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Greetings...
I'm not an expert on Kundalini but I wanted to open a thread where I and others could share our knowledge and experience of it.
Kundalini is a spiritual fire energy that in most people is dormant from birth and lies curled at the root of the body until something - a meditation practice, a soul mate meeting, or some other catalyst - activates it.
The energy then 'wakes up' and begins to move upward through central energy channels called the Sushumna, which is alongside or inside the spinal cord... and Ida and Pingala, which spiral around the sushumna in a double helix. (Like two serpents, the form of DNA, and the medical symbol, the Caduseus.)
The kundalini flow moves up through each of the chakras in succession until it reaches the crown. This takes place in a number of stages, which vary from one person to another.
When this is going on... usually for a few weeks or months... a person may have a variety of unusual sensations and experiences from time to time, such as the body heating or cooling, vibrations and shaking, stirred up emotions and moods, changes in diet and sleeping habits, rashes or illnesses, dreams and visions, a sense of expanded or deepened awareness, a change of interests, increased or decreased sexual involvement, and many other signs.
These come with varying degrees of discomfort, and sometimes can be quite frightening. With understanding that this is a valuable part of our spiritual awakening we can handle the energy shifts better and with less fear.
In addition, there are ways we can ease through them... with conscious belly breathing...and with becoming more present and simply accepting whatever is happening, realizing that it's temporary and won't last.
Kundalini awakes and arises as part of our spiritual awakening, and is not very predictable in its effects as each of us is a unique individual configuration of energy and consciousness.
It helps to realize that our higher self is in charge of our awakening and transformation. Gradually we can come to know our higher / true Self directly and intimately, and to trust in that.
Xan
Here's a Kundalini image and article: http://www.crystalinks.com/kundalini.html (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fredir.php%253Flink %253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.spiritualforums. com%25252Fvb%25252Fredir.php%25253Flink%25253Dhttp %2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fwww.spiritualforums.com %2525252Fvb%2525252Fredir.php%2525253Flink%2525253 Dhttp%252525253A%252525252F%252525252Fwww.crystali nks.com%252525252Fkundalini.html)
And another article that's not so technical on Signs and Symptoms of Kundalini: http://www.elcollie.com/st/symptoms.html (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fredir.php%253Flink %253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.spiritualforums. com%25252Fvb%25252Fredir.php%25253Flink%25253Dhttp %2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fwww.elcollie.com%252525 2Fst%2525252Fsymptoms.html)
Here's one about the sushumna, ida and pingala, and down the page... the chakras: http://www.rickrichards.com/chakras/Chakras1b.html (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fredir.php%253Flink %253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.rickrichards.com %25252Fchakras%25252FChakras1b.html)
Xan
relaXman
21-12-2010, 01:53 AM
I think ;
everbody knows this kind of information regarding to koundalina;
this not case ;
the case is ;nobody can awaken kundalina even using some methods;
So What is the best practical method to awaken kundalina ?
relaXman... I think most people don't know much about kundalini at all, and are often surprised and frightened when it spontaneously begins to arise.
In fact, I caution people against 'trying' to awaken kundalini but going for meditation, microcosmic orbit, chakra clearing and possibly gentle sushumna circulating practices to expand and deepen their awareness and energy flows... and let kundalini and other energy activations come along as they will, in right timing.
Xan
Ciqala
21-12-2010, 04:27 AM
I agree, this is a great thread to have, perhaps everyone can compile lots of support for those going through kundalini awakening.
Kundalini in sanskrit means "coiled", and Shakti, is believed to be a goddess, or sometimes portrayed as a serpent, which is coiled up at the base of the spine, during kundalini awakening, Shakti uncoils all the way up the spine.
It lasts for a certain amount of time? That sort of defeats the purpose of awakening. An awakening doesn't die out, once awakened, the goal is to be always awake. Uncomfortable side effects and symptoms may cease, but the energies should be awake forever. A person will be able to easily have kundalini whenever they want, while still sticking to the balance of all chakras. This is why it's probably important to learn to control the kundalini.
"The goal of Tantra is to have the kundalini remain permanently elevated to the topmost psychoenergetic center, which state coincides with liberation. At the beginning, however, the kundalini will tend to return to the cakra at the base of the spine, because the body-mind is not yet adequately prepared. Therefore the practitioner must repeatedly invite the Goddess power to unite with her divine spouse, Shiva, at the top of Mount Kailasa, that is, in the sahasrara-cakra. This will gradually remove the karmic inclination toward identifying with the body-mind rather than Shiva-Shakti as one's ultimate identity. In Kashmiri Tantra, this ever-blissful transcendental identity is called aham ("I") versus the finite ego (ahamkara, "I-maker"), which is driven by the desire to maximize pleasure and minimize pain and yet continuously sows the seeds of suffering."
And once one is truly awakened Fully from Kundalini, they reach the climax of cosmic life. The stage of Nirvikalpa Samadhi, their whole life is changed, and they have a permanent enlightenment, permanent communication, with their higher power, it is said, in the last 150 years of history only two have actually achieved this full awakening. They were Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa and Maharishi Ramana. Both these gentlemen awakened their Kundalini in their lifetime and gained enlightenment and finally salvation, thus they do not have to be reincarnated ever again.
It's not like Kundalini just stops, and by the time it does, you are most likely dead and reunited with the divine.
in progress
21-12-2010, 07:56 AM
http://www.kundalini-gateway.org/threads/
http://biologyofkundalini.com/
http://kundalini-teacher.com/
http://www.kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com/index.html
Thanks in progress. I hoped you would show up and maybe say a few words about your own experience, because I feel you have a clear and balanced view of it.
Xan
Edy31
21-12-2010, 10:57 PM
All the above are great links which I have read in the past months. I'd like to share another one which I find is a good explanation of the kundalini process
swamij.com/kundalini-awakening-1.htm
Edy
Westleigh
21-12-2010, 11:09 PM
I have not had a full kundalini awakening yet, but I have experienced its energy rising during meditation a number of times. The first time it happened it was incredibly powerful and did quite frighten me (I remember that it felt like it was setting light to each of my chakras - every time it reached a new chakra there was this huge powerful whoomph of energy). I also remember that when the energy moved down my arms there was a big whoosh of energy out of my hands, too. But at the point where I began to feel afraid, it died away. I have the impression now that my guides or angels were helping me and calmed its energy when I reacted that way.
My experiences since then have been very gentle and much more healing rather than explosive - it feels very pleasant moving up and down my spine. I can feel it fizzling away at energetic blockages and healing me. I did undergo a lot of changes with all this powerful energy work.
It's some time since I felt it and I don't feel it's quite the right time for my full awakening yet, though I know it will happen and am happy for that to be whenever is appropriate. Thank you for the informative thread. There is so little information out there about such an important and life-changing phenomenon. Alarmingly little, really.
Edy31
21-12-2010, 11:27 PM
How do you know if it is a full blown or partial?
I have been told that I have my K awakened and it is months that I am trying to understand my situation.
I feel all my chakras are opened and the energy rises 24/7 and goes out from the top of my head.
I cannot read, or do much work or it causes a lot of energy to go up and I can feel my third eye pulsating even with my eyes opened.
I have read about the symptoms and I wouldn't say I have all of them, but I guess some of the symptoms, like the body shaking are symptoms of partial awakening.
Hi Xan and everybody,
Thanks for reopening a discussion on Kundalini since the last one got wiped out by the great computer crash of 2009!
I am a student of Sri Vasudeva who speaks and writes of Kundalini and of the great value of this knowledge in our day to day lives - for everybody, not only those actively seeking enlightenment. He believes that Kundalini experiences are the essence of ALL spiritual experiences - and I agree. I transcribed and studied his works for the last decade and my tarot cards are based on his profound teachings. So I am a serious student of Kundalini - both as a researcher of Sri Vasudeva's work and of my own personal Kundalini experience.
I am happy to share whatever knowledge I have with anyone who asks or refer you to his website www.blue-star.org (http://www.blue-star.org) where you'll find lots of workshops online related to Kundalini. He is actually available to answer questions directly as well.
If people understood the real meaning and potential of Kundalini, everyone would be rushing to find out more. It is a highly misunderstood principle.
in progress
22-12-2010, 12:42 AM
maybe say a few words about your own experience
I wonder if people aren't getting tired of hearing it. Lynn had some beautiful things to say about her awakening on the other thread. A nice contrast to mine really. Hers was more heart-centered.
My awakening was pretty boring compared w/ a lot of others you hear about (not complaining! I'm a chicken). I was essentially the same "me" before, during and after. I didn't see God or get a bliss hit. I never felt a freight train shoot up my spine either. I've had spiritual epiphanies (particularly when the energy is up) and lesser bliss hits, feelings of love in ways I hadn't felt before.
I had some dreams about it so I knew I was going to have a kundalini experience but I didn't know when. Predictive dreams about K. are common from what I understand. I had "top down" energy first. My crown opened and I could feel the vibration move down my body. It felt flu-like for the first few days. When the "top down" energy reached my feet I could feel energy start to come in through my feet. Eventually kundalini was triggered.
My chakras weren't opened in order. I saw bluish white light start to glow from my upper body, white light in my head coming out around my eyes, then it coalesced into a ball of white light that shot out of my head in a spiral. In that same moment I heard an electrical crackle and I could see to the left, ahead and through the top of my head simultaneously. I also watched myself as if standing to my right. My entire body vibrated heavily for about an hour after that.
A week later my lower chakras opened. I felt a sensation of liquid flowing down my left side and up the center of my body one night. The next night is was down the other side and up.
For about a month after that the energy was rather chaotic and sometimes a bit tooth rattling but it got easier. I go through cycles of upgrades and breaks. Each upgrade seems to have focuses of attention. The energy has felt quite strong sometimes. It's scared me a bit. It's easy to see why it can cause problems. Sometimes I felt like a high voltage cable barely containing the energy. It feels electrical. That said I don't discourage people from pursuing a kundalini awakening but I'd do it through meditation or yoga etc, not try to force it but allow it to happen.
I feel certain meditation played a major role in my case. I also had an evening of talking to "god" and surrendering, wanting to change me but knowing I needed help doing it. It was that evening I got a knowing things were going to change. Kundalini rose about six months later. Things can change quickly!
How do you know if it is a full blown or partial?
I have been told that I have my K awakened and it is months that I am trying to understand my situation.
I feel all my chakras are opened and the energy rises 24/7 and goes out from the top of my head.
I cannot read, or do much work (I am a web designer) or it causes a lot of energy to go up and I can feel my third eye pulsating even with my eyes opened.
I have read about the symptoms and I wouldn't say I have all of them, but I guess some of the symptoms, like the body shaking are symptoms of partial awakening.
Edy... I think it's safe to say that very few people on the planet have fully developed kundalini. I suspect those who believe their kundalini awakening was "full blown" mean it was very intense and went all through their body and chakras.
In my view, kundalini and our other energy flows evolve gradually over years of time, with the first phases usually the most noticeable and disturbing.
Xan
Thank you, in progress.
Your description is a good example of how unpredictable and variable our kundalini, and other, awakenings can be.
Xan
Edy31
22-12-2010, 09:02 AM
Edy... I think it's safe to say that very few people on the planet have fully developed kundalini. I suspect those who believe their kundalini awakening was "full blown" mean it was very intense and went all through their body and chakras.
In my view, kundalini and our other energy flows evolve gradually over years of time, with the first phases usually the most noticeable and disturbing.
Xan Thanks Xan, that's what I think also.
I want to share also what I did to ground myself.
The first 1.5 months it was impossible for me to ground myself, whatever I did wasn't enough, I was a lot above my head and it was a bit unpleasant. During the nights I had so much energy that I felt like I was levitating. I had some spiritual experiences (and I was very inexperienced) and a couple of those scared me, now that I think of them they weren't bad but you probably know the word "Everybody wants to be spiritual until they start experiencing it"
I decided I needed to do more for grounding, so I went and got myself a black tourmaline pendant. I started wearing this for about 10 min. a day. Never had experiences with crystals, but this one was very powerful. It took my energy down to the bottom of the spine, during the night I felt the energy flowing back up going through my chakras again. In the same time the rapid grounding gave me strong headaches.
After 4-5 days of using it, I felt what I would say as my Earth Star chakra opened. For 2-3 days I had energies going down like crazy, much more rapidly than when they started to go up.
From that day on, I have never had any problem grounding myself. It just happens naturally. When I wake up, the energies go down by itself, I don't have to do anything. It's enough for me to put my feet on the floor.
I hope this helps somebody else too.
I have also read that a lot of people who think have a K awakening, don't. That's why I am not sure what I have :)
Edy
in progress
22-12-2010, 10:07 AM
Moving the physical body is grounding. I don't feel the energies while I'm moving around. There is one exception and that happened early on while the energies were still chaotic. At that time they would respond to my emotional state and what I was reading. They would also get very strong during meditation so I took a break from it for awhile. And they'd get very strong at night when I was trying to sleep but I couldn't take a break from that!
The exception was when I was reading a post about astral planes here. I suddenly had a lot of vibration. I had to drive back to work, had an amrita experience while driving and my vision went crazy at work. I was trying to walk around to relieve the experience but it didn't help that time.
A friend told me later I might have been integrating a truth about what I was reading.
When I am experiencing an energy shift of one kind of another, I find that going for a steady rhythmic walk of at least 20 minutes helps to smooth out and integrate it quickly and easily.
Xan
A practice that may help bring on kundalini awakening, or balance and smooth it after it has begun, is Microcosmic Orbit - http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3682 (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fshowthread.php%253 Ft%253D3682)
Xan
Sleepygrass
23-12-2010, 06:22 AM
My experience with the serpent fire has led me to practice the safeties.
kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com/the-safeties.html
The Safeties
Guidelines for a safe and joyous activation
If you are in process with Kundalini or intend to be please look through these and begin to practice them daily.
Please read the "Safeties" three times on three different occasions so that you can begin to see and feel how they help you find and understand these very qualities with in yourself that you seek. After reading them begin to practice them daily. Find the time sometime in your day or night or both.
As you do these your experiential knowledge base will expand. Please bring the "Locks" into your daily life.
TONGUE UP
This completes the cranial circuit allowing excess energy to bleed down the sides of the neck. Cultivate the position of the tip of the tongue resting on the fleshy mound right behind your upper front teeth. Make this a new habit.
EYES UP
This is the position of looking towards the brow of points, one and a half inches above the bridge of the nose. Most comfortable when the eyes are closed. This will draw or pull the Kundalini upwards.
FINGERS IN POSITION
This is the thumb tip and fore finger tips joined (pressed together) with the other fingers spread out wide. This is a finger lock.
WATER
As the Kundalini rises it will stimulate and activate the kidneys and the adrenal glands. The adrenals and the kidneys can become hot. Really hot and feel as if they are expanding. The adrenals will release amounts of adrenachrome, or the bodies version of speed. This can be very disconcerting, and can help you to fear. So plenty of living water i.e. water that is from a spring or another source that isn't chlorinated or from the tap of a city, but if the city water is what you've got - drink it. Also plenty of watermelon if you can get it as this can be very soothing for the kidneys.
