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Old 19-07-2011, 11:28 AM
mattie
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Negative Spirits Or Just Our Imagination

Sometimes people have encounters w/ negative beings. It is often a question for them or others as to whether this is an overactive imagination or a real spirit.

This can often be complicated by these encounters being while asleep, so it is often easily dismissed as just a dream by the person having the experience or those that they might tell about it. When we are asleep we enter the theta brain wave state twice. Once is while falling asleep. We can easily connect w/ other dimensions (Ds) when in theta. Theta experiences can have a very real quality that is different from mere dreams.

Organized religion has tried to convince people for 1000s of years that negative spirits were more powerful that us w/ us having no ability to deal w/ them. This is part of their continual disinformation about our being powerless. Other parts of the humans are powerless theme include our being inherently flawed (sinners), only spiritually empty vessels able to hold the religion’s deity’s goodness, needing a higher deity’s grace for salvation, & not being competent to manage our journey or accomplish our own direct spiritual connection w/ the highest energies (God or the Universe.) All of these are 100% disinformation.

The 4D jokers are the most troubled spirits that aren’t interested in continuing their spiritual/energetic journey when their physical body dies. They are a very small percentage of souls/spirits. Most are delighted to continue their journey. The lowest subplane of 4D is what organized religion calls hell, but this isn’t the permanent place of hellfire & damnation they describe, but a holding plane where these beings aren’t tortured by others. These troubled souls have an abundance of help to help them that they ignore, so don’t feel sorry for them or feel that you should attempt to help them. They will only waste your time. Nonattachment is appropriate. They are in charge of their journey just like we are & whenever they want to continue their spiritual journey they can.

These stalled 4D jokers are low energy beings that are energetic parasites that thrive on low frequency energy or distracting or giving flawed information to those who are unsuspecting. They have allot of time on their hands & delight in jerking around unsuspecting humans who may think that all nonphysical beings are benevolent or don’t know that negative beings are NOT more powerful than us. The trickster energy is low frequency even when they are impersonating an enlightened being. They can be ugly & demonic, needy, pathetic & helpless, or angelic & seemingly wise. They will be WHATEVER they think a person will respond to & let down their guard about to allow them access. There is NOTHING TO BE GAINED by allowing these low energy jokers access to our energies.

Willingly communing w/ them defiles our energies. Expecting that they might have something profound to offer is like donning a blindfold for a taste test of the finest wine only to realize what one has just swallowed is obviously gross swill, definitely NOT fine wine, then ripping off the blindfold to the roaring laughter of a whole group of low lifes having quite the hoot at how we just willingly drank the glass they filled from a dirty toilet. Then adding insult to injury, feasting on the resulting emotions of anger & embarrassment that expectedly ensue from us. There are many on planet Earth that are of a vastly higher frequency than this group of 4D jokers.

There stalled 4D jokers thrive on low frequency energies. They love to scare & trick us, & are more than happy to fulfill our image of powerful demons. They are devious & get a charge out of tricking us into thinking they are wise beings. Allot of the flawed channels that are fear based are generated by these 4D jokers who say they are Archangel or Ascended Master abc-xyz. This caution does not mean that all channels’ messages are bogus though or that all who are AAs or AMs are inauthentic, just that discernment is advisable to use at all times. The channeled information that is inauthentic does not discredit that which is. It just means we have to sift through it.

Discernment- http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...ad.php?t=12105

▲▲▲ It really doesn’t matter if a person is encountering a real 4D joker or has an over active imagination in how they handle this. ▲▲▲ When we believe that we are being visited by or that sharing our energies are being occupied by a negative spirit we create a VERY REAL entity for our self. We make it real. It is very likely that even if it is just an overactive imagination to begin w/, that the stalled 4D jokers will move in quickly to accommodate what we have scripted for our self. At this point it is more than just an overactive imagination.

The solution for this is not to ignore the person or try to dismiss what they are perceiving as an overactive imagination or mere dream, but to give them the tools to move out of disempowerment, fear, & the victim status to having the confidence that many others have successfully dealt w/ the same issues, encouraging them to take action, moving into empowerment, & leaving fear far behind. Even if it is in the preliminary stage of just being an overactive imagination this will solve the problem as it gives them confidence to deal w/ it. Keep in mind that they have created a very real energy for them. By noting that this can be an overactive imagination DOES NOT in any way mean that all encounters w/ stalled 4D jokers begin this way though. An overactive imagination is likely the minority of these encounters.

