, or do I follow the truth in the apparent evidence in front of me?

And if my heart is wrong and I should follow the evidence, how do I make sense of the fact that my heart was so horribly wrong about something that felt more true and certain than anything else I've experienced?
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:19 AM
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Your heart will lead you to your truth
And the truth will lead you home... if you're willing to listen.

Although following the heart of the truth and the truth of the heart can be a funny road.

It requires complete trust and faith in the unfolding of what is both seen and unseen.

If you can really listen to your heart and your intuition it will guide you to where you need to go and that will be your answer for the moment.

I've been on this path for 5 years now and the truth is still revealing itself to me in bits and pieces.

It's basically a puzzle where each new piece is given according to divine timing.
The key to recieving each new puzzle piece seems to be surrender.

There seems to be many levels to surrender.

So far I've experienced surrender of ego Surrender of fear (to move to trust and heart based love)
Surrendering all control to my higher self (it knows better)
Surrendering to the bigger picture and the divine plan - (surrendering to cosmic love and love for earth as a unified force)
Surrendering to recieve

And yet... there is still much for me to surrender
I am surrendering to the continuous cycle of surrender Haha

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Old 06-06-2017, 05:32 AM
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I'm at a tough spot in my life. It seems that everything I was ever taught about life was a lie. All of it. Career, love, marriage, happiness....it was all a lie. I'm not sure what to believe now.

Take my Twin Flame. Meeting her was the most powerful experience I've ever had. We broke up three years ago, and my heart maintains the very strong feeling that she and I will be together again someday. Nothing feels more certain than she and I being reunited. Our future reunion feels like the greatest, most profound Truth of my life. It is the deepest desire of my heart to be reunited with her. I know in my heart of hearts that she and I will be together again in a beautiful love relationship.

Unfortunately, the facts and evidence in front of me don't support this feeling of my heart. She's been pretty clear that she is not interested in a relationship with me right now. She lives in a different state and there are some barriers to us getting together again.

So which is the truth? Is it truth of my heart, which is the very strong feeling I have that she and I will be together again someday? Or is it the truth of the evidence in front of me, which is that she is either unable or willing (or both) to get back together with me in a beautiful love relationship?

How do I find the truth? Do I follow the truth that is in my heart, or do I follow the truth in the apparent evidence in front of me?

And if my heart is wrong and I should follow the evidence, how do I make sense of the fact that my heart was so horribly wrong about something that felt more true and certain than anything else I've experienced?

That is a tough question. Do you follow your heart or what you know to be true currently?

Your heart sounds burdened and heavy. And your thoughts seem to indicate this.

You're feelings about the relationship are not neccessarily wrong. You know how you feel. You strongly feel there is a spiritual connection with this relationship, that can be hard to consider letting go of. You also know at this time, it appears she is not ready or willing to be with you and maintain this relationship. So what is the answer..

But is there really a choice? You can not force it. You can not make her want the same thing.

What choice then is there but to let go and see what happens? And undoubtedly it is going to be hard. But why should it remain that way? Why is it one can not let go of another and pull through the difficulties- which will most likely be emotional at this time, and then flourish?

Why is this individual so important to your happiness? Why is it you do not have faith or believe that you could attain happiness without them?

It seems in a situation where someone is telling you no, you have no choice but to respect that answer and let them go. But you do have other choices. You can choose yourself. You can choose to be happy irregardless of whether you reunite with this individual or not. You are not dependant on someone else to evoke your happiness.

I do not believe in catalysts. I never had a person be a spiritual catalyst for me. I am spiritual already. I do not need another to improve myself spiritually. I do that within. Everyone is quite capable of this. Do not use another as your excuse. Find something you enjoy doing and do that, be with people you enjoy being with. Live your life. Do not take it for granted. Realize that others need to make their own choices as well, and you are not responsible for her. You are responsible for yourself alone, unless you have children, then it's a whole other ball game. Then you are actually quite responsible for someone else, and that includes their safety.

Be happy being yourself. Doing that alone, is following your heart.

Be yourself, be happy with yourself, be who you are, and your heart will follow. And so will the world.

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Old 06-06-2017, 06:27 AM
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How do I find the truth? Do I follow the truth that is in my heart, or do I follow the truth in the apparent evidence in front of me?


You have a choice here. If you feel so strongly about her, you can just lay it all out on the line. There are no barriers to true love.
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Old 06-06-2017, 06:49 AM
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You have a choice here. If you feel so strongly about her, you can just lay it all out on the line. There are no barriers to true love.

