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Originally Posted by Light Seeker
Natural laws! We would appear to be caught up in those by default.
understanding the self ! Academic really , if one is incorporated into the process anyway.
Occultism then...Secret stuff that dosent really matter except to those who want to feel special themselves.
As far as concepts go, secret knowledge is fundamentally flawed in favour of those who labour under such delusions of grandeur.
From Rosicrucians to Freemasons, The inside information was only ever the outside information.
From The Golden Dawn to the Illuminati... It's all what we have implanted in our genetic memory.
In fact knowing what is what has never been a gift . If anything it is a burden.
I might be wrong though .
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believe you are a bit wrong.
I think you've missed the point. For one thing, all spirituality is occult in that it deals with energies, entities and correspondences that are hidden from those who cannot or will not see.
The other point is about reaching one's deepest mysteries - no use trying to describe the indescribable so words are useless. So hardly capable of academism. Those who've been there know what I mean. In fact I can't think anything
less academic. Understanding one's ontology has plagued academics forever but is the province of philosophers. There is simply no point in trying to "understand self" at these levels because Self
is. Understanding is best directed at all things that allow self to be reached or, as some occultists would see it: the obstacles that stand in the way of revealing Self.
Delusions of grandeur. Sorry, that's nonsense. You clearly know nothing about occult traditions. 1) In former times, people investigating anything not approved by churches were tortured and/or executed. One had to share one's knowledge VERY carefully**. And 2) Some magicians have put a terrific amount of work in their discoveries, formulae, practices - and you simply don't want others stealing your work. That's the way it is.
(**In my spiritual traditions, 200 years ago practitioners when caught would be flayed alive or have their feet chopped off....under the aegis of the Christian church. )
You see, the fallacy in your statement lies in the simple matter that what was once "hidden" (in terms of an occult milieu) is now freely available...if you want to peruse it.
Crowley's Thelema has been published and interpreted.
Israel Regardie's Golden Dawn is available in its entirety.
Michael Bertiaux' Voudon Gnosticism is available almost in its entirety (omitting certain papers that are a danger for the unwary, like you don't give children matches to play with.)
Pete Carroll has approved publication of The Chaoists material.
Austin Spare's ZOS material is all available but most people find it difficult.
The latter 4 examples haven't been widely interpreted and this is why they're still "occult". They're there, but you have to find them, and you have to discover what they're about and how they relate to you. Pick and mix, cherry pick, whatever. In some cases, historic material hasn't been published, simply because there's a load of it mostly of historic interest only. It's essence has usually been embodied in more up to date writing.
A burden to you, maybe. To some, the opening of Pandora's Box. To others some interesting and valuable casements....
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