PROGRAMMING (tv, movies, books, music, friends, family, church)
In our culture we are seeing and reading and hearing, from various sources, many negative and fear evoking forms of entertainment, news and communications. This is not helpful when a person is newly activated with the Kundalini. Fear, excessive lust, hateful attitudes, can be quite painful and damaging to the new Kundalyn energies and many unfortunate events can be created by the Kundalini exposed to such energies. So, no scary movies, or books or radio shows unless you want to experience them in real-time with you as the unwitting star. Music that is angry or hateful or hurtful even if the melody is sweet need to be curtailed. Inter familial problems are sometimes hard to dismiss. Try as much as possible to bring love and peace and forgiveness into your daily and nightly life. I know this sounds difficult but just make it a priority and it will be extremely beneficial to you and your Kundalini, setting the best pattern for the energy to follow in its transformation of your life.
FOOD CHOICES
Pay attention to the new tastes and desires your body begins to have. If you have been a vegetarian and you start having an interest in beef. well, try to find some organic beef and eat it, love it and bless the animal that has given the ultimate gift for you. The Kundalini needs what is in that meat in order to advance your activation. It wants and needs that kind of protein, surrender to this. Or if the opposite is true you're a meat eater and the Kundalyn Energies wish for you to become vegetarian - don't hesitate! Find yourself a great organic market or farmers market and make like a rabbit! Really, you will be much happier I promise. This is only for a short time and then it may switch back as your activation progresses into an awakening. The Kundalini will let you know in no uncertain terms.
FORGIVENESS
Emotional blockages are a main cause of pain and instability within the Kundalini awakening process. Issues of grief, guilt, loss, abandonment and fear can and do manifest within the context of the Kundalini as pain. It is also an attachment for energies that feed off of these conditions. Resolving these difficulties after many years or a lifetime of experience is often difficult and seemingly impossible. First you need to develop the intent and then to follow that intention with action. However many years and in many cases lifetimes that a person has been wracked with pain and anguish there is and has been a way towards resolution. It's called forgiveness. Not always towards a perceived assailant or of another person but also for ones own self. Forgiveness is a Divine aspect of love.
RECAPITULATION
Realizing that we are all here on this physical plane to learn and to come into direct contact with others who have qualities different from our own, forgiveness gives us a platform for tolerance, another Divine aspect of love. In the context of the Kundalyn energies, this is a very important practice that must be done daily and with the most sincere and heartfelt expression. It lays the foundation for most if not all of the special gifts and skills that come with an awakening.
Recapitulate all peoples who have done harm to you. All people whom you have harmed. Think back upon your life experiences and for the moment pick out the highlights of hurts that have been inflicted upon you and by you. Now consciously forgive them and you. There may still be Karmic repercussions but this will go a long way towards ameliorating them. So practice this daily and new remembrances will come to mind getting in line for the forgiveness. This requires an honest acknowledgment of activity from both the receiving and of the inflicting aspects of our experiences with others. Honesty towards ones self is another ingredient that must be attained in order for this to work.
Regardless of where the blame is, forgiveness must be reached for and given. Not a small task to be sure but an essential one. As the forgiveness encounters the heavy vibrational construct of the emotional blockage, Divine love is seeped into the matrix causing, in many instances an emotional outburst of relief and release of burden. The blockage is relieved and the Kundalini continues its invigoration throughout the body.
For optimal results this must be done daily and constantly throughout your conscious periods. For example, someone cuts you off on the freeway forgive them as quickly as you condemn them. Do this immediately and it will begin to smooth your condemnations to the point where you will be happy to let them in and wish them well upon their way. Take this in stages and don't force too much upon yourself all at once but keep the intent strong and healthy in your heart and mind. This will have an almost immediate effect in your life passage as well as being an energetic snowplow for the Kundalini. As in most things practice makes it become second nature, so practice. This concept applies to all of your human interactions. Love and forgiveness are the rules.
INNER JOY
When you experience a situation in which you find yourself in very unfamiliar territory the first impulse is to go into fear. I want you to begin to cultivate a memory of when you have been joyous. Exuberantly joyous. I would have you practice this during the day when you experience something frightening. Immediately supplant this reaction with the inner joy, just the memory of it will change your perception and therefore the energy of the situation. Put a "post it" in your car on the dash if that's where these events happen for you or at work somewhere. Or on the refrigerator at home where you can remind yourself of this new reversal that you are incorporating. You can write "I.J." on it just as a reminder. This is to begin a new form of acceptance of different mind states that will help you on the Kundalini path.
TRUST
Trust the process that is happening to you. Know and understand that God is watching everything. Spirit is watching everything. You are safe in the arms of the Divinity as long as you practice the love and forgiveness that are part of what we teach. If you stray into areas of negativity, willfully, and with malice afore thought, well, then that is what you will receive. In real time. So trust the Kundalini. It has your best interests as part of its agenda or you would not have been allowed to activate or even to have known about this.
HONESTY
As you feel the energy work its way within you be honest with yourself about what is happening. Watch out for denial. If you start falling into denial you can miss information the Kundalini is trying to impart to you so be aware of how you are honestly feeling. Watch yourself closely without becoming obsessed. When you feel sensations of a presence or object traveling inside your spine do not chalk it up to a sore back or that last tennis match or the tight clothing. Unless of course it is. Be clear and honest and see if it fits the descriptions of what you have learned here and if you have questions go on the web and ask the seminar chat room or list to clarify it with you. We will be monitoring and responding to any such inquiries.
LOVE
Actively love what is happening. Express this active love by being actively forgiving and interested in being of service to others. Not in a slavish or demeaning way but in a confidant and strength based, loving way. Help that kid or senior citizen or fellow mortal without endangering yourself preferably. This allows the Kundalini to activate your systems much cleaner and more quickly. I know it sounds hokey but love is the strongest quality and just as the negative can turn around and bite so does the love turn around and embrace - even faster!
Love causes the energy to move rapidly and as you practice this quality you will find that negativity just doesn't seem to come your way as much and then almost never. Service to others or for others is an essential practice for the Kundalini of this lineage. Others who have activated without these teachings have and are suffering terribly and my heart goes out to them. They will learn though in their own good or bad time. They will learn what you are learning right now. This is one of the best safeties you can practice because as I mentioned before you are being observed, really, and those who are observing will not allow you, who are a part, now, of their lineage to be harmed for the practice of love. A protection has been placed around you for the purpose of giving you the opportunity to take this evolutionary step called the Kundalini. As you practice, communications and assurances will be given by this source to help you on the path. Remember your “thank you’s”.
GRATITUDE
Be grateful for the ideas and thoughts and wisdoms that begin to flow into your mind sometimes like a flood. Be grateful for the Kundalini as it is bringing you to a new and greater understanding of the "All that is ". Be grateful to your family and friends and perfect strangers for what they bring to your life and the opportunities that come your way. Say to yourself in your mind and heart that you are grateful for these gifts and even greater ones will come your way. This is the nature of the path you are walking. Diligence and integrity are richly rewarded.
PRAYER
This can be one of the more difficult of the safeties to practice. Especially if you were not raised in an environment respectful or embracing of prayer - like myself. There are many misconceptions about it but I won't go into those here. I will only say that it is very important and must be practiced. Christ is real, Mary is real, Yahweh, Buddha, Allah, Zeus, Cybele, to name a few. All of them are real. And yes, I know this is a "real" stretch for some of you and it was for me too. However we feel about this culturally this is just how it is behind the veil. I'm not saying to pray to all of them but if you don't already have one - Pick one that you like or pick GOD and pray. Pray for healing for a friend or a stranger or a family member. Pray for yourself. Pray for the Kundalini to take you where it is you want to go or to become what it is you want to be. These folks can be very, very helpful. Do not disregard this because you are unaccustomed to it. Stretch yourself and make this a part of your practice.
MOVEMENT
Dance or do Tai Chi or Yoga. These activities nurture the energy in your body, filling the cells and stretching the muscles. Actively practice hands on healing, volunteer, be active, and move! Play or walk but do not sit and be a couch potato. That can lead to a stagnant energy response, and you don't want that - trust me.
SINGLE NOSTRIL BREATHING
If you get to hot place your thumb or finger over your right nostril and breathe through the left continuously and with medium force. This activates the Lunar channel (Ida) and will immediately cool your heat. If you get to cold cover your left nostril breath in a similar fashion and you will warm up. This activating your Solar channel (Pingala).
COMPRESSION PRAYER/ALTERNATE NOSTRIL BREATHING
Breathe in through he left nostril with right nostril covered or blocked Breathe in with the mantra for example "The love of Christ" or "Krishna" "Buddha" or "Allah" or "I am one with the all that I am" Find one that works for you but do not leave out a recognition of God however God is to you.
Use the Law of Trinity. Say the mantra three times upon the intake of the breath through the left nostril. At the top of the breath, Hold and say the mantra three times again. At the beginning of the exhale switch nostrils by covering the left and opening the right and exhaling through the right with the mantra "the love of god" three times, timing the sequence with a "love of God" at the beginning of the exhale and the third one at the end of the exhale. This also applies to the inhales.
Now with the left nostril covered and the right nostril open, inhale with the mantra three times through the right nostril. Hold say to your self the mantra three times and then switch nostrils and cover the right and exhale with the mantra through the left nostril. This equals one cycle. This is called Triangluar breathing.
Looks like this:
(right nostril blocked)
“The love of Christ...... .The love of Christ...... The love of Christ”
(Holding at top of breath)
“The love of Christ...... .The love of Christ...... The love of Christ”
(Switching nostrils and covering left and exhaling out the right)
“The love of God...... .The love of God...... The love of God”
(Keeping the left nostril blocked inhale through the right)
“The love of Christ...... .The love of Christ...... The love of Christ”
(Holding at top of breath) Repeat
“The love of Christ” x 3
(Switching nostrils and exhaling through the left)
“The love of God” x 3
And so forth for 15 cycles to start.
Please begin to eat root vegetables
Carrots, beets, radishes, turnips, jicama, potato's, onions, celery root, garlic, ginseng, ginger.
Plenty of water and watermelon
…to ease the strain on the kidneys.
Juices of the roots are also good.
For the more serious among you who can safely do so, please begin a three day fast -
First day : nothing but water
+ prayer and meditation as much as possible with breaks
Second day : nothing but juices of these roots
+ prayer and meditation as much as possible with breaks
Third day : same
The Practice
Every day or night or both
5 Tibetans
Start slow with no more than 6 repetitions for each Tibetan
Forgiveness's
Recapitulations, Forgiveness of self and others
Gratitude's
For the good and the bad as teachings are acquired with both
Surrendering
Opening completely to the energy with love and joy and the desire to be at one with the kundalini as it is revealed to you
Prayers to the Shakti
Goddess energy and personal deity for awakening
Compression Prayer with alternate nostril breathing
15 cycles no more with tongue up, eyes up and fingers locked
Meditation
Edy31
23-12-2010, 10:15 PM
The Kundalini rising takes a long time to complete, many lifetimes probably.
I don't have much knowledge about the soul and spirit, and I am curious to know, when we die does the Kundalini rising continue, or will it stop until we reincarnate again and of course if we decide to reawaken it in our next reincarnation.
Another question is, the goal is to raise Kundalini all the way and to pierce the Bindu, so that we can be one with the Absolute.
The yogis advise that you need to continue pushing the energy up so that you reach that goal.
The regular person, regular here meaning a person whose path is not meditation, or that has a spontaneous K awakening, he will not try and raise the energy. In the past many people with awakened K, did not know what they had, there was no internet or some other way of knowing, and most times they were considered as schizophrenic.
In these cases K goes back to sleep after some time, it can be days, months or years. Does this person achieve something, or does it depend on how the person defines the experience.
Thanks for any input.
The Kundalini rising takes a long time to complete, many lifetimes probably.
I don't have much knowledge about the soul and spirit, and I am curious to know, when we die does the Kundalini rising continue, or will it stop until we reincarnate again and of course if we decide to reawaken it in our next reincarnation.
Yes you pick up where you left off as soon as something triggers a remembering.
Another question is, the goal is to raise Kundalini all the way and to pierce the Bindu, so that we can be one with the Absolute.
The yogis advise that you need to continue pushing the energy up so that you reach that goal.
The regular person, regular here meaning a person whose path is not meditation, or that has a spontaneous K awakening, he will not try and raise the energy. In the past many people with awakened K, did not know what they had, there was no internet or some other way of knowing, and most times they were considered as schizophrenic.
In these cases K goes back to sleep after some time, it can be days, months or years. Does this person achieve something, or does it depend on how the person defines the experience.
Thanks for any input.
Kundalini is awakened in everybody to SOME degree or we would be dead. When it is awakened in the sushumna, that is when the real spiritual journey begins. The ultimate goal is to become anchored in the crown chakra, not the bindu. At the crown chakra we have a choice - to leave the human body forever and merge into VOID or to stay earthbound and help others.
You don't have to have a goal or even know about Kundalini to reach anywhere. All paths lead to the same place. Kundalini knowledge is about our spiritual anatomy - what goes on behind the scenes.
The Kundalini will go back to sleep if it is not stabilized at the brow chakra. The most powerful charismatic people in the world are at least at the brow. Only a few like Christ attained the crown and came back to tell us about it.
Kundalini is the real you - the power of God, the Divine part of you trying to identify with that which is greater than the small body-mind.
Everyone gets excited about the dramatics of awakenings but the real adventure is in opening up to an entirely new consciousness, an expanded state of being.
Does this answer your questions?
p.s. http://foxtrotters.tripod.com/tree5.gif Bet you didn't know the Christmas tree represents the energy body fully awakened - crown chakra attained and all other chakras operating at 100% efficiency. THAT is the TRUE MEANING of Christmas! Even the Christians don't realize this LOL!
Edy31
23-12-2010, 11:21 PM
Thanks for the reply Uma, appreciated.
Didn't know about the Christmas tree, interesting!
Edy: Another question is, the goal is to raise Kundalini all the way and to pierce the Bindu, so that we can be one with the Absolute. The yogis advise that you need to continue pushing the energy up so that you reach that goal.
Edy... It is not necessary to raise Kundalini first in order to become aware in absolute Oneness. The yogi tradition doesn't always apply, especially in this new time of spiritual awakening through other non-yogic practices... and even spontaneously, by Grace.
Xan
Just to add to what Xan said...trying to force Kundalini energy through yogic practices is unnecessary and also could be DANGEROUS if attempted without proper guidance. In the presence of one who has it awakened, it can arise spontaneously, naturally and perfectly safely, if the desire in recipient is great and their heart is pure and they have been doing things of a devotional nature. It really only becomes unsafe when forced.
The analogy Sri Vasudeva gives is of power transformers that step down the high voltage so that energy enters your home safely so you can switch on lights and things. So too, the energy of the entire universe needs to come through you gradually as your transformers (chakras) open, develop and stabilize. If you tried to make a direct connection without the proper equipment, you'd blow up your house.
If you tried to make a direct connection without the proper equipment, you'd blow up your house.
Or at least feel like it (your body-mind) is on the verge of blowing up.
Xan
Gracey
24-12-2010, 01:53 AM
Edy: Another question is, the goal is to raise Kundalini all the way and to pierce the Bindu, so that we can be one with the Absolute. The yogis advise that you need to continue pushing the energy up so that you reach that goal.
Edy... It is not necessary to raise Kundalini first in order to become aware in absolute Oneness. The yogi tradition doesn't always apply, especially in this new time of spiritual awakening through other non-yogic practices... and even spontaneously, by Grace.