Everyone can easily deal w/ stalled 4D jokers (demons, negative spirits) by vetting them & giving them a command to scram. It doesn’t take any special training or being at a particular consciousness level to do this. One of any religion or belief system about spirituality (or no belief system) can do this.

When we shine our light on the 4D jokers it is just like when earthly punks are doing an illegal deal at night & the cops drive up w/ a spotlight. They scatter VERY quickly. When we move into quizzing them about who they are we raise our frequency substantially waaaay past the state of being in fear. This alone is usually more than enough to clear out any 4D jokers. If needed, we can tell them to scram & never return. They have to comply.

If there is any resistance AT ALL from the being about being quizzed or they question us instead immediately confirming that they are OF the light, IN the light, & working for Best Highest Purpose such as if they are impersonating an Archangel & they ask, You don’t think I’m an AA?, without ANY hesitation tell them to scram immediately. Any benevolent being will answer w/o hesitation & be delighted that you are energetically savvy enough to know to ask this. The stalled 4D jokers won’t stick around when we raise our frequency as this is unpalatable to them, actually a bit toxic. Once people KNOW they have nothing to fear & can command these jokers to scram they are seldom bothered by them again.

Vetting Nonphysical Entities- http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...d=1#post156097

With ETs it is useful to add to the vetting, ‘& only those who support human free will & aren’t interested in appropriating the physical or nonphysical resources of this planet or its people.’ By adding this I’m not meaning to imply in any way that ALL ETs are not OK.

Two examples of people who used this vetting:

A young well-meaning empathetic man posted that he was having repeat dreams of an attractive young woman who was in need. He earnestly wanted to know what to do to help her. I was suspect that she was a stalled 4D joker as nonphysical beings have an extensive experienced spiritual team, just as we do, who are available for them 24/7. I suggested that he use the vetting instructions.

When she reappeared in the next dream he vetted her. She instantly disappeared, replaced by the archetypical image of God, a stern older man w/ flowing white hair, beard & robes. Although this startled him w/ God appearing suddenly in his dream he again vetted this image which disappeared in a huff. The young man was still a bit shaken when he posted the results.

A very energetically sensitive young woman reported that she has always had a cadre of spirits that surrounded her at all times. She saw them easily when awake. They were friendly. I was suspect that these weren’t her bona fide spiritual team (guardian angels, guides) as they sounded like they were crowding her space more than our real spiritual team would. Our genuine spiritual team is VERY respectful of our space, doesn’t crowd us energetically at all. Although she didn’t report this it is worth mentioning that our spiritual team would NEVER try to violate our personal energy field (aura) unless we asked them to conjoin our energies. They are always on call 24/7, but at an appropriate distance as they want us to grow into managing our journey by our self.

Although the young woman had never felt threatened by her cadre of spirits she still vetted them. She soon posted that there was quite the ruckus when she vetted them as they had gotten used to being predatory hanger-ons to her energies. She was delighted & liked the clearer view. With this person she would have known they were negative if they caused any trouble, so they played nice until they were vetted.

In another case where I have no idea if she ever used the vetting instructions a woman was contacted by a (supposedly) dead friend repeatedly. The 4D joker was nice for first 3 times to get her firmly on the hook. Then she was told to give a message to another friend who, wisely would have nothing to do w/ it. When she posted she was upset that the friend wasn’t allowing her to deliver the message, frustrated about how to get through to him. The next contact w/ the supposed friend was one where the 4D joker thoroughly & brutally excoriated her, criticizing her in many hateful ways. She was still in tears about this & VERY confused about how her beloved friend could turn on her like this. I told her I seriously doubted this was the deceased friend & suggested she use the vetting instructions. The 4D joker took the time (they have plenty of it) to establish contact w/ her, convincing her they were the friend, having her prove the was believing them by following their instructions, trying to contact the friend, then lowering the boom on her to get a bumper crop of the low energy emotions they delight to feast on.

When we are in fear we put out vibes that are easily recognizable by the 4D jokers. They aren’t powerful, but they are adept in the nonphysical territory because they have been in it a long time. These fear vibes are like putting out a flashing neon diner sign, FREE LUNCH- AS MUCH AS YOU CAN EAT. We can cut off their free lunch by moving out of fear.

Fear Deconstructed- http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...009#post156009
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