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Old 30-01-2012, 04:53 PM
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My take on it is the only thing left after the universe has gone that wasn't there before will be the light of consciousness that God has nurtured from the sentient Beings that evolved out of it.

As He said: Let there be light...

So 'He' was there prior to light?
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Old 30-01-2012, 04:58 PM
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So 'He' was there prior to light?

I don't believe in a personal God, but I do believe in a Higher Power....

Whatever that is.

...but I find that biblical sentiment cosmically authentic.
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Old 30-01-2012, 05:39 PM
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So 'He' was there prior to light?
Hi Gem: 'He', as in whatever one chooses to believe 'he' is, but your point is naturally rational.. when a star implodes and runs out of fuel, it goes dark and its 'light' fades.. 'consciousness', however it is understood, is resident in light and dark, it is the source of Light.. it chooses to create light, or not.. and the darkness is always there, the cradle of existence.. consciousness exists with or without Light, it is the potential for light..

"Darkness within darkness, the gateway of all things marvelous".. Tao Te Ching, Chapter One..

Be well..
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Old 30-01-2012, 06:06 PM
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I don't think I've ever been afraid of the dark.
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Old 30-01-2012, 06:11 PM
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Greetings..


Hi Gem: 'He', as in whatever one chooses to believe 'he' is, but your point is naturally rational.. when a star implodes and runs out of fuel, it goes dark and its 'light' fades.. 'consciousness', however it is understood, is resident in light and dark, it is the source of Light.. it chooses to create light, or not.. and the darkness is always there, the cradle of existence.. consciousness exists with or without Light, it is the potential for light..

"Darkness within darkness, the gateway of all things marvelous".. Tao Te Ching, Chapter One..

Be well..
So when one says 'something comes out of nothing' that makes nothing the source?

Tzu makes the point one may see the universe however one wishes - the question is, is it dark, or is it light.
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Old 30-01-2012, 06:14 PM
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If you've ever heard of the term smoke and mirrors, the light is in collusion in order to create the deceptive appearance. We cannot see the illusion without it (light). Does that make light evil? No more than dark is evil...
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Old 30-01-2012, 06:15 PM
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So when one says 'something comes out of nothing' that makes nothing the source?

Tzu makes the point one may see the universe however one wishes - the question is, it is dark, or is it light.
well, if everythings contained in it, it's both light and dark. However, like everything else it's how you choose to perceive and experience it
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Old 30-01-2012, 06:21 PM
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If you've ever heard of the term smoke and mirrors, the light is in collusion in order to create the deceptive appearance. We cannot see the illusion without it (light). Does that make light evil? No more than dark is evil...
Tzu has made the point repeatedly that dark is the source and the basis.

Okay, that's how he sees it.
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Old 30-01-2012, 06:22 PM
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well, if everythings contained in it, it's both light and dark. However, like everything else it's how you choose to perceive and experience it
I've never said otherwise.
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Old 30-01-2012, 06:26 PM
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Tzu has made the point repeatedly that dark is the source and the basis.

Okay, that's how he sees it.

You yourself quoted the bible "Let there be light." so, it had to be dark before the light was born, I would think...but none of us know for sure what/how/when/where it all came together ~ if you wanna call this together.
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