Xan
spontaneous by grace, so it is grace for the reason why this happens with out trying to make it happen. huh.
Gracey
24-12-2010, 01:56 AM
i had my first one when i was five, it was pretty violent, my body levitated up and down after i shook very hard. my poor mom was terrified, the second time it happened i was in my late twenties, that time it was the most relaxing energy i have ever felt. i did not try to do this awakening, it just happened.
my friend was over the other week and we were talking about spiritual stuff and i started to feel a vibration with in me, but i did not shake on the outside, i told her this and she said this is what she feels when the holy spirit is with her. she said she was feeling it right then.
very interesting. one day i look forward to communing with her when the vibration stops and she feels the calm, the stillness of the "holy spirit"
Yup..... Grace...
Of course Grace may also bring us a method to use.
Xan
Gracey
24-12-2010, 01:58 AM
Yup..... Grace...
Of course Grace may also bring us a method to use.
Xan
i dont understand that, what do you mean?
Gracey... For me sometimes there is stillness and sometimes vibration. Grace is not all that predictable.
Xan
Gracey
24-12-2010, 01:59 AM
Gracey... For me sometimes there is stillness and sometimes vibration. Grace is not all that predictable.
Xan
okay, i dont feel any vibrations. to each their own experience. :smile:
Gracey: i dont understand that, what do you mean?
I mean, universal divine presence emanates to us in many ways... sometimes directly through experiences and awareness beyond the mind, and sometimes indirectly by arranging a significant meeting, or bringing us something we can understand or do or practice to open our mind and heart for further awakening.
Xan
Gracey
24-12-2010, 02:02 AM
okay gotcha, thanks.
Edy31
24-12-2010, 02:12 AM
If you don't mind another question :)
I have been experiencing this for almost 4 months now. It's getting better I guess.
I cannot read or work more than 20 min. without taking a break and grounding the energies. I have read some stories that this inability to read has been going on for years for some people.
Do you have any idea about this, what can I do to integrate it a bit more.
Thanks a lot!
i had my first one when i was five, it was pretty violent, my body levitated up and down after i shook very hard. my poor mom was terrified, the second time it happened i was in my late twenties, that time it was the most relaxing energy i have ever felt. i did not try to do this awakening, it just happened.
my friend was over the other week and we were talking about spiritual stuff and i started to feel a vibration with in me, but i did not shake on the outside, i told her this and she said this is what she feels when the holy spirit is with her. she said she was feeling it right then.
very interesting. one day i look forward to communing with her when the vibration stops and she feels the calm, the stillness of the "holy spirit"
Hi Gracey,
The body shakes are usually related to the root chakra - the spiritual centre for grounding (but they can be part of any chakra that is really blocked). I'm guessing that once you became more grounded, the energy could flow higher - so no more shaking. Your experience is interesting also because in TM (Transcendental Meditation) they actually teach levitation and it begins with the body (in meditation posture) jumping or hopping up and down and across the room and eventually levitating. It make me think that perhaps this was a pursuit of yours in a past life (just a guess).
I've heard this type of experience being compared to a garden hose all coiled and sort of knotted up - once you turn the tap on the hose begins to shake like crazy until the water can flow smoothly again. That's the idea. We can learn how to manage experiences like these if they get uncomfortable or are inappropriate in certain surroundings. That's why it's so important to focus on getting the brow chakra opened as it commands all the ones below it. Hence the emphasis in meditation on controlling the mind - one pointedness, watching the breath, repeating a mantra etc...
Uma
If you don't mind another question :)
I have been experiencing this for almost 4 months now. It's getting better I guess.
I cannot read or work more than 20 min. without taking a break and grounding the energies. I have read some stories that this inability to read has been going on for years for some people.
Do you have any idea about this, what can I do to integrate it a bit more.
Thanks a lot!
Maybe you're too much in the mind...too much thinking. Try going for a walk or doing something physical for a change. Or get some sleep.
Gracey
24-12-2010, 02:31 AM
Hi Gracey,
The body shakes are usually related to the root chakra - the spiritual centre for grounding (but they can be part of any chakra that is really blocked). I'm guessing that once you became more grounded, the energy could flow higher - so no more shaking. Your experience is interesting also because in TM (Transcendental Meditation) they actually teach levitation and it begins with the body (in meditation posture) jumping or hopping up and down and across the room and eventually levitating. It make me think that perhaps this was a pursuit of yours in a past life (just a guess).
I've heard this type of experience being compared to a garden hose all coiled and sort of knotted up - once you turn the tap on the hose begins to shake like crazy until the water can flow smoothly again. That's the idea. We can learn how to manage experiences like these if they get uncomfortable or are inappropriate in certain surroundings. That's why it's so important to focus on getting the brow chakra opened as it commands all the ones below it. Hence the emphasis in meditation on controlling the mind - one pointedness, watching the breath, repeating a mantra etc...
Uma
hi uma,
i have heard of the jumping or hopping, mine was not like that, i was laying flat on my back and rising up and down of about 3 or 4 feet. after the shaking and during the levitating, my energy felt calm, but i felt objecitve because i was just five and had no idea what was going on.
If you don't mind another question :)
I have been experiencing this for almost 4 months now. It's getting better I guess.
I cannot read or work more than 20 min. without taking a break and grounding the energies. I have read some stories that this inability to read has been going on for years for some people.
Do you have any idea about this, what can I do to integrate it a bit more.
Thanks a lot!
Edy... I had this inability to read for a while, especially boring stuff. So when I really needed or wanted to I read out loud to myself, which worked well. Otherwise I didn't figure it was important and let it go.
Xan
Edy31
24-12-2010, 02:33 AM
Maybe you're too much in the mind...too much thinking. Try going for a walk or doing something physical for a change. Or get some sleep.
Actually I do regular walks everyday, and I sleep 7-8 hours.
However, as far as I know reading is a way to cope with the energy, so I don't think what I am experiencing is not normal.
Reading is one way to cope with the energy... one which perhaps isn't appropriate for you right now.
With the consciousness and energy shifts of awakening it's best to accept and allow what's happening for you, rather than clinging to old ways and ideas.
Xan
Edy31
24-12-2010, 02:38 AM
Edy... I had this inability to read for a while, especially boring stuff. So when I really needed or wanted to I read out loud to myself, which worked well. Otherwise I didn't figure it was important and let it go.
Xan Thanks Xan,
I guess everything happens when you're ready.
Thanks much for replying to my questions.
in progress
24-12-2010, 07:42 AM
The yogi tradition doesn't always apply, especially in this new time of spiritual awakening
I am SO happy to see someone else make this point!! This is a time of new paradigms, new ways of doing things. The old ways don't always apply anymore so be open to new possibilities.
I even heard someone recently talking about how older ways of energy healing aren't as effective anymore and as the energies increase won't work at all. It's a time for creativity.
OceanWaves19161
24-12-2010, 08:13 PM
Hey guys...just thinking...but do you think perhaps clearings and Kundalini rising is the same thing? Don't know a huge amount about the kundalini process except that I'm mid way through it. I'm beginning to feel though that they are perhaps apart of the same processes?. Every time I got through a clearing for example I get energy shooting through my body, clearing out of blocked chakras etc? What do you think...is their a difference in your opinion or are they the same thing?
Alana:)
Hey guys...just thinking...but do you think perhaps clearings and Kundalini rising is the same thing? Don't know a huge amount about the kundalini process except that I'm mid way through it. I'm beginning to feel though that they are perhaps apart of the same processes?. Every time I got through a clearing for example I get energy shooting through my body, clearing out of blocked chakras etc? What do you think...is their a difference in your opinion or are they the same thing?
Alana:)
Hi Alana,
I know that prana is always working to clear blockages - physical and mental. Kundalini takes that clearing to a much deeper level - the spiritual level. We are evolving all the time in consciousness. The small, selfish and limited ego needs to transform into one that lives in a space of all possibilities, feeling a connectedness with all things. Every time we mature and see life from an entirely new perspective, Kundalini has done its job to free us from some self-limiting beliefs, attachments, or ignorance. This can happen in a dramatic way or almost invisibly. The goal is to continually shift in consciousness to expand the consciousness. Energetic shifts, "clearings," are like the wind before the hurricane - and the eye in the hurricane is the most peaceful space to be in. Think of the entire universe as the hurricane, a hurricane of energy, and try to remain centred in the eye. Then your ego "I" will also be centered. This is what Kundalini tries to do. However She is clearing is a clue as to how we are sabbotaging our own freedom. Kundalini pushes us from the inside and the Guru Principle pulls us from the outside....it's a lot like labouring to deliver a child - and the newborn is the ego about to discover an entirely new identity.
I'm sure Xan will have things to say too but this is my understanding of it.
Hey guys...just thinking...but do you think perhaps clearings and Kundalini rising is the same thing? Don't know a huge amount about the kundalini process except that I'm mid way through it. I'm beginning to feel though that they are perhaps apart of the same processes?. Every time I got through a clearing for example I get energy shooting through my body, clearing out of blocked chakras etc?
What do you think...is their a difference in your opinion or are they the same thing?
Alana:)
Yes, Alana... all aspects of the same thing. The clearing and healing, awareness expanding and deepening, kundalini rising and other energy shifts are all part of the spiritual awakening that is going on in many people these days... gradually coming into be in this world in our true spiritual nature.
I no longer try to identity what exactly is changing in me or how it all works, primarily because I deeply trust the Grace of my true Self to orchestrate it all. My job is simply to be consistent in my spiritual practice... and breathe and allow and do what feels right in any moment.
We in the modern world have a tendency to mentalize... to define and categorize and compare almost continually. There is a need for some understanding, of course, but this sort of habit gets in the way of fully experiencing in each moment... which is what this process is all about.
Xan
OceanWaves19161
26-12-2010, 01:09 AM
Thanks for that. Makes sense. I like knowing how things connect. Also not sure why I'm being told to mention this but what's the difference between the clearing out of each of the chakras and the clearing out of the center which tends to be more closely related to the ego (I psychically see it as an area seperate from the chakras). I didn't realise there was a central holding point for the ego so to speak??
Alana: Also not sure why I'm being told to mention this but what's the difference between the clearing out of each of the chakras and the clearing out of the center which tends to be more closely related to the ego (I psychically see it as an area seperate from the chakras). I didn't realise there was a central holding point for the ego so to speak??
I'm not sure exactly what you're seeing, Alana, but it may be what I call "the Center of the Person". This is not the 'ego', which in my definition is the false conditioned identity, but the natural and original center of the individual Being. It seems to be little recognized so far as I haven't heard or read any other mention of it... till you.
This center is not a chakra and is located between the heart and the solar plexus... between the lower chest and upper stomach area. Is this what you're talking about?
Xan
Thanks for that. Makes sense. I like knowing how things connect. Also not sure why I'm being told to mention this but what's the difference between the clearing out of each of the chakras and the clearing out of the center which tends to be more closely related to the ego (I psychically see it as an area seperate from the chakras). I didn't realise there was a central holding point for the ego so to speak??
Alana,
The whole energy body (soul) is related to ego (ego means that which identifies, that which is an "I" for example, "I am mind, I am body, I am memories, I am spirit...and I am") but the brow chakra is the seat of the ego's power which is mind and intellect. When it is powerfully connected with the crown, the consciousness becomes "I am" and the "I" expands into a collective "we." But the ego manifests in each and every chakra. It (I, you, we) keeps expropriating an identity for itself depending on whatever it (I, you, we) is attached to. In the final enlightened state, the ego is completely surrendered and the consciousness becomes "I am nothing, I know nothing, I own nothing," which informs its behaviour in the world as a completely selfless being.
I'm curious what you are seeing psychically although I have a suspicion what it might be...
Uma
Lightspirit
26-12-2010, 11:07 PM
I have been getting odd vibrations and sensory experiences with energy for months now still cant explain it. I thought it was that third eye thing. It seems there may be another name too now, man this gets so confusing.
Au... It's a good idea to check out the websites that in progress and Uma and I gave in the posts back on pages 1 & 2 of this thread. Understanding can help the odd experiences not seem quite so weird.
Xan
Lightspirit
27-12-2010, 05:01 AM
Au... It's a good idea to check out the websites that in progress and Uma and I gave in the posts back on pages 1 & 2 of this thread. Understanding can help the odd experiences not seem quite so weird.
Xan
sure thing its the weird vibrations and feeling energy all around me that i still search for answers to
Lightspirit
27-12-2010, 05:13 AM
Au... It's a good idea to check out the websites that in progress and Uma and I gave in the posts back on pages 1 & 2 of this thread. Understanding can help the odd experiences not seem quite so weird.
Xan
i picked out some things from your second link i could relate to over the last 6 months-
Intensified or diminished sexual desires
Headaches, pressures within the skull
Psychic experiences: extrasensory perception; out-of-body experiences; pastlife memories; astral travel; direct awareness of auras and chakras; dreams or visions; healing powers
Hearing an inner sound or sounds, classically described as a flute, drum, waterfall, birds singing, bees buzzing but which may also sound like roaring, whooshing, or thunderous noises or like ringing in the ears.
Energy rushes or immense electricity circulating the body
Mental confusion; difficulty concentrating
Altered states of consciousness: heightened awareness; spontaneous trance states; mystical experiences (if the individual's prior belief system is too threatened by these, they can lead to bouts of psychosis or self-grandiosity)
Itching, vibrating, prickling, tingling, stinging or crawling sensations
I spent a lot of time at the doctors over the last 6 months with queries about those things.
i had been blaming that third eye chakra for everything as it seemed tied in somehow.
Grr they had no idea and nor did I what its all about. Just that I am medically ok. - and poorer from all the tests.
Edy31
27-12-2010, 10:40 AM
Au, I am not very much experienced with this, but I'd like to share what helped me.
When I was walking in crowded places, or when I was in a cafe, in the beginning I would get like a boost of energies that made me feel sick. I stayed away from crowded places for a while.
Keeping a good diet is very important. More meet helps a lot with grounding, if you are a vegetarian more root vegetables help. When I had a lot of energy I ate a cheeseburger and that would do it for that night. Not often though, I don't like fast food :)
Pay attention to what causes the energies go crazy. I used to love a carrot cake, but two times that I ate it my energies went crazy. I also switched to decaf, and almost stopped eating sweets for a while.
Jogging also was not good for me. I found yogurt helps a lot with reducing the heat and with grounding as well. Diary foods are great generally.
Spending time with myself, just being, doing nothing looked like it helped. Going out for walks in nature is very important.
What works for some, does not work for others, and everybody's experiences are different, so you must make your own experiments.
Edy
in progress
27-12-2010, 12:07 PM
I love that!! Energy going crazy when eating carrot cake! I never responded like that to food after kundalini.
The only times I recall the energies responding excitedly to something was right before and right after kundalini. It was to meditation, trying to sleep (and I didn't get much for awhile!), things I read and once to a book I picked up. I picked up the book, energy got excited, put it down, energy calmed. Picked it up again, energy went nuts again! That was kind of fun. The book was "Undoing Yourself with Energized Meditation" by Christopher Hyatt.
I knew someone who responded to color energetically which influenced the color of the clothing she wore.
Anyway, the crazy energy responses lasted less than a week or two and the chaotic energy flow lasted about a month for me after kundalini awakening. This was also the time a few people (strangers) responded to me as if we were long lost friends, waving at me vigorously w/ big smiles! That was both a little bewildering and fun.
