An atheist question

[Busby]

Originally Posted by lemex

This is called logic. Sometimes I don't like the position of the theist or the atheist. Both are different then mine.

I certainly don't agree with some forms of theistic identification and it's logic. Logic is what we see. We probably do such a bad job explaining God, no wonder there are so many atheists and agnostics around but they have valid questions.

Energy and vibrations are known though, god is not. One is merely not denying that part which is known. It's about keeping an open mind. Many time one finds if one softens their position, others do to.

About one year ago there was a Sunday discussion on BBC TV in the series 'The Big Question'. All beliefs were represented as was athieism.

During the discussions a bishop told us all that all children who die young go straight to heaven.

This gave the young lady athiest present the opportunity to say 'let's do all children a favour and kill them now' - the bishop said 'I didn't mean it like that' - and so it is. Confusion reigns.

Let's keep our minds open but our mouths shut if we don't know what we are talking about.

Originally Posted by Premier

I met an atheist, but that person still believe in energy, and vibrations.

He would read book, and read positive stuff to raise his vibrations.

Now I wonder what it's called when a person believe in energy, and believe he's atheist.

I'm an atheist but that's just a label, a box that I tick when someone gives me a form to fill in. Energy is something that everything in the Universe is and quantum mechanics will tell you that. Energy and vibrations don't belong to Spiritual people, it's something that I sense so I know it's there. I don't read books to 'raise my vibrations' because it's not going to happen through packing my head full of knowledge, what does raise my vibrations is being that high-vibrational being as much as I can. But then, how do you define high vibrations? And positive, well that's entirely perspective and very relative.

There's a saying; "God made man, man made religion." Curiously enough God is a part of that man-made religion. If you want to understand God, Spirituality, theists and atheists all you have to understand is people, and add in a touch of history beyond Christianity.

[r6r6]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

But then, how do you define high vibrations? And positive, well that's entirely perspective and very relative.

Oscillations <><><><><><><><><><><

Sine-wave topology /\/\/\/\/\/\/ ~~~~~~~~~

We have the torus which has;

positive shaped space ( ),

flat space ____________

negative shaped space )(

r6

[Baile]

Originally Posted by r6r6r

<><><><><><><><><><>\/\/\/\/\/\/ ~~~~~~~~~

God as a wavelength... this is good, maybe we could all agree on this. At the very least it would free us up to get on with answering real questions about life, rather than theoretical ones about spirit.

[r6r6]

Originally Posted by Baile

God as a wavelength... this is good, maybe we could all agree on this. At the very least it would free us up to get on with answering real questions about life, rather than theoretical ones about spirit.

My texticons spoke only topology of a sine-wave and oscillations in general.

My view of God was laid out clearly message #15.

r6

[Baile]

Originally Posted by r6r6r

My texticons spoke only topology of a sine-wave and oscillations in general.

My view of God was laid out clearly message #15.

I prefer this explanation -- <><><><><><><><><><>\/\/\/\/\/\/ ~~~~~~~~~ -- because you don't go on and on about "I am God" as a perversion (three times), in the exact same way a fundamentalist Christian hammers others about their sins. There is nothing perverted about spirituality, about soul-spirit reality, or the various concepts we each come up with as human beings. If someone believes they're God, so be it. That's not perverted. It's a simple expression of their thoughts. Rather, I would say people who view innocuous human thoughts such as that, as being perverted, have themselves been perverted in their own thought life and spiritual conceptualizing. Religion does that to people. Cults do as well. They pervert peoples' ability to accept that others have their own specific ways of relating to these questions. And so religious people and cult people then judge those people to be perverted in their thinking. Psychology calls that projection. Spiritual understanding calls it fundamentalism.

Originally Posted by r6r6r

Oscillations <><><><><><><><><><><

Sine-wave topology /\/\/\/\/\/\/ ~~~~~~~~~

We have the torus which has;

positive shaped space ( ),

flat space ____________

negative shaped space )(

r6

I was referring to what is mainstream 'high vibrations' rather than scientific ones. According to Schuman the frequency of human consciousness is at 7.83Hz and we're all resonating at the same frequency, otherwise we'd be spectral beings floating around in the Universe rather than being as 'solid' as we appear. And high frequency light (the ultraviolet end of the spectrum) is known as black light. Interesting.

God's frequency is supposedly 938hz so we've a little way to yet.

But yes, I do understand about frequency, vibration, sine waves and the torus. Not to mention torsion fields - they're good for the spin. Good old Fibonacci.

[r6r6]

There are high, medium and low vibrations i.e frequencies of EMRadiation, sonics etc...

With out naming a specific your "high vibrations" is just that, not any specific medium.

EMRadiation is a specific medium of the more generalized set of energy/physical.

r6

Originally Posted by Greenslade

I was referring to what is mainstream 'high vibrations' rather than scientific ones. According to Schuman the frequency of human consciousness is at 7.83Hz and we're all resonating at the same frequency, otherwise we'd be spectral beings floating around in the Universe rather than being as 'solid' as we appear. And high frequency light (the ultraviolet end of the spectrum) is known as black light. Interesting.

God's frequency is supposedly 938hz so we've a little way to yet.

But yes, I do understand about frequency, vibration, sine waves and the torus. Not to mention torsion fields - they're good for the spin. Good old Fibonacci.