I have written her probably more than a dozen emails over the last 3 years, and have sent maybe two of them. I recently wrote her an email where I really laid all my feelings out, but I didn't send it. I am hesitant to send it because I've sent her two messages in the last two months, one a heartfelt invitation to be more open about stuff, and she said she wasn't in a place right now where it would be wise to be more open, and an invitation to try to work things out in a relationship, which she responded to by saying that she is not interested in that right now. I'd love to send her the message where I lay it all out, but since she's rejected two of my attempts to move towards a relationship in the last two months, I feel that sending her a more intense message would come across and desperate and creepy. I'd love to send it, but she's already rejected me recently, and I feel like it would come across as creepy. But the again, what do I know?
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Old 06-06-2017, 08:17 AM
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i rejected mine for years , kept pushing him away he didnt give up tho . for 22 years lol . i finally had t work it out for mself . at the time i was caught up in a false twin and realised was caught up in illusions .my life didnt get better it got worse the more i ran . i was convinced i was not ready . . in the end i couldnt deny it no longer . now were married and lifes just getting better and better . give her space and time dont overhwlem her just keep being there for .loving and supporting her .
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Old 06-06-2017, 08:41 AM
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So which is the truth?
Truth:
-We broke up three years ago
-It is the deepest desire of my heart to be reunited with her.
-She's been pretty clear that she is not interested in a relationship with me right now.
-she's already rejected me recently

Wishful thinking;
-my heart maintains the very strong feeling that she and I will be together again someday
-Nothing feels more certain than she and I being reunited

Daydreaming bordering on illusion
-Our future reunion feels like the greatest, most profound Truth of my life.
-I know in my heart of hearts that she and I will be together again in a beautiful love relationship.

Get on with your life. If it's meant to be, it will happen. Maybe she doesn't like the needy aspect of your relationship, and is giving you space to get clear on that. Because you are exhibiting all the traits of a very needy partner -- you broke up three years ago -- and nobody likes a needy partner. They're suffocating.
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Old 06-06-2017, 08:49 AM
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I'm at a tough spot in my life. It seems that everything I was ever taught about life was a lie. All of it. Career, love, marriage, happiness....it was all a lie. I'm not sure what to believe now.

Take my Twin Flame. Meeting her was the most powerful experience I've ever had. We broke up three years ago, and my heart maintains the very strong feeling that she and I will be together again someday. Nothing feels more certain than she and I being reunited. Our future reunion feels like the greatest, most profound Truth of my life. It is the deepest desire of my heart to be reunited with her. I know in my heart of hearts that she and I will be together again in a beautiful love relationship.

Unfortunately, the facts and evidence in front of me don't support this feeling of my heart. She's been pretty clear that she is not interested in a relationship with me right now. She lives in a different state and there are some barriers to us getting together again.

So which is the truth? Is it truth of my heart, which is the very strong feeling I have that she and I will be together again someday? Or is it the truth of the evidence in front of me, which is that she is either unable or willing (or both) to get back together with me in a beautiful love relationship?

How do I find the truth? Do I follow the truth that is in my heart, or do I follow the truth in the apparent evidence in front of me?

And if my heart is wrong and I should follow the evidence, how do I make sense of the fact that my heart was so horribly wrong about something that felt more true and certain than anything else I've experienced?

I cried reading this, as I feel exactly the same about my TF, we can't be together either.

Like you I have questioned many things, but I have come to find no matter how much your heart want's someone ( and know don't ever think of it as being horribly wrong ), sometimes you have to let go of the people you love.

I live in hope one day our TF's will be reunited or we will somehow find our way back to each other.
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Old 06-06-2017, 09:16 AM
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Truth:
-We broke up three years ago
-It is the deepest desire of my heart to be reunited with her.
-She's been pretty clear that she is not interested in a relationship with me right now.
-she's already rejected me recently

Wishful thinking;
-my heart maintains the very strong feeling that she and I will be together again someday
-Nothing feels more certain than she and I being reunited

Daydreaming bordering on illusion
-Our future reunion feels like the greatest, most profound Truth of my life.
-I know in my heart of hearts that she and I will be together again in a beautiful love relationship.

Get on with your life. If it's meant to be, it will happen. Maybe she doesn't like the needy aspect of your relationship, and is giving you space to get clear on that. Because you are exhibiting all the traits of a very needy partner -- you broke up three years ago -- and nobody likes a needy partner. They're suffocating.
This ^^^^
However difficult it may seem, get over it and get on with your life.
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Old 06-06-2017, 09:32 AM
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However difficult it may seem, get over it and get on with your life.
True, it's difficult, but go to any relationship counselor and they'll say the same thing. We have two choices: live in what was or what one wishes could be (unhealthy), or live in the now of what is (healthy). Again, any counselor will tell one the same thing.
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