I totally agree w/ Edy, anything that keeps the physical body busy will help. All I have to do is get up and start walking. That works immediately for me though I don't seem to need it anymore. Digesting heavy foods keeps the body busy too. Nature helps, touching rocks or trees, going barefoot, etc.
Lightworker, your symptoms remind me of some of mine before kundalini awakening. Eventually the uncomfortable parts will subside.
Edy31
27-12-2010, 12:35 PM
in_progress, I too believe that what we read has effects on the energy. When my spiritual awakening happened, I was reading the book 'Autobiography of a Yogi' by Paramahansa Yogananda, I still haven't finished it, because every time I pick it up the energies are felt a bit more.
I think in general, whenever you think of Kundalini you will feel it flowing, just an impression I have.
When my energy is really fired up, I feel it like I have a spear inserted along in my spine, that goes out from the top of my head, that has happened 4-5 times and lasted about 30 min.
I'm just thinking about energy shake ups in general not necessarilly having to do with our own Kundalini experiences per say but opening up to energies from our surroundings, becoming more energy sensitive and more vulnerable to absorbing other stuff that isn't really our stuff...
I recall a time when I was trying to meditate with a friend whose presence is normally very uplifting. We were sitting very close by and I just couldn't meditate. My being was full of disturbances and it was driving me crazy. Then the thought came to me that it might be her stuff influencing me so I moved away some distance and voila - I was able to go into my centre.
Later as we talked I found out that she was going through a period of mental-emotional turmoil...so no wonder.
p.s. If it is just prana doing its thing there will be no transformation in consciousness. If it is a true Kundalini experience, you will feel changed, your perception of the world will change and you will behave differently than you did before. That consciousness never goes away, although the energy will subside (because by then it will have done its work). Consciousness shifts gradually. It doesn't mean you're suddenly enlightened, only more enlightened than you were before.
p.p.s. I thought of an analogy for this which makes sense to me. "Ordinary" energy shakeups are like when our physical bodies get sick and all the white cells come to the rescue and then we have all kinds of symptoms as the body tries to intelligently and energetically shakes itself free of the offending virus or bacteria. "Transformative" energy shakeups are like the big transformational changes in the body, hormone changes such as in puberty, pregnancy, aging and death. There is always a transitional period which involves energy and it is always followed by a period of peace.
Lightspirit
27-12-2010, 09:54 PM
walking is the thing that makes my energies flow, walking in the sunshine does it. even now months later not much has changed except the night time freaky dreams have stopped unless I allow myself to go to that place with stars and visions.
son as I walk i feel everything around me more with my hands. because my fingers feel my legs passing through , I often walkk now with my hands away from where the path of it is because it is annoyingI think in general, whenever you think of Kundalini you will feel it flowing, just an impression I have.
@ eddy31-When my energy is really fired up, I feel it like I have a spear inserted along in my spine, that goes out from the top of my head, that has happened 4-5 times and lasted about 30 min.
i get something like that too its like a wave ripple thing that goes up and down my body usually in meditation. maybe it is something else not Kundalini
Great discussion on this thread! Thank you all.
Hearing an inner sound or sounds, classically described as a flute, drum, waterfall, birds singing, bees buzzing but which may also sound like roaring, whooshing, or thunderous noises or like ringing in the ears.
Here's more about this Inner Sound Current: - http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3703 (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D3703)
Xan
dreambot
29-12-2010, 03:40 PM
"When I was walking in crowded places, or when I was in a cafe, in the beginning I would get like a boost of energies that made me feel sick. I stayed away from crowded places for a while." - quote
I've got this problem too. I find the energies of people in crowded places at first OK - but very soon I detect a lot of intensity which feels 'chaotic' and makes me want to get the hell out and just be alone in my room to recover...I was walking through a supermarket and felt 'oh my god..everyone's energy is ugly!'
By ugly I meant that I could detect all the minor stresses, blockages, Intents and so on. I usually feel the worst when I've just come out of my meditation and I am very calm & peaceful and then go into a crowded place!
But anyway this is a topic about kundalini awakening and I THINK I have had some symptoms of awakening. Since I wrote them down I will paste it here to see what other people think about it:
The first opening:
I am writing this from memory, as it happened over 5 months ago.
The first major energy opening was felt while focusing on the lower spine during tai chi practice.
It felt like an explosion of energy, and an upwards waterfall of flowing qi. The pleasure was so great, that my mouth was pulled into a smile, the sensation was better than drugs and quite remarkable.
It felt like the lower part of my spine (only the lower part) had it's energy channels become 3 times wider...and a lot more qi was flowing through a lot faster.
An amazing experience, which lasted till the next day, upon which I felt normal again (but with a permanent upgrade of qi I think).
It is worth noting that this opening was opposite the first tan-tien (energy centre in the lower abdomen)
The second opening:
This second opening occurred 5 months after the first opening, after I did my small universe meditation (this is also the same as the microcosmic orbit) and my circle walking.
I had just done the small universe, and felt lovely and calm inside, with good energy flowing, and heat felt in the lower spine and in the internal organs. After this I went to do 30 minutes of circle walking, by which point it was 6 am in the morning and still dark.
When doing the circle walking I noticed large increases in qi, my lower spine became very hot, which was the first time I experienced that from circle walking (prior to this I had usually only felt the hands and feet heat up).
After the lower spine getting very hot, the heat rose, and made the middle of the spine very hot...this place was opposite the heart chakra, the second tan-tien (energy centre).
After the circle walking was complete, I began to get an intense burst of energy in the upper spine, which could be described as a glowing white star, about the diameter of a penny. This star was vibrating white light very fast, and was a lot hotter than my previous qi. I called it 'a new type of qi.' Because it felt hotter, more concentrated and higher vibrations than the normal qi I get.
For a qi comparison, the first qi I normally get feels like a misty clump of warm gas about the size of a fist, it floats inside where my mind focuses. This second type of qi from the upper spine was like an intensely hot, small ball of white light, which radiated out.
It felt so intense it was like having a star in your back, an overwhelming sense of compassion, sadness and joy kept running through me, it felt like I was going to cry. Euphoria also accompanied this feeling, like an energetic form of ecstasy, I felt like I had too much care and compassion for the universe as a whole.
I was lucky enough to experience this opening before college, so I was intensely euphoric and happy throughout the day. I still felt some of this opening the following day, but on the third day I felt just calm, anti-stressed and the euphoria had vanished.
After this second opening I felt my qi permanently rose...I have always been able to sense that white star in my upper back since the event took place, even if the magic of that day is forever gone.
Hope that is interesting~
dreambot
Edy:When I was walking in crowded places, or when I was in a cafe, in the beginning I would get like a boost of energies that made me feel sick. I stayed away from crowded places for a while.
dreambot: I've got this problem too. I find the energies of people in crowded places at first OK - but very soon I detect a lot of intensity which feels 'chaotic' and makes me want to get the hell out and just be alone in my room to recover...
I usually feel the worst when I've just come out of my meditation and I am very calm & peaceful and then go into a crowded place!
Naturally you feel the contrast most when you come out of the quietness of meditation into the mind world, when you are open and sensitive.
What helps the most with discomforts like you two are describing is Conscious Breathing. Bringing your attention down into your lower belly, below your navel, and continuing to breathe there just a little more deeply than usual. If your attention goes back up into your head, where most of us usually hang out, just bring it back down and breathe....
A variation is called Releasing Breathing, inhaling through your nose and exhaling through your slightly open lips, like a little letting go sigh.
You can make it a habit.
And yes... walking helps a Lot!
Xan
supernova
29-12-2010, 04:20 PM
When my Kundalini rises I become so potent and powerful in every respect. even sexually I become aroused.
Some Tantrics perform acts of sex when the energies they release cannot be put out and that is why at times some Tantric have sexual acts with their participants
Yes... In addition Tantric practitioners learn to direct their sexual energy for enhancing and smoothing the flow of kundalini and other energies, as well as inward awareness.
Xan
Edy31
29-12-2010, 04:34 PM
I am just trying to understand the concept generally and I know that there is difference in experience for everybody.
When you say 'When my Kundalini rises' does it mean that normally is stays in the bottom of the spine.
The way I experience my energy is that it stays up in my head all the time. The first 2.5 month I was trying to ground it and it was a struggle, now I am trying to ride it and it feels better.
When I ground too much, lets say when I go out for 4-5 hours, it goes below my heart chakra, and then when I get home, it rises up again and causes me difficulty to breathe as it passes through the heart, I have to lay down so it passes through my heart chakra quickly, if I just sit I can have breathing difficulties for a longer time. This has happened 3-4 times.
Does this make sense?
Thanks,
Edy
Yes... In most people kundalini is dormant, coiled at the base of the spine.
I'm not sure that the energy in your head is kundalini as it could be just the typical imbalance in our world of excessive focus in our mental aspect up in the head. Conscious belly breathing can bring you into balance.
Yes... "trying" to move energy just gets us into struggle. Instead, breathe and allow the energy to move and flow naturally.
Edy... I think you would benefit from doing the Microcosmic Orbit practice to get your energies flowing in a more balanced way... gradually and without effort.
Here's how: http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3682 (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fredir.php%253Flink %253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.spiritualforums. com%25252Fvb%25252Fredir.php%25253Flink%25253Dhttp %2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fwww.spiritualforums.com %2525252Fvb%2525252Fredir.php%2525253Flink%2525253 Dhttp%252525253A%252525252F%252525252Fwww.spiritua lforums.com%252525252Fvb%252525252Fredir.php%25252 5253Flink%252525253Dhttp%25252525253A%25252525252F %25252525252Fwww.spiritualforums.com%25252525252Fv b%25252525252Fshowthread.php%25252525253Ft%2525252 5253D3682)
You also seem to have some blockage in your chest / heart center which calls for emotional healing of hurt from the past... and for heart meditation practice.
Heart Meditations - http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4106 (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fredir.php%253Flink %253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.spiritualforums. com%25252Fvb%25252Fredir.php%25253Flink%25253Dhttp %2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fwww.spiritualforums.com %2525252Fvb%2525252Fshowthread.php%2525253Ft%25252 53D4106)
Xan
Edy31
29-12-2010, 04:44 PM
Thanks Xan,
I have been doing the breathing exercises you advise, thanks for those.
I am still trying to understand what's going on. A shaman told me this is K awakening, but I am keeping an open mind.
Thanks for all your help...
It's possible your kundalini awakening has begun in your head, but I think it's rare.
The main thing is not 'understanding' (which is part of that excess head-mind focus) so much as learning to be present with whatever is happening in you... simply allowing it all.
Xan
dreambot
29-12-2010, 04:53 PM
Thanks for the breathing tips, Xan.
I did notice it's an unfortunate side effect of the meditation...that when you meet ordinary people afterwards their energies seem more damaged or negative by comparison. I remember once I was doing the 'small universe' - this is master chunyi lin's variation of the 'microcosmic orbit' meditation. I did this meditation at night and had wonderful purples around the head (I saw it as internal vision only) and the next day when I went out - everyone had this slightly negative, pessimistic or problematic energies...
I could detect minor feelings of apathy, irritation, selfishness, anger - all these leaking off people across the room into me. However I normally feel pretty great when I'm alone, so I spend an increasing amount of my free time alone...of course this can get lonely, haha.
dreambot... I understand the need for solitude completely, as that is my style of living.
There's another step up too, in response to the negativity in people around us... we can rise to compassion for those who haven't yet discovered the real alternative in the inner self... compassion for the suffering the mind creates.
As kundalini begins to flow freely in the heart center, compassion is released.
Xan
dreambot
29-12-2010, 05:11 PM
The main thing is not 'understanding' (which is part of that excess head-mind focus) so much as learning to be present with whatever is happening in you... simply allowing it all.
Xan
Very similar view as Taoism. I'm also starting to believe that absolutely everything is part of one big system and that I should only do what feels right at any given moment (unfortunately society isn't that free, so there would be stuff I shouldn't do - according to society - but the 'source' may want me to do...).
The source would take 'karma' into account as well. It must be a very intelligent source to constantly adapt to what everyone and everything is doing (ie: adapt to constant change) while also exerting the laws of karma and arranging all our experiences so that they collide to give everyone what they needs in just the right way. Boggles the mind to think of such things.
It's usually bad to force stuff. I actually got told my my spirit guide that I didn't need to worry so much about trivial things, because the end result is the same - I'll constantly be redirected towards the path of developing/understanding within many lifetimes regardless of what I do...If I do a bad thing...karma will manifest and my journey towards understanding and growth could be delayed ...but the end result is the same really.
There is so much emphasis on extremely trivial things in society (material things), and my personality is naturally built to question everything and analyse it.
Sometimes I just need to let go and let it happen without trying to work out why. There is no way my human brain could attempt to understand it, it's too complex how things are panning out.
I don't know what's happening to Edy31, but it does sound like he has a lot of focus in the head area...Maybe imbalance of lower body energy?
Here are some of the things I do for my energy:
EFT (emotional freedom technique - clears all emotional blockages)
Chunyi lin's qigong (also contains meditations - I'm a fan of his qigong)
Tai chi (increases the flow of my energy)
bagua circle walk exercise (I am no expert on this - I copied it from youtube! But I get a lot of increase in my energy, my mind goes blank, my body comfortable and numb and I get vibrating hands which then heat up...)
The 'small universe' meditation increases energy flow through the front and back energy channels and chakras. Last time I did it I could feel hot energy in the abdominal organs and lower spine (also the upper spine in line with the heart) and I could feel little hot stars of energy in each chakra point - making it easier to locate the right point exactly.
I didn't feel those heats when I started though - I couldn't feel anything at the start, and didn't know if I was doing it right, it just took a little bit of time to work.
dreambot
29-12-2010, 05:14 PM
dreambot... I understand the need for solitude completely, as that is my style of living.
There's another step up too, in response to the negativity in people around us... we can rise to compassion for those who haven't yet discovered the real alternative in the inner self... compassion for the suffering the mind creates.
As kundalini begins to flow freely in the heart center, compassion is released.
Xan
Thanks! Yeah. I actually had some similar experience yesterday with the meditation I did. I got a huge amount of compassion...and hot glowing in the heart chakra. It is almost like a feeling of 'sadness and joy' mixed together.
supernova
29-12-2010, 05:17 PM
Yes... In addition Tantric practitioners learn to direct their sexual energy for enhancing and smoothing the flow of kundalini and other energies, as well as inward awareness.
Xan
That is why some spiritual persons are sexually active and of course it is a great power and something that creates a great connection.
But Tantra, spirituality and sex are things that must go in harmony and with restraint
Yeah. I actually had some similar experience yesterday with the meditation I did. I got a huge amount of compassion...and hot glowing in the heart chakra. It is almost like a feeling of 'sadness and joy' mixed together.
Beautiful!
A truth teacher named Neelam calls it cultivating Tenderness.
Just keep going...
Xan
OceanWaves19161
29-12-2010, 09:12 PM
Hi Xan/Uma
It's located right around the solar plexus/sacral area. After doing healings on people I've noticed its been the area were alot of authority archetypes have come up. They seem to try and control the persons everyday decisions out of fear. All I can describe it as is a type of "power basis" but its different to the solar plexus. If it helps my guides are saying its related to the shadow aspects of self??
Well sure... fear and power/control issues are basic shadow aspects to be released.
Xan
I guess the old "tantric sex" subject has come up. I want to comment on this.
Kundalini energy IS sexual energy. But what does that mean?
It's creative energy - it's loving, feels good and is responsible for all of creation in the universe.
In the human being, when sexual energy is manifesting in the sexual chakra, that's just plain old lust - a function of the body, Natures way of ensuring procreation.
Let's say your Kundalini is powerfully awakened and you are able to move that energy at will - OR - you feel great devotion and desire towards someone (or whatever gets your heart pounding) and it's more than lust. Then the Kundalini wants to move higher than the sexual chakra. As it rises, the sexual energy transforms into finer energy. At the naval chakra it emanates as vitality, radiance. At the heart chakra it emanates as love. At the throat it emanates as loving and attractive/charismatic speech - a person you feel like listening to, or an amazing singer. At the brow what started as lust way down below becomes transformed into what the yogis call "ojas" and as the energy moves towards the crown this becomes an intoxicating feeling.
If a spiritual person feels the need to have sex, it means they still have unfinished business (attachments) in the lower chakras, which is why they are on the earth plane - to work them out.
Celibacy was meant to be voluntary - for those who are able to transmute this sexual energy by bringing it up to the crown, the reason being to conserve their body's store of energy - because too much physical sex can be very depleting to the system (just like too much anger).
This is all I can think of for now about the subject...only to add that the spiritual high in the head area feels a thousand times more blissful than what physical sex can produce. Both varieties can be addictive and a trap on the journey if your goal is the highest.
supernova
30-12-2010, 06:04 AM
In fact there arises a great pull of energies and that pull sways you and you get lost. All your physical parts get stimulated and your sexual organs too and all need their emanation. When you get excessively hungry you eat and drink and when you get exceedingly sexually driven you need a partner there and that energy becomes a problem.
Yogic persons when implant their seeds in a virtuous woman's womb births a very powerful child.
You know Kunti used to call on some of the deities to impregnate her since her husband could not release powerful energies
Hi Xan/Uma
It's located right around the solar plexus/sacral area. After doing healings on people I've noticed its been the area were alot of authority archetypes have come up. They seem to try and control the persons everyday decisions out of fear. All I can describe it as is a type of "power basis" but its different to the solar plexus. If it helps my guides are saying its related to the shadow aspects of self??
You might want to take a look at Caroline Myss' writings about that (Energy Anatomy) and this http://www.myss.com/chakra/chakrasflash.asp and of course her detailed teachings about archetypes (although I don't personally agree 100% that we all have the same ones or that we are stuck with them forever).
Your observations makes sense. I can speak from personal experience on this one. The "gut" definitely has to do with empowerment/disempowerment issues. So many body organs are located there. It's where the food storage goes to first. It's where we digest things (mentally/emotionally as well as physically). It also has to do with willpower - related to the body. The brow chakra is also a centre dealing with willpower, but related to the mind. (There is a difference.)
I'm curious Alana, whether you're able to help the person restore their sense of personal power through your healing work... I assume it's energy work?
Supernova, about this:
Yogic persons when implant their seeds in a virtuous woman's womb births a very powerful child.
You know Kunti used to call on some of the deities to impregnate her since her husband could not release powerful energies
...um... A powerful soul is drawn to a powerful soul. I don't think it has anything to do with the physical sperm or physical womb at all. That's why my teacher tells pregnant women that if they want a very spiritual child, they need to become more spiritual themselves (loving, compassionate, more aware/awakened...etc...) if they wish to attract a more evolved soul.
And the other part of it is karma. DNA plays a bit of a role too but the soul attraction is the greater part.
supernova
30-12-2010, 06:15 AM
Supernova, about this:
...um... A powerful soul is drawn to a powerful soul. I don't think it has anything to do with the physical sperm or physical womb at all. That's why my teacher tells pregnant women that if they want a very spiritual child, they need to become more spiritual themselves (loving, compassionate, more aware/awakened...etc...) if they wish to attract a more evolved soul.
And the other part of it is karma. DNA plays a bit of a role too but the soul attraction is the greater part.
Our body is the abode of God and acts of sex can be a worship or a prayer, a renunciation and any child born of a mother who is consecrated with sacred acts of sex will be a great man
Ciqala
30-12-2010, 07:38 AM
Our body is the abode of God and acts of sex can be a worship or a prayer, a renunciation and any child born of a mother who is consecrated with sacred acts of sex will be a great man
hopefully the laws of reincarnation remember that :D
you seem to know things about tantra, i read somewhere, that the whole point was to refrain from orgasm, and channel the sexual energy from it to the chakras? And that actual physical sex was not really part of the tantric teachings, some of the exercises they did were harnessing sexual feelings through other lustful positions that did not include penetration?
Also, i was wondering if you knew about kundalini yogas. I want to control my kundalini better, but there doesn't seem to be any yoga classes in my area named "kundalini", i read somewhere though, that hatha yoga was okay for kundalini exercises. And i get weird looks whenever i ask people about it, because apparently Kundalini yoga can be quite sexual too.
To everyone else:
Has anyone else had the experience of being able to control kundalini? I've been able to switch the flows, up or down, and make it do what i please. Is that a good thing, or have i totally messed up the process?
supernova
30-12-2010, 07:46 AM
Hatha Yoga is a cruder form of yoga and it makes our body comfortable for meditation and once that is Raja Yoga and when you are in that state you no more need Hatha yoga and all else gets accomplished there.
You are right Hatha Yoga helps boost the powers ingrained in Kundalini and once your Kundalini is awakened you will be in a different state and you do not need Hatha Yoga. Then all you need is Raja Yoga and once you reach that state you have to shed all else and once you are across the river do not carry the boat that helped you go across
Ciqala
30-12-2010, 08:09 AM
Oh awesome, thanks Supernova, i'm going to look into Raja Yoga as well.
OceanWaves19161
30-12-2010, 08:33 AM
Yea it is energy work Uma. I have looked briefly at that book you suggested but didn't fully explore it. I thought it was interesting but I didn't agree with all of it either. I've found that the energy I help to channel tends to send people through storms for a couple of days and then they feel much better. The inner storms tend to be particularly bad after working in that stomach area though. One interesting thing I did find was that usually people had very contrasting archetypes within them. For example if someone had a submissive archetype they also tended to have a strong dominating archetype such as an overpowering king (this was usually hidden behind the submissive archetype).
supernova
30-12-2010, 08:43 AM
Oh awesome, thanks Supernova, i'm going to look into Raja Yoga as well.
When you are at that phase you will have no discrimination and everything becomes insignificant and all else will submerge into one great whole.
This is called yoga and you will be yogi and you will have yogic powers. You can rewrite your destinies then.
You may live like anybody, eat, drink, make merriment, have sex and live lavishly but you will live detachedly like a lotus flower though you are on mire you are not mired.
Ciqala
30-12-2010, 09:43 AM
Thanks again Supernova, yeah that would be nice. Detachment, oneness, and whole awareness is what my aim is, i have a long way to go, i do not have all awareness of earthly pleasures at all times, and my kundalini appears to be in an odd stage lately. The feel of yoga was always lost on me in the past, i hope to give it a try again soon enough, also hope to find teachers who stick to the real forms. I never explored much into the world of yoga, been interested for a long while now.
I'm also quite interested in learning the 5 tibetan rites, seems fascinating.
mayancalendar
30-12-2010, 10:14 AM
Hmm.. interesting! I am no expert on Kundalini myself, but did hear that trying to awaken it without a spiritual master is asking for trouble. Any dangers associated with Kundalini rising? Interesting thread!
Yea it is energy work Uma. I have looked briefly at that book you suggested but didn't fully explore it. I thought it was interesting but I didn't agree with all of it either.
I can't remember... What book?
Your energy work sounds really interesting.
One interesting thing I did find was that usually people had very contrasting archetypes within them. For example if someone had a submissive archetype they also tended to have a strong dominating archetype such as an overpowering king (this was usually hidden behind the submissive archetype).
This makes total sense to me. Passive-aggressive types fit that pattern. Also I've found it true in life that the stronger the light, the darker the shadow. (The one exception is one who lives in completely anchored in the crown chakra - but this type of being is extremely rare.) This is why people whose Kundalini has gone as far as the brow and who emanate a lot of energy can be the ones who cause the greatest healing and the greatest havoc in our world because their skill to control/manipulate their world is so much stronger than that of the average person. In another thread I told my own story of living across the street from a neighbour who was a Qigong healer and a psychic vampire at the same time (without intentionally meaning to be) - her energy fluctuations had a lot of impact on people. Same idea.
....about tantra, i read somewhere, that the whole point was to refrain from orgasm, and channel the sexual energy from it to the chakras? And that actual physical sex was not really part of the tantric teachings, some of the exercises they did were harnessing sexual feelings through other lustful positions that did not include penetration?
You're right Ciqala. This is a much more evolved practice. Tantric Yoga is meant to be an act of great love not great lust. The lust becomes transmuted into ojas, as I described. It is an extremely difficult practice although what's on the internet would suggest than anybody could do it. Physical sex was meant for procreation. It's Nature's game and keeps ego attached to the physical body and hence to the earth plane. It's very hard to fight the pull of the body - and all the karmic entanglements produced through body-associations.
Also, i was wondering if you knew about kundalini yogas. I want to control my kundalini better, but there doesn't seem to be any yoga classes in my area named "kundalini", i read somewhere though, that hatha yoga was okay for kundalini exercises. And i get weird looks whenever i ask people about it, because apparently Kundalini yoga can be quite sexual too.
All I know is that forcing the Kundalini to awake prematurely by breathing techniques is risky and requires an extremely competent guide. There are much safer ways. Hatha yoga is great for overall health and wellness and flexibility. Without awakened Kundalini, hatha yoga is merely gymnastics. With awakened Kundalini hatha yoga becomes a meditation practice.
To everyone else:
Has anyone else had the experience of being able to control kundalini? I've been able to switch the flows, up or down, and make it do what i please. Is that a good thing, or have i totally messed up the process?
It's definitely a good thing Ciqala. Ujai breath and the power of intention plus attention are all you need to get started - especially power of intention plus attention. If you want, there are also bandhas (seals/locks) to focus the energy on specific areas for different purposes such as remaining youthful, storing vitality... Kundalini is really your higher self, the power of God, working in and through you. How you choose to work with God is up to you. Kundalini will prompt you re. where it wants to go. You can allow it to and work with Her. You can also experiment and journal the effects of playing with the energy. This is when a meditation practice becomes an inner laboratory, and for the sincere seeker, it becomes a true inner temple or church or synague or mosque... It's really an interplay of small ego and big ego.
Our body is the abode of God and acts of sex can be a worship or a prayer, a renunciation and any child born of a mother who is consecrated with sacred acts of sex will be a great man
Supernova, I think you mean "will be a great human" :rolleyes: or was this meant to be a sexist statement?
Cigala and others... In my view, trying to 'control kundalini' is a mistake. This would be your mind trying to control your spirit... which is reverse from the natural order of things.
Sooner or later we each recognize that consciousness and energy awakening, including kundalini arising, is not about managing and manipulating our energies, but finding ways to allow them to flow fully and naturally.
This is how we become enhanced and lifted up to living as our higher / true Self.
Xan
Cigala and others... In my view, trying to 'control kundalini' is a mistake. This would be your mind trying to control your spirit... which is reverse from the natural order of things.
Sooner or later we each recognize that consciousness and energy awakening, including kundalini arising, is not about managing and manipulating our energies, but finding ways to allow them to flow fully and naturally.
This is how we become enhanced and lifted up to living as our higher / true Self.
Xan
I used to think the same way Xan. Then my teacher introduced me to the idea of experimental meditation practice - using yogic techniques to tap into the energy of the Source (aka Kundalini) for healing and opening the chakras and reiking peace, love and harmony to our world. It means not sitting there passive and waiting for spiritual experiences to happen, but working with the experiences to expand one's own self-empowerment. For me the goal is self-mastery and freedom from bondage. I strive to work in alignment with my universe, in surrender to divine will - but, as he has helped me to realize, "surrender" is not a passive but a proactive process. It's the idea "God helps those who help themselves."
Perhaps when you say "finding ways to allow them to flow fully and naturally" is another way of being proactive. My teacher also speaks of "allowing" - it means getting the ego out of the way so that the divine may manifest more fully (ideally, in fullness). Again, this can be done in a meditation practice by aligning with the Kundalini and experimenting to see how it can become strengthened and stabilized inside. For example, one often sees people in meditation with their heads falling back by the Kundalini power. This is Kundalini energy wanting to go to the brow chakra. By cooperating with it, by focusing on the brow and breathing into the brow, we (our little ego) can help it move where it wants to go. So this is "allowing" - but in a proactive way.
And we can also say, "Time out." or "Stop." or "Less intensity please." And the Kundalini, our God-Self, will comply. We have freewill and the right to exercise it, to grow at the pace we choose.
And in the mindfulness practice of every day living, Kundalini can become a powerful meter of best behaviour, moving more powerfully within us when we do things that please it (virtuous behaviour for instance). Whatever excites the Kundalini becomes a prompt or cue as to how to act with wisdom. Doing this kind of "homework" during the waking hours results in a more fulfilling meditation practice. And a more fulfilling meditation practice results in more self-mastery during the waking hours.
What do you think?
I agree, Uma... That is what I mean by "finding ways to allow them to flow fully and naturally" where they have been blocked or dormant.
I like the teaching of The Middle Way.... Not too much directing energy and not too much just hanging out.
Xan
Here 'tis... Spiritual Sexuality - http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?p=101512#post101512 (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D101512%23post101512)
or here - http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8579
Xan
Ciqala
31-12-2010, 02:21 AM
Cigala and others... In my view, trying to 'control kundalini' is a mistake. This would be your mind trying to control your spirit... which is reverse from the natural order of things.
Sooner or later we each recognize that consciousness and energy awakening, including kundalini arising, is not about managing and manipulating our energies, but finding ways to allow them to flow fully and naturally.
This is how we become enhanced and lifted up to living as our higher / true Self.
Xan
Thanks for the input,
but no, i just feel like i moved into another stage, and it wasn't a mistake.
Just throwing another concept out there. I have discovered more to my own kundalini that is usually out and about.
After kundalini flow has gone through the stages of tearing through blockages, rising upwards, falling downwards, spreading all over the body, not just the main seven chakras, in fact, it can rise to the 8th and beyond, below the feet, all throughout the minor chakras throughout the body, below the earth star, kundalini flow, can go up, and it can go down, it can start from the crown and move downwards, it can even skip, and jump like dot to dot, so it feels. Kundalini is supposed to be a permanent thing, not something that just stops. The main location it is supposed to be permanently at, is the crown, you usually feel sensations at the crown permanently, it becomes something you can easily get used to. That is the goal. If it moves away from the crown, or if it stops, and kundalini happens again, it means you have not gone through the cycle properly, or it simply means the fire needs to spread to heal other areas of the body, so it seems. Kundalini movement in lower chakras can begin to feel to come to a rest after it has done its viscous cycle, but is stimulated again, daily, secondly, over various of things, it never really dies out.
Kundalini eventually becomes the most pleasurable and orgasmic experience in the world. Once the initial stages of uncomfortable lightening bolts is over, you can easily gain control of it, and it becomes wonderful feeling, and part of every day life.
