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Old 26-04-2012, 09:23 AM
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I'm Sorry Everyone - Here's The Reason I Acted That Way

SORRY EVERYONE PLEASE READ THIS.... I AM EXPLAINING MY SKEPTICISM AND SAYING SORRY - PLEASE READ EVERYTHING BEFORE COMMENTING

As you know I came on these forums with absolute skepticism about astral projection being anything more than an amazing creation/experience within your mind. I wasn't always like this in fact I'll tell you why I am...

Three years ago when I was 15 I joined these forums (all that data was lost) and believed 100% that astral projection was as you believe it is. Before long I met someone called "Tony" who made a thread about an astral meetup in Paris. I didn't know how to astral project at the time so I asked him if he could pull me out of my body while I slept at night and take me there. He agreed but when I woke up the next morning I had no memory of the experience and Tony said that I "blacked out" and lost my memory.

I was skeptical at first but then he told me to search for my lost memories. I recalled two events and when he told me what happened during the astral projection session he also recalled them in order. Ever since that point I had a slight level of trust in Tony however he refused to pull me out again since when he does he is my responsibility and if I die he has to live with it...

2.5 years past and after trying for ages with no results I almost came to the conclusion that astral projection didn't exist because I couldn't achieve it. In October 2011 just before I gave up and lost hope I found another website that had a free eBook (won't list the website/book since it is apparently illegal to do so on these forums) that had techniques to astral project. Instantly I was hooked and devoted my life to trying to achieve astral projection and 19 days later I had my first low lucidity experience followed by a higher lucidity experience after 35 days.

After that point I continued to have more and more experiences and write them down in my own books. Wow was I excited yet before long I realized that the entire community were skeptics and said that astral projection is just you conscious in a world created by your subconscious mind. I was so angry by this that I tried to prove them wrong by performing experiments that proved telepathic connections existed within the astral.

The results were scattered yet I did get some amazing events occurring when I spoke to Tony about everything. He correctly predicted what two different people would see if they looked into themselves because he sensed they had an entity in them. When I started telling all the skeptics on the website I was using about all the "proof" I had received they said that it was all coincidence and that It would be a coincidence if things like this didn't happen at least once... They told me that I was young and immature for believing that astral projection truly took you to another place/dimension/plane. They say that they have outgrown that childish fantasy and are now mature for believing its all in your head.

I was furious and I tried to prove them wrong. I was certain the astral was more than a mind creation and then boom... Tony gives me a prediction of an event that would occur on April 14th 2012. I was beyond excited and was telling everyone on obe4u.com about how I was gonna prove it to them. I continued performing my experiments however they all failed to prove the astral is not a mind creation. That didn't matter to me anymore because I was there to prove them all wrong when Tony's prediction came true.

I started a countdown thread and the skeptics laughed at me and I laughed at them. I made a deal with them... If I can prove to them its all real then they are not allowed to be skeptics anymore... If I couldn't then I promised them I would become a skeptic to. Excitement built up and I was ready to receive the proof and convert a forum of about 300 skeptics to believers. Then suddenly... the event didn't occur. I was shattered and filled with rage... Why believe if I can't get proof.

I was ready to fully believe in them and be a 100% skeptic however I retained a 1% believe due to what I had experienced up to that point. I then posted my free books and ideas (deleted because its illegal to post links to free eBooks here) and wanted to just get an opinion of what everyone thought about my attempts to prove that astral people are not created by your mind. People flipped and got angry at me for treating astral people like my slaves just because I believed they were only in my mind. I even got threatened by a member here telling me that if they met me in the astral they would teach me a lesson... I WAS EXCITED!!!!

PROVE IT! I said in a thread... I was finally going to meet someone here from within the astral plane. Then the threats disappear and everyone goes silent. I took that as a "ok crud he got us now and knows we cant prove it to him because its just in our minds". Then I get an insult on the now deleted post about my books by a member who said I was too immature to process my proof and understand that the astral is not in my head. Remember just earlier on another forum I was told that I was too immature to accept the fact that the astral is just in your head. I was so offended then a few hours later my book post was removed... I took that as a "You're not welcome here because your beliefs don't match ours".

I was furious beyond belief and was about to leave when I thought... I'm acting just like the skeptics did on those forums when I was trying to tell them that the astral was real. They blocked me out and now I blocked you out. I am sorry to the people I may have offended while here but I have been through a lot... It seems that no matter what I believe people think I am immature.... Immature for believing the astral is real and immature for believing its not.

The reason I acted so angry and disbelieving to everyone is because I failed to receive proof on April 14th with a prediction from tony (actually an entity within him called "Phanes" predicted it). Its just that it caused me to be furious since I put so much trust into him and when nothing happened I was shattered and refused to believe him or anyone else. I was even more skeptic when I asked people from these forums to prove it to me and they couldn't.

So instead of leaving, instead of trying to convert you all to skeptics, instead of raging at you... I've decided to say sorry and stay. I'll keep my beliefs away from your discussions however I really hope that someone here can prove it to me... I really find it difficult to believe when there's no proof which is why I have become atheist. Proof comes from experience and I am willing to meet any of you in the astral if your ready to prove to me that its possible.

Do you all forgive me? What else would you like to say? Anyone willing to prove something to me? I'm All Ears :)
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