Question on noahs ark

Ahhh lynn, that was my main point. Even if there were 7 of some and 9 of others, there wouldnt be enough genetic make up to make the species varied enough to survive. Not to mention the actual "line" of a species survival, is numbered in the tens or hundreds of thousands NOT 2. I touched on this in an earlier post.

God, will have no real human charisteristics as well. God created everything, and that would mean that everything would have to exsist in him to begin with. That would mean that god would have aspects of eveything int he entire universe. We know that humans are a very very very small fraction of a percent of matter and life in exsitance, and the odds are there is other life on other planets. We choose to give god human qualities so we can better understand it, and blame it ( and satan) for bad things....

We also tend to forget that the bible wasnt written by god. Or even written down at the times that are mentioned. They are AL written decades or centruies after the original evens apperantly took place. This means most of it is written down from memory. By MAN. Even if you belive that god doesnt make mistakes, humans definelty do.

The bible isnt meant to be taken literal. And even at that, noahs story isnt even an israli event. Tis taken outright from the epic of gilgamesh, in babylon, and it was very very very old before the OT/torah picked it up.

There is also some evidence that jesus, is just a collaberation of many other solar diety/other dieties, from around the known world at the time. Im not talking about blatently ripping them off. For example most people say " jesus is horus witha different name..", no, he isnt, but there are SOME aspects they share, the same with dinysus and mithera, a very small amoutn of krishna...... Its becasue ALL of these civs went through isreal int heir trade routes. They picked up most of the NT form other cultures that evolved into what we kow as christianity.catholic faiths.

Also, the beginning of the story of moses ( placed in a basket found by royalty etc,) is one of the storied taken outright, from once again the babylonians/assyrians/mesepotamians. Its the legend of the king of sargon.

The bible is a great tool to learn about how jews seen life at that point. It has some great stories repeated throughout history.

The bible, and the concept of god, was just a way of the jews seperating themselves fromt he rest of the polytheistic world. And you can see how much it caught on, when we see SOO many non canonial books pop up ( apocrypha, dead seas scrolls, gnostic books etc...).

So I think we have to ask ourselves a question:

Why are we, non jewish people worshiping a jewish god, that is only universal becasue of a political move? That is the ONLY reason christianity/catholic faiths are spread, because rome spread it to the nations that spread it accross the world.... And it was only made law, so that the fighting bewtween them and the pagan traditionalists would stop. That is it.

[theophilus]

Originally Posted by Lynn

That can acutally be a constructive point of view. We know that from our very make up and that of other animals we share the Earth with we are not able to keep producing in the same line. The very DNA we are breaks down. So if there were but TWO of everything then there would not be enough genetic material maybe to even make one copy.

What if those two were genetically perfect and the process of dna breakdown hadn't started yet?

The idea of incest would come to be much much later in history I would say as we leanred about the make up of us and animals.

The reason incest is harmful now is because of the increased risk that the offspring will inherit the same harmful dna from both parents. This risk didn't exist in the beginning so there was no reason to prohibit incest.

[theophilus]

Originally Posted by Time

God, will have no real human charisteristics as well. God created everything, and that would mean that everything would have to exsist in him to begin with. That would mean that god would have aspects of eveything int he entire universe.

What is the source of your information about God?

The bible isnt meant to be taken literal. And even at that, noahs story isnt even an israli event. Tis taken outright from the epic of gilgamesh, in babylon, and it was very very very old before the OT/torah picked it up.

Have you any evidence to support this? The fact that the story of Noah resembles that of Gilgamesh doesn't prove that that was its source. If the flood actually happened we would expect all cultures to retain some knowledge of it and that is in fact the case. Every culture and mythology includes an account of a worldwide flood. Where did they get the idea if the flood never took place?

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n2/flood-legends

[Lynn]

Originally Posted by theophilus

What if those two were genetically perfect and the process of dna breakdown hadn't started yet?

The reason incest is harmful now is because of the increased risk that the offspring will inherit the same harmful dna from both parents. This risk didn't exist in the beginning so there was no reason to prohibit incest.

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Anything is possilbe but with what we know now I persoanaly have to wonder. While it is possible that DNA was not originally a factor if there was devine creation. If the saved two or maybe Noah's family (genetically related ) with what we know man to be I can not see it possible we are all from the same related seeds. That leaves only one other possibility that the originals were not the human man we are today.

I feel at times we take the Bible as literal and that is ok on some levels. More I feel its a GUIDE line for man. To show us a in words a path of being possitive in nature and not literal in events that have come to pass. Too there is no way to prove of disprove things. One can embrace the Bible but too remember how many hands have re written and translated the works.

I am one that is open to all possiblilities in life....but the science for now shows to me personally that there is NOT enough DNA material for such to have happened in any creature on the Earth and that it is the makeup we are even from the first one's on Earth. Too whom is to know unless we could go back in time and see. That would be wonderous.


Lynn