Controlling kundalini seems to be beneficial in many ways. Focusing on kundalini helps it explore so many other areas, we may not even be aware of. Once you gain control of it, you can gain the ability to keep it permanently at the crown, which is the ideal, and that is what leads to higher awareness, and/or use the energies to heal blockages and what not in other areas of the body. Most cases, when you even start to control it, it gains a mind of it's own, which is important to let it eat through any slight blockages that may be there.
I also go along with the belief it originated from, kundalini awakening is never over, it keeps on going until you achieve immortality. Control is a good thing, in that sense too.
That is why i am looking into kundalini yogas, and/or tantra, to learn to control the process even more.
Nice description of your discoveries with kundalini, Cigala. Thank you.
It occurs to me that what you are calling 'control' I refer to as 'directing' energy, which may develop the potential further.
Yes, kundalini is a permanent aspect of our energy being.
As for the ideal of it remaining focused in the crown, as I see it the fullest function of kundalini is for it to flow and integrate all of what we are with the crown... universal consciousness.
Xan
OceanWaves19161
31-12-2010, 02:38 AM
Hi Uma,
Yes I've found that as well. I've found too that mediums tend to have greater amounts of light and darkness in them as well. I wonder if thats because they tend to have had alot of lifetimes and therefore have more contrasting types of energy??. I used to attract lots of psychic vampires to me when I first opened up spiritually. I later discovered it was because I had a pattern for draining people too. I think alot of people do it without realising!!
Ciqala
31-12-2010, 03:07 AM
Nice description of your discoveries with kundalini, Cigala. Thank you.
It occurs to me that what you are calling 'control' I refer to as 'directing' energy, which may develop the potential further.
Yes, kundalini is a permanent aspect of our energy being.
As for the ideal of it remaining focused in the crown, as I see it the fullest function of kundalini is for it to flow and integrate all of what we are with the crown... universal consciousness.
Xan
Hehe, well that ends up summing up what i was trying to say anyways, guess we're on the same page after all :D
in progress
31-12-2010, 08:16 AM
Ciqala, I just read somewhere that raja yoga was the only type worth doing after an awakening. Is this what you found? I really don't know anything about yoga but wanted to try something easy.
Ciqala
01-01-2011, 01:21 AM
Ciqala, I just read somewhere that raja yoga was the only type worth doing after an awakening. Is this what you found? I really don't know anything about yoga but wanted to try something easy.
Yeah, i've been told by a teacher i just met today by magical chance, it is the practice of achieving the highest awareness, Raj or Raja Yoga is to do it the royal way, and is more based on the mind, like meditation, it is the practice of highest awareness, in hopes to lead up to liberation, which is like immortality, finally completing the cycles of reincarnation.
I am just getting into all of this myself, i will be learning more about yogas for spiritual awareness in the near future.
supernova
01-01-2011, 01:26 AM
There are different practices and when one reaches that state, that is a yogic state one does not have to use bodily or physical practices of yoga and one gets liberated.
Raja yoga is the last stage and with that one will be in a state of complete awareness
NightSpirit
01-01-2011, 01:41 AM
I experienced a kundalini awakening in the early 2000's. It would take a journal to record its intricate affects, so is not something I tend to talk about.
I didn't know this thread existed till just now, and being so long I just scanned through the first few pages. I spotted a post that went ~Bing!~ ..the poster mentioned the kundalini going back to sleep. I feel I have allowed this to mostly happen to me for good reasons. I can still easily access the 'knowledge awakening' part, but I had to tuck the physical side of it away. It would be nice to keep it alive if one had the kind of life to accommodate it, but practically speaking...most of us don't.
supernova
01-01-2011, 01:50 AM
Kundalini is basically used to awaken one's latent energies and since it lies in the bottom of the spinal cord it is closer to our reproductive organs and that is why some of the persons practicing it go astray. The heightening the power of Kundlaini at times is a physical activity and less of a spiritual one and that is why if it does not go with deep meditation it may lead one to perversion too. That is why we have some priests pedophile.
Meditation is a higher stage of spiritual practice and is therefore must be done together with the awakening of Kudalini
NightSpirit... It may not be that your kundalini has gone back to sleep, but has become integrated into your overall energy system to the degree that it is not noticeable like it was in the dramatic days of its awakening.
My hunch is, if you were to practice Microcosmic Orbit or simply visualize the flow of light energy in your central channel in the spinal cord you might be surprised at what you find... and I'd like to hear about it. :-)
Xan
supernova: Raja yoga is the last stage and with that one will be in a state of complete awareness
Well as I see it, "complete awareness" isn't something we can really aim for in this world, but we just keep going... expanding and deepening in consciousness, energy and love.
Xan
Just to add to the discussion about yogas... The way of divine energy (Kundalini) is the way of all yogas. When Kundalini is awakened in the sushumna, She prompts and facilitates the yoga, or combination of yogas, that is most appropriate for the soul. When She is prompting, they become effortless - doesn't matter which yoga it is. It's a very individual thing.
Ciqala
01-01-2011, 09:33 AM
Yeah... i did some more learning on yogas. Am starting to take Kundalini yoga because i personally like it better, all forms of yoga lead to higher awareness, and complete awakening, they just have different paths of getting there, and depends all on where a person is at in their journey, and what a person feels more inclined towards.
Kundalini Yoga: is not just about kundalini rising, it is the absolute involved conscious way, ever expanding awareness, and has the same principles as all yogas. Kundalini Yoga is the divine union of your higher self and higher consciousness, it also deals specifically with the most powerful thing in the universe, life energy, Prana, Kundalini Yoga can teach one to discover this, but it also teaches one how to harness this, use it, and gain ultimate consciousness, and also liberation. Thus, it is also great for people who have awakened kundalini already.
Raj yoga: it is traditionally called "Raj" is called royal, because it means King, as in, the mind is King, over all. The practices mainly include ways to deepen your awareness towards the ultimate awareness, source, higher self, ect, ways to achieve power over the mind. Chances are, most people do this already, when they meditate. This is a great yoga for those who want to strengthen their relationship with "god" as they know it, or to silent the mind. It is a good yoga for those who wish to obtain Samhadi, (complete awakening = so rare, in fact, only two people in history have accomplished.) But all yogas lead to this, not just one. This basically means, those two famous people, no longer have to live again. Yoga belief is based around reincarnation. Being serious here, no one should expect to obtain that immortality, it takes lifetimes, of practice in order to achieve. This yoga is therefore good, for that practice, but so is any yoga, and so is meditation.
Gyan Yoga: is the path of intellect, path of knowledge, a great path for those analytical minds, this path is significant as any other. This is the path of ultimate freedom. It is also, one of the practices, that can help obtain ultimate liberation, same as the other forms of yoga.
Bhakti Yoga: is path of ultimate devotion, to whatever your higher power is, path of worship in a more personalized form, path of love, also leads to higher awareness.
Karma Yoga: Path of karma, path of liberation, path of freedom, path of actions that submit to higher source, and non attachment.
Mantra Yoga: the path of chanting the meditating, the sacred syllables, raising one's vibration through sound current.
Anyway, all yogas are equally important to what they offer spiritually, and they all lead to higher awareness, and of course the end goal is liberation, good luck with that if you seek it, they all teach amazing steps in the journey. The only order that should be followed, is where a person is at, because awakening, is different for everybody.
There are many yogas to choose from! Whatever floats your boat, and whatever path you wish to take.
NightSpirit
01-01-2011, 09:48 AM
NightSpirit... It may not be that your kundalini has gone back to sleep, but has become integrated into your overall energy system to the degree that it is not noticeable like it was in the dramatic days of its awakening.
My hunch is, if you were to practice Microcosmic Orbit or simply visualize the flow of light energy in your central channel in the spinal cord you might be surprised at what you find... and I'd like to hear about it. :-)
Xan
hmmm...I never thought of this as possible, yet I can relate to what your saying as feeling somehow right, now that I go back over my years since, in my mind.
I'm not sure what Microcosmic Orbit is, but I can research it..thanks. Also I can try the visualisation you suggested.
You say "you'd like to hear about it"....do you mean the results of trying your suggestions? :smile:
supernova
01-01-2011, 10:35 AM
Yoga means to be at one with God or some power that crated the universe. And when we speak of Raja yoga it is the ultimate phase and people will be fully aware of their real natures. There will be worldly desires and there will be only consciousness in those who attain this stage.
Of course at the lower end when the starter practices yoga he will have sexual desires since it stimulate physical organs and that is why often awakening Kunldalini is linked to sexual energies
Ciqala and Supernova,
Just adding more to this very informed discussion - we all know bits and pieces and the combination is rounding out the picture...
There is a yoga for every chakra. So yoga preferences indicate what chakra you are predisposed to using in your life...where you live. Every chakra is also a dimension of existence, as well as a stage on the journey. People think chakras are just centers of energy and information but they are much more than that. It's where the idea of "seven heavens" (and "seven hells") comes from.
What I mean about Kundalini prompting the yogas that are custom made for the soul is that Kundalini is the Inner Guide (Holy Ghost, Inner Guru, Divine Self etc...) When you are doing hatha yoga and suddenly your body seems to be doing it all by itself, that is Kundalini doing it. When you are singing devotional songs and suddenly your voice is just a happening and you are watching and tremendous power and love is coming through your voice - that is Kundalini empowering Bhakti Yoga. If you are doing insight meditation and start to intuite all kinds of information...the kind that leads you to realizations about who you are and where you are headed (wisdom, divine inspiration)...that is Kundalini Yoga inspiring Raja Yoga.
With an awakened Kundalini, we are guided to use all the yogas OR only the yogas we as individuals need (because we may have dealt with issues in the past and don't need them anymore or because of our temperament and particular soul contract). It is not necessary to study "Kundalini Yoga" (I mean you can if you want to) but the Guide from within will guide you spontaneously and naturally.
The troublemaker is the limited ego, that lower self part of us that gets in the way... Attachment leads the ego to swing too far in any extreme, veering far from the middle way - that stillpoint or centre and is objective and balanced and in perfect harmony with everything around. This is when the Inner Guide isn't enough and we need a competent Outer Guide to help us interpret the promptings of the Inner Guide.
Edy31
01-01-2011, 03:37 PM
Some traditions refer to Kundalini as the Goddess, while some others treat it as energy.
While some say that Kundalini is necessary to reach enlightenment, some say you can get the siddhis or even go into samadhi without the need of Kundalini.
What do you think about these?
Some traditions refer to Kundalini as the Goddess, while some others treat it as energy.
What do you think about these?
Thanks Edy31 for your excellent questions and the opportunity for me and others to share this important knowledge...
Everything is energy.
But energy manifests in various states.
H2O can manifest as vapour, liquid or solid but it's all just water.
Energy can manifest as subconscious mind, conscious mind or physical gross energy.
The physical world viewed through an electron microscope is energy.
Energy disappears and reappears. It is never lost.
Where is it coming from? That leads to the big questions.
All these labels of energy are just classifications and subclassifications of the one energy.
Kundalini is the Sanskrit word for the power of God (in the East "God" is considered both male and female) manifesting in a human body. It manifests qualities that are female or yin in nature so it is often called "Goddess." It's just a word or label to focus the mind on a particular manifestation of the same energy that is here there and everywhere. The truth is "Thou art That" - so you are Kundalini and much more besides. To really give a "definition" of Kundalini would take a much longer explanation. Better to go seek the experience yourself - in a safe and natural way (read all the posts above)! If you are thirsty would you rather study all the properties of H2O or go and have a drink?
While some say that Kundalini is necessary to reach enlightenment, some say you can get the siddhis or even go into samadhi without the need of Kundalini.
Kundalini experiences are all spiritual experiences - and these have various levels or degrees of significance (some having more transformative/evolutionary value than others depending on who it's happening to, what stage they are at, why etc...). Some people don't have the same terminology to describe it as such, like St. Teresa of Avila who described her Kundalini journey through the seven chakras as a journey into the seven mansions of the house of God (which Caroline Myss is exploring). All references to "ladders" are references to the spine. etc..... Entire mystical traditions (and all mystical traditions have spin offs, such as religions) debate what's going on during the transformation of consciousness but basically we are all talking about fruit, even if some are talking about apples and others about oranges. That's why once you experience glimpses of enlightenment, you will recognize references to Kundalini awakening even in cultures that don't have a name for it no matter where on the globe or when in human history.
Definitely Kundalini awakening is necessary to reach enlightenment, whether you know it or not, whether you are aware of it or not. Evolution takes us all through Kundalini awakening eventually.
Siddhis and samadhi are symptoms, not the true or ultimate goal of Kundalini awakening.
One last piece of advice (sorry Xan and others - I could talk forever on this subject) - be careful of information that is based only on research and not your own first hand experience. Seeing is believing (sort of).
Edy31
01-01-2011, 07:06 PM
Thanks Uma,
I very much appreciate that knowledgeable people like you and Xan share your experiences and ideas on the subject, and I am sure a lot others do too.
In one of your previous posts I believe you said that
...awakening Kundalini, is an inspiring experience but the real challenge is to open your self up to new levels of consciousness... (sorry that I am not quoting you word by word)
Do you mean that acceptance is key, or is there more to this?
Thanks again,
Edy
Excellent information and viewpoint, Uma. Thank you.
Yes, subtle energies and consciousness are inherently linked. We have grown up with a materialistic science that views all energies as mechanical in their effects, occurring in blank space. New quantum science recognizes space is not empty but full of consciousness and continuously interacting energies. Kundalini is part of that unified field
Yes, kundalini and chakras are spiritual energies, whatever one calls them, and their activation is not always dramatic and intense. All our 'powers' come from an enhanced flow of energies, which is the natural state we are returning to in our re-awakenings.
Xan
Emmalevine
01-01-2011, 07:29 PM
Definitely Kundalini awakening is necessary to reach enlightenment, whether you know it or not, whether you are aware of it or not. Evolution takes us all through Kundalini awakening eventually.
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Thanks so much for all the useful unformation Uma.
Just one thing - sorry if I sound thick - do you mean that everyone experiences Kundalini at some point even if not during one particular lifetime? So it might in fact take many lifetimes to experience any degree of awakening but we all do eventually? Is this what you are saying?
In one of your previous posts I believe you said that
...awakening Kundalini, is an inspiring experience but the real challenge is to open your self up to new levels of consciousness... (sorry that I am not quoting you word by word)
Do you mean that acceptance is key, or is there more to this?
Thanks again,
Edy
Hi Edy,
My pleasure...What I meant was that the purpose of the energy is to open you up to a new awareness (consciousness) yes. I said that because we tend to want to repeat really nice energy experiences when we no longer need to, because we have passed that stage. According to my teacher who has finished the journey, there are no dramatics once Kundalini reaches the crown, but indescribeable peace, love, joy....it's basically paradise on earth. You can check out his many videos and workshops on this link (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blue-star.org).
The key is being receptive. Sri Vasudeva says that a wet log of wood will not catch fire. It has to be dry. So too if we are full of desires for material pleasures, full of "ego" and little desire to know our own divine self, there is nothing to even attract that grace of awakening. And it is not enough to say, "Ok I want awakening, come and get me." The universe wants to make sure you really badly want it. So you need to prove it. And you do this by self-discipline, following some spiritual practice (it doesn't have to be Kundalini Yoga) and all the self effort it takes to show that you are sincere. When you are deserving you get what you want, as with anything in life. And the saying is, when the student is ready, the teacher will appear. The purpose of the teacher is to transmit his or her energy to you (Shaktipat). The great ones are transmitting all the time but we can only receive it if we allow that energy in. So it's the idea of "Seek and you shall find," (desire) and "Knock and the door shall be opened unto you," (self effort or "God helps those who help themselves"). It's like one candle lighting another.
This story is as old as time. See Joseph Campbell's writings on the hero in mythology. It's all based on this. See link (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwik i%2FMonomyth).
I have a nonreligious way of explaining it too for the atheists out there.
Thanks so much for all the useful unformation Uma.
Just one thing - sorry if I sound thick - do you mean that everyone experiences Kundalini at some point even if not during one particular lifetime? So it might in fact take many lifetimes to experience any degree of awakening but we all do eventually? Is this what you are saying?
Yes Starbuck. Sri Vasudeva asserts that Kundalini is responsible for all spiritual experiences and that we are spiritual beings in a human experience in an evolutionary journey. This evolutionary journey is Kundalini's journey back to the Source. We are all Christs in the making, Buddhas in the making. Amazing isn't it? He says we are lions who think we are sheep because we've never met another lion.
But Kundalini awakening is very individual. If you had lots of dramatic awakenings in the past, you may not need them in this lifetime.
Look at the serpentine path of a river. Or the way the branches grow on trees. Look at the spiraling arms of our galaxy or the eliptical orbit of electrons in an atom. Kundalini energy is manifesting everywhere, everything is evolving - but we just call it by another name - Prana (Chi/Qi/Holy Spirit) - life force energy.
Only the human brain has the capacity to allow the incarnating soul to be self-aware and work in a conscious way with its own evolutionary journey. Otherwise life throws us around and we feel like victims, powerless and ineffective when in truth we have amazing power to co-create our evolution with our universe.
Edy31
02-01-2011, 12:09 AM
Hi Edy,
The key is being receptive. Sri Vasudeva says that a wet log of wood will not catch fire. It has to be dry. So too if we are full of desires for material pleasures, full of "ego" and little desire to know our own divine self, there is nothing to even attract that grace of awakening. And it is not enough to say, "Ok I want awakening, come and get me." The universe wants to make sure you really badly want it. So you need to prove it. And you do this by self-discipline, following some spiritual practice (it doesn't have to be Kundalini Yoga) and all the self effort it takes to show that you are sincere. When you are deserving you get what you want, as with anything in life. And the saying is, when the student is ready, the teacher will appear. The purpose of the teacher is to transmit his or her energy to you (Shaktipat). The great ones are transmitting all the time but we can only receive it if we allow that energy in. So it's the idea of "Seek and you shall find," (desire) and "Knock and the door shall be opened unto you," (self effort or "God helps those who help themselves"). It's like one candle lighting another.
Uma, thanks very much for the explanations.
What you say makes so much sense to me, I relate it very much to my own awakening.
Blessings!
Edy
NightSpirit
02-01-2011, 02:59 AM
" It's just a word or label to focus the mind on a particular manifestation of the same energy that is here there and everywhere. The truth is "Thou art That"
Love it!! That sums it up for me with minimum word usage. You saved me a lot of words lol..thanks Uma :smile:
Emmalevine
02-01-2011, 08:20 AM
Yes Starbuck. Sri Vasudeva asserts that Kundalini is responsible for all spiritual experiences and that we are spiritual beings in a human experience in an evolutionary journey. This evolutionary journey is Kundalini's journey back to the Source. We are all Christs in the making, Buddhas in the making. Amazing isn't it? He says we are lions who think we are sheep because we've never met another lion.
But Kundalini awakening is very individual. If you had lots of dramatic awakenings in the past, you may not need them in this lifetime.
Look at the serpentine path of a river. Or the way the branches grow on trees. Look at the spiraling arms of our galaxy or the eliptical orbit of electrons in an atom. Kundalini energy is manifesting everywhere, everything is evolving - but we just call it by another name - Prana (Chi/Qi/Holy Spirit) - life force energy.
Only the human brain has the capacity to allow the incarnating soul to be self-aware and work in a conscious way with its own evolutionary journey. Otherwise life throws us around and we feel like victims, powerless and ineffective when in truth we have amazing power to co-create our evolution with our universe.
Wow that is pretty amazing Uma, that's for that. It encapsulates our human existance in a very profound way.
Life is amazing Starbuck, and the vast majority of us are only a tiny percentage alive. We don't know who we are, we don't know our power and we don't know how to tap into the Infinite Source (the same Source that powers up the entire universe) and use it in our daily lives. To paraphrase Sri Vasudeva, it's like owning a Lamborghini and you never even take it out of the driveway.
NightSpirit
03-01-2011, 12:31 AM
it's like owning a Lamborghini and you never even take it out of the driveway
HaHa...good analogy!
hmmm...I never thought of this as possible, yet I can relate to what your saying as feeling somehow right, now that I go back over my years since, in my mind.
I'm not sure what Microcosmic Orbit is, but I can research it..thanks. Also I can try the visualisation you suggested.
You say "you'd like to hear about it"....do you mean the results of trying your suggestions? :smile:
I mean looking into the core channel to see what's really going on there... moving energy or not.
Here's a Microcosmic Orbit article: - http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3682
Xan
Some traditions refer to Kundalini as the Goddess, while some others treat it as energy.
While some say that Kundalini is necessary to reach enlightenment, some say you can get the siddhis or even go into samadhi without the need of Kundalini.
What do you think about these?
Kundalini is one significant form of Shakti, which is the primordial energy of existence... of life. Shakti is also referred to as Divine Mother in some Eastern religions.
Everything is consciousness and energy, inherently bound together like fire and its heat. So the energy of shakti and kundalini are expressions of consciousness and may be felt personally as Presence, as well as vibrationally.
In spiritual awakening our awareness expands and our energies become more activated, including kundalini. Not everyone awakening knows the names of the energy forms or how to direct them but they are working anyway.
As we go on we come to trust and let ourselves be lead by the silent wisdom and these subtle energies of our 'higher self'.
Xan
Ciqala
03-01-2011, 02:16 AM
I mean looking into the core channel to see what's really going on there... moving energy or not.
Here's a Microcosmic Orbit article: - http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3682
Xan
I enjoyed doing that microcosmic orbit meditation :) just finished it as of now, and it felt amazing, still feels amazing. I enjoy working with gold energies! Clear gold feels nice.
Glad to hear it, Cigala!
Xan
Emmalevine
03-01-2011, 03:46 PM
This ringing in my ears is really intense and I've got earache as well! It coincides with the tingling around my third eye and crown. Anyone who has experienced ear problems does it improve quickly? Can I do anything to ease it without blocking what is happening?
Starbuck... When the ringing is too intense it's because there is some resistance, some holding back going on in you.
(In fact, this is the cause of all intensity and conflict... resistance in the mind, consciously or unconsciously.)
You can ease it by breathing down in your belly and accepting whatever you feel, even the intensity at the moment... learning to allow it all.
Just keep breathing and letting go into the sounds and sensations and notice what happens.
Xan
Emmalevine
03-01-2011, 11:02 PM
Hi Xan
That did work and it eased for a while, but the problem is, it increases to unbearable levels after meditation! I also get a lot of ear ache after I've meditated. I'm trying to sink into it but it's like I've got a swarm of bees inside my head at the moment, or a radio tuning itself over and over. I swear this isn't anything medical - I also have cold breezes around my head and earsand tingling in my third eye that intensify during meditation so it's all very connected. I just hope it settles down to some bearable level soon.
Well Starbuck... What can you do but keep breathing in your belly, allowing and letting go all during the day, not just in meditation practice.
Some days all I do is breathe.
Xan
Emmalevine
03-01-2011, 11:16 PM
Thanks Xan, I will certainly do I can to stay with it.
Yes... You can develop the habit. I used to put notes to remind myself around my house. "Breathe! or "Breathe Within" etc....
Xan
Ciqala
04-01-2011, 01:03 AM
Well Starbuck... What can you do but keep breathing in your belly, allowing and letting go all during the day, not just in meditation practice.
Some days all I do is breathe.
Xan
Hah, good thing, wouldn't not want to breathe some days :D Really that is quite amazing, i would become buzzed with energy if all i did was focus on breathing all day.
Anyways i have a serious question about breathing. Is shallow breathing detrimental? It doesn't seem to be effecting me health wise, but when i do breathing meditations for kundalini and other things, i notice my natural breathing is kind of creepily shallow, like at times i'm hardly breathing at all, and this tends to happen a lot even when i get in the "zone" sometimes i even stop breathing. Should i try to change my natural breathing, and will practicing deep breaths even change it? I've worked on my heart chakra, because i read somewhere that it can cause shallow breathing, is that true? I mean i think my heart chakra is pretty healthy otherwise. I'm not having any anxiety (that i know of) it just seems to be my natural relaxed state of breathing, and that seems odd.
Cigala... Although natural breathing is in the belly (just observe infants and animals to see this) shallow or arrested breathing during meditation or spiritual practices is fairly common. It's when your breathing is shallow in ordinary life or in certain circumstances that indicates some fear and restriction in the subconscious mind.
Xan
Emmalevine
07-01-2011, 12:43 PM
For those of you who have experienced ringing in the ears, did you find it went higher pitched and became almost like a tinkling sound? I'm now experiencing a very high pitched whistling or tinkle, mainly in my left ear. When I tune in it intensifies and I also get a lot of tingling on my crown at the same time. It isn't unlike the feeling I occasionally get when I'm overtired and just dropping off to sleep, and I get a sort of woosh in my ears or a very high pitch buzz. It is very much like that.
Lightspirit
07-01-2011, 01:20 PM
For those of you who have experienced ringing in the ears, did you find it went higher pitched and became almost like a tinkling sound? I'm now experiencing a very high pitched whistling or tinkle, mainly in my left ear. When I tune in it intensifies and I also get a lot of tingling on my crown at the same time. It isn't unlike the feeling I occasionally get when I'm overtired and just dropping off to sleep, and I get a sort of woosh in my ears or a very high pitch buzz. It is very much like that. i got that last year I attributed it to industrial deafness which i think it is in my case tinnitus but it may partialy be kundilini too
Emmalevine
07-01-2011, 01:35 PM
Thanks Lightworker. In my case it all started during meditation so there isn't a deafness element.
i got that last year I attributed it to industrial deafness which i think it is in my case tinnitus but it may partialy be kundilini too
Au... Here's an article about The Inner Sound Current that relates to what you're experiencing: http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3703
Xan
athribiristan
12-01-2011, 04:17 AM
A very intersting and educational thread. I had no idea until recently that people encountered so many problems awakening the Kundalini. My experience was under what I would consider to be ideal circumstances. I was raised in a psychic household and grew up around lots of energy work. I was about 16 when I first began manipulating Kundalini and it was very pleasant. This took place during a guided meditation where every one in the class participated. In the last week or two I have found several references online to traumatic experiences and it got me to wondering what the big difference is. Why were able to bring the Kundalini into the room and channel it without any of these problems?
After much thought I have concluded that it had a great deal to do with the preparatory techniques that we were taught in the weeks leading up to that session. I offer this as a help to those who are in process or planning to be working with Kundalini.
The most useful technique is called grounding and I always figured it was common knowledge amongst energy workers. I have lately been disabused of that notion as I find more and more energy workers who have never heard of it. Anyway the concept (as with most energy techniques) is very simple. In the early stages of meditation you create a connection between the base of your spine (1st chakra) and the center of the earth. This is called your grounding cord and can take any form that is comfortable for you; a beam of light, a spaghetti noodle, a spiral stair or whatever, what is important here is the concept.
The purpose of grounding is to provide a safe conduit for energy to leave your body quickly. If at any time you feel overwhelmed by energy or emotions that come up during a session you can dump it down into the earth where it can dissipate safely. Hopefully this will help people have an easier time.
Also I would add a point of clarification or two:
Kundalini is a tranformative energy that assists us in awakening our latent powers. We each start with a seed that sits at the base of our spine. As the chakras open (typically in succession from the bottom up) the Kundalini works it way up. A blockage in any chakra can hinder this process and based on my experience would likely explain the problems people seem to have.
After the Kundalini has reached the crown it allows the real work to begin. At this stage Kundalini from the cosmos is able to enter through our crown chakra and do its work awakening your psychic abilities.
As others have said this is not a step for novices. Ones chakras should be open and balanced and one should have a good grounding in energy work at the very least. Ideally I would suggest that only those who already have awakened abilities attempt to do this intentionally.
With Love,
athribiristan
This is good information, athribiristan. Thank you.
Kundalini is a tranformative energy that assists us in awakening our latent powers. We each start with a seed that sits at the base of our spine. As the chakras open (typically in succession from the bottom up) the Kundalini works it way up. A blockage in any chakra can hinder this process and based on my experience would likely explain the problems people seem to have.
After the Kundalini has reached the crown it allows the real work to begin. At this stage Kundalini from the cosmos is able to enter through our crown chakra and do its work awakening your psychic abilities.
As others have said this is not a step for novices. Ones chakras should be open and balanced and one should have a good grounding in energy work at the very least. Ideally I would suggest that only those who already have awakened abilities attempt to do this intentionally.
Xan
supernova
12-01-2011, 04:45 AM
Kundalini once becomes activated we become stirred up. I often sit in meditative postures for hours with concentration and I believe my Kundalini gets fired up and I release a stream of energies. I become a very aggressive person and can do lots of things and get aroused sexually too.
If one does nothing after the awakening of Kundalini one may be burned up. Make sure you do something creative once your Kundalini is awakened
Emmalevine
12-01-2011, 11:00 AM
This might sound weird but has anyone else experienced visions of fruit? During the night I kept seeing fruit as if it was being drawn across my forehead. It struck me as significant due to the fruit of knowledge in the Bible, plus fruit is a symbol of growth. I'd be interested if anyone else has experienced this.
Maybe you just need to eat more of it, Starbuck.
Xan
Emmalevine
13-01-2011, 08:08 AM
No Xan, I eat a reasonable amount already! My diet is vey healthy,
I am also seeing religious figures, galaxies etc.
Mouse
13-01-2011, 08:57 AM
This might sound weird but has anyone else experienced visions of fruit? During the night I kept seeing fruit as if it was being drawn across my forehead. It struck me as significant due to the fruit of knowledge in the Bible, plus fruit is a symbol of growth. I'd be interested if anyone else has experienced this.
I haven't experienced this one but fruit is a symbol of growth/fertility I would have thought. I sometimes see, or feel like I'm actually 'becoming', a lotus/orchid like flower when meditating and think this is something similiar. The physical aspect of your experience, i.e. you feel as if it is being drawn across your forehead, seems to me to emphasise that it is about growth (same as my feeling that I 'become' what I am seeing).
No Xan, I eat a reasonable amount already! My diet is vey healthy,
I am also seeing religious figures, galaxies etc.
Well then, Starbuck, I have another obvious question. :tongue: ... What do your guides say about what you're seeing? That would be my first choice.
Xan
athribiristan
14-01-2011, 05:21 PM
I haven't thought about or used this in a while but I had an experience yesterday (more to come on that later) that forced me to dig deep into my bag of tricks and I found this one.
Yesterday I found myself receiving huge amounts of energy from the cosmos. It came on gradually and I was so caught up in what I was talking about that I didn't pay much attention to it at first and by the time it really hit, I was taken a bit off guard. I wasn't grounded or centered and I had to get energy flowing fast or be overwhelmed. After I remembered to ground I started a technique I used when I was starting with energy work. It is a simple breathing technique/visualization that helps to clear out stubborn or excessive energy.
When you breath in, imagine yourself expanding to emcopass all of the energy or emotion. When you breath out imagine your self contracting to a single point, compressing the energy withing yourself as you do so. When you reach the end of the exhalation, push with your solar plexus and send the point down your grounding cord. I may take several breaths so keep going with it until you feel like you've regained your equilibrium.
The most important thing to remember is that you are a being of energy. This is your 'natural' element and you should never fear it. Hopefully this will be helpful.
With Love,
athribiristan
Reiterating this suggestion:
When you breath in, imagine yourself expanding to emcopass all of the energy or emotion. When you breath out imagine your self contracting to a single point, compressing the energy withing yourself as you do so. When you reach the end of the exhalation, push with your solar plexus and send the point down your grounding cord. I may take several breaths so keep going with it until you feel like you've regained your equilibrium.
The most important thing to remember is that you are a being of energy. This is your 'natural' element and you should never fear it.
Xan
Guthee
16-01-2011, 09:46 PM
I am starting to think mine is waking up, but it doesn't hurt or bother me thankfully.
Just cold and hot randomly (sometimes at the same time),
super tingly & twitchy
been very sensitive to the earths vibration these past few days,
everyones energy is..LOUD! so loud...I swear I can feel everyone! Most peoples energy is so cluttered too...
head and spine kinda sore....
when my eyes close it gets more intense but doesn't bother me, although I did have problems sleeping the other night, kept seeing flashing lights and hearing loud banging/pops from outside, that was all odd last night...I don't know what was up!
really thirsty again too, last time that happened to this degree was when I was healed by a shaman
I feel like I am being watched and followed too, by nothing bad
so much energy, been cleaning, organization-y, I want to do a yard sale and declutter but its snowy and winter so no one will buy my **** lol
ears super buzzy again too
seeing lights everywherelife is fun, isn't it?
I can feel the heartbeat of the earth, warm and alive!
I can feel the vastness of space as well, its nice... :)
I don't know how to describe the space, it blows my mind
live2sing
19-01-2011, 05:57 AM
thank you for sharing this knowledge with us. I presently am in a Kundalini yoga class and LOVE it! I just feel so grounded and emotional when I leave it as it is also followed by a meditation as well...How has Kundalini impacted you and your life?
Guthee: I am starting to think mine is waking up, but it doesn't hurt or bother me thankfully.
Just cold and hot randomly (sometimes at the same time),
super tingly & twitchy
been very sensitive to the earths vibration these past few days,
everyones energy is..LOUD! so loud...I swear I can feel everyone! Most peoples energy is so cluttered too...
head and spine kinda sore....
when my eyes close it gets more intense but doesn't bother me, although I did have problems sleeping the other night, kept seeing flashing lights and hearing loud banging/pops from outside, that was all odd last night...I don't know what was up!
really thirsty again too, last time that happened to this degree was when I was healed by a shaman
I feel like I am being watched and followed too, by nothing bad
so much energy, been cleaning, organization-y, I want to do a yard sale and declutter but its snowy and winter so no one will buy my **** lol
ears super buzzy again too
seeing lights everywherelife is fun, isn't it?
I can feel the heartbeat of the earth, warm and alive!
I can feel the vastness of space as well, its nice... :)
I don't know how to describe the space, it blows my mind
It's good when people let us know not everyone's kundalini awakening is somewhere between difficult and horrible but even some parts are quite enjoyable. Thank you, Guthee.
Xan
Mouse
24-01-2011, 04:00 PM
Does anyone have experience of Kundalini that is stirring/rising etc. causing a propensity to illness? My energy swings up and down anyway, from weak and washed out to the opposite and I pick up viruses one after the other.... my work absence record is looking pretty bad! Of course it could be other things causing this but have often wondered....
Mousex
Guthee
24-01-2011, 05:28 PM
It's good when people let us know not everyone's kundalini awakening is somewhere between difficult and horrible but even some parts are quite enjoyable. Thank you, Guthee.
Xan
:hug2:
your welcome Xan
There is always good with the bad
Emmalevine
24-01-2011, 06:26 PM
Guthee: I am starting to think mine is waking up, but it doesn't hurt or bother me thankfully.
Just cold and hot randomly (sometimes at the same time),
super tingly & twitchy
been very sensitive to the earths vibration these past few days,
everyones energy is..LOUD! so loud...I swear I can feel everyone! Most peoples energy is so cluttered too...
head and spine kinda sore....
when my eyes close it gets more intense but doesn't bother me, although I did have problems sleeping the other night, kept seeing flashing lights and hearing loud banging/pops from outside, that was all odd last night...I don't know what was up!
really thirsty again too, last time that happened to this degree was when I was healed by a shaman
I feel like I am being watched and followed too, by nothing bad
so much energy, been cleaning, organization-y, I want to do a yard sale and declutter but its snowy and winter so no one will buy my **** lol
ears super buzzy again too
seeing lights everywherelife is fun, isn't it?
I can feel the heartbeat of the earth, warm and alive!
I can feel the vastness of space as well, its nice... :)
I don't know how to describe the space, it blows my mind
It's good when people let us know not everyone's kundalini awakening is somewhere between difficult and horrible but even some parts are quite enjoyable. Thank you, Guthee.
Xan
My experience hasn't been unpleasant in the slightest either. I experienced a small amount of stinging in my crown when it first started, but nothing to complain about. The main problem I had was severe ear ache as my ears started to attune to higher vibrations and frequencies but this was relatively short lived. It has now been a month and I haven't had major ear ache in about two weeks so it was very much a temporary issue. I certainly haven't experienced the frightening effects and pain that others I've read about seem to.
Here are my main symptoms to date:
Tingling sensations in crown
Energy flowing through body
Feelings of cold through body and head
Feeling of heat and stinging on spine and head
Muscle jerks and spasms, nothing painful
Spiritual visions
Buzzing, ringing, whistling, bells, music, white noise and eventually muffled voices in my ears
Buzzing around my head and forehead
Seeing vivid colours when I close my eyes
Seeing dark shapes when I close my eyes
My main ones are the visions, colours and noises in my ears. The whole experience has been wonderful for me :smile:
Guthee
24-01-2011, 09:52 PM
@ starbuck
YAY! Glad it's not as tramatic as people make it out to me for you as well
I have been having monster headaches lately and buzzing in my ears more then normal. Those headaches include the front of my head, but thankfully so far that's the worst of it.:rolleyes:
OH and super, super, VERY oh so very HYPER!
Yes indeed. When there is fear, resistance, struggle and worry about what we are experiencing it becomes difficult... not only with kundalini awakening but anything.
Accepting and allowing it all is the key.
Xan
Mouse
25-01-2011, 02:29 PM
I guess no one has come across the illness thing then.. OK.
supernova
25-01-2011, 02:41 PM
My Kundalini is rising now and I cannot contain myself. How can I channel my energies when it is brimful.
Emmalevine
28-01-2011, 08:03 PM
Just wondered...has anyone else noticed a massive general increase in Kundalini energy according to their emotional state?
By energy I mean increased buzzing around head and ears, tingling crown, cold feelings and constant visions and coloured lights.
Emmalevine
28-01-2011, 08:14 PM
Does anyone have experience of Kundalini that is stirring/rising etc. causing a propensity to illness? My energy swings up and down anyway, from weak and washed out to the opposite and I pick up viruses one after the other.... my work absence record is looking pretty bad! Of course it could be other things causing this but have often wondered....
Mousex
Just wanted to say I've read your post. Sadly I can't really say because I have an ongoing illness anyway but I think Kundalini does have an impact. I've actually found I'm not so tired when its particularly active which is the opposite of your experience, but I read somewhere it can go either way. I've also noticed that I don't suffer in usual ways with my illness such as muscle problems and alcohol intolerance when the Kundalini is very active which is positive for me :smile:
Mouse
29-01-2011, 12:57 PM
Just wanted to say I've read your post. Sadly I can't really say because I have an ongoing illness anyway but I think Kundalini does have an impact. I've actually found I'm not so tired when its particularly active which is the opposite of your experience, but I read somewhere it can go either way. I've also noticed that I don't suffer in usual ways with my illness such as muscle problems and alcohol intolerance when the Kundalini is very active which is positive for me :smile:
That is good for you; perhaps the energy has already figured out that you have enough to deal contend with! I just feel deep down somehow that there is a connection between stirring Kundalini and my erratic energy levels and the repeated bouts of flu like illnesses I seem to cop. Am recovering from concussion at the moment and the energy is buzzing away more than ever! (and I really shouldn't be on the computer too much at the moment so better scamper off I think!). Anyway, thanks for replying and I hope this thread continues to attract more discussion on people's experiences, it is really interesting to read.
Emmalevine
29-01-2011, 01:51 PM
I hope it settles soon Mouse :smile: I'm buzzing today too - I feel like I have a swarm of loud bees circulating my head and ears!
Do you or anyone else notice any pattern to when the Kundalini is active? I find some days I don't experience much at all apart from if I tune in during meditation or at night, but other days like today I am flooded with energy and raised vibrations. I am also inundated with visions everytime I shut my eyes - not that I'm complaining :smile:
Mouse
31-01-2011, 12:25 PM
It is more active when I am quieter basically.... so it may be a perception thing i.e. I am more likely to notice and sense it when I am doing less. My feeling is that it is very much connected to the earth so this is where the fluctuations come from as the earth has it's own cycles....
in progress
31-01-2011, 05:32 PM
I've noticed cycles of busy kundalini and break times. I used to cycle faster early on and now the cycles are longer. By that I mean maybe I was really buzzy for a month or two then get a week off. Now I might get energy for 3-4 months (less intense now) then get a couple of months off. I still feel the energy every day but the overall intensity has decreased. And now when I'm getting time off I feel more disconnected. I don't like it!
In the last few months, after a chakra opened in the back of my head, the feel of the energy began to change. It feels less like vibration and more like a trickling, prickly, tickly kind of thing. It feels more pleasant too at times.
Emmalevine
31-01-2011, 08:24 PM
Interesting thanks guys. I find my Kundalini is more active during periods of emotional upset, although its relatively early days for me so it might be a coincidence. It also seems to be more active when I'm very tired. I get the buzzing around my head a lot during those times and a lot of visions. The whistling in my ears is always there but luckily it's not intrusive unless I focus upon it or if it's very quiet.
Emmalevine
31-01-2011, 08:25 PM
Funny as soon as I wrote the last post my ears started to crackle and pop and I got a burst of energy in my crown!!
I don't recognize any particular pattern of vibrating or buzzing except it happens to some degree every day. Since I'm well used to it now I don't give it much attention except to think, "Ah yes, transformation is going on."
As for getting weak and sick from it, Mouse, it could be from the energy shifts but if it were me I would get checked out by a holistic healer or some other health practitioner to find out if there's an imbalance or deficiency that needs correcting. It could be some problem that had been masked and is now showing up for correction because you are more aware.
Xan
Mouse
03-02-2011, 08:32 AM
Yes, I'd like to find a holistic healer who is good at what they do and genuine in their approach. A lot of dodgy ones out there I'm afraid... Acupuncture or Shiatsu deals with energy so maybe along those lines.
StoneAgeQueen
03-02-2011, 11:13 AM
Could having snake dreams be something to do with kundalini?
Mouse
03-02-2011, 01:46 PM
Could having snake dreams be something to do with kundalini?
Yes, as far as I know, they certainly can be. I had one about a giant snake chasing me not long before the whole buzzy thing started. Have a look at www.dreammoods.com - they have some interesting stuff about snakes.
Mousex
StoneAgeQueen
03-02-2011, 02:05 PM
Thanks Mouse. :)
I've been plagued with snake dreams all my life and have a bad phobia of them. I always thought it was past life based, but this is another possibility.
Mouse
03-02-2011, 02:44 PM
Can't stand them either! If there is a snake on TV I always look away or turn over, same if I even see a photo of one in a book or magazine...I'd go as far as to say I hate them which is odd for an animal lover!
Dream interpretation books and sites can be fun and thought provoking but ultimately I think that the only person who knows the meaning of your dream is you.... it will be in there somewhere if you can tune into it..
StoneAgeQueen
03-02-2011, 02:55 PM
I'm a total animal lover too, it's strange isn't it! I'm actually quite frightened to try and find out the reason, although i know it'll probably help if I do. I'm having some past life regression done in the next few weeks, I wonder if anything will pop up from that.
Fi xx
Emmalevine
04-02-2011, 11:11 AM
Thanks Mouse. :)
I've been plagued with snake dreams all my life and have a bad phobia of them. I always thought it was past life based, but this is another possibility.
Snake dreams can be a sign of rising Kundalini although personally I've never experienced them. On the other hand, if you have a born phobia of them it's quite possible that your mind is simply playing on your fear to encourage you to face it rather than it being down to Kundalini. Just a thought.
Emmalevine
04-02-2011, 11:15 AM
For those of you who see visions of people/beings...are they actual entities or imprints of our changed nervous system?
Just wondering because people say different things. I keep seeing a dark shape that I think might be a guide and I have been asking it to reveal itself so will see. Just wondered what people's thoughts were on this.
I also see visions of scenes and objects, usually moving ones, and they are very meaningful to me.
Starbuck... Of course people could be different things about these visions because they Are different things.
If it were me I would ask it what it is.
Xan
Starbuck: Snake dreams can be a sign of rising Kundalini although personally I've never experienced them. On the other hand, if you have a born phobia of them it's quite possible that your mind is simply playing on your fear to encourage you to face it rather than it being down to Kundalini. Just a thought.
Well said, Starbuck.
Whether a snake dream is about kundalini or not, the fear needs to faced and released in order to become free.
Xan
Emmalevine
05-02-2011, 10:49 AM
Starbuck... Of course people could be different things about these visions because they Are different things.
If it were me I would ask it what it is.
Xan
Thanks Xan. Well I have been asking and I'm also encouraging it to come closer, so will see. I do have a strong feeling its a guide. I could just about make out some sort of symbol as well - it was a circle with what looked like a star inside it. I think this figure was wearing it but I could be wrong.
StoneAgeQueen
05-02-2011, 12:32 PM
Snake dreams can be a sign of rising Kundalini although personally I've never experienced them. On the other hand, if you have a born phobia of them it's quite possible that your mind is simply playing on your fear to encourage you to face it rather than it being down to Kundalini. Just a thought.
How should I face this fear? :icon_frown:
How should I face this fear? :icon_frown:
There are many ways to face and release emotional patterns. One of the best methods for getting free of fears like yours about snakes is EFT - Emotional Freedom Techniques. There's a brief article about it at: http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4478
Xan
Emmalevine
08-02-2011, 03:45 PM
Has anyone else seen a tunnel when they close their eyes that moves as if you're travelling down it?
Guthee
08-02-2011, 04:11 PM
Has anyone else seen a tunnel when they close their eyes that moves as if you're travelling down it?
yes! mine is purple with white/silver lights at the end
Emmalevine
08-02-2011, 05:14 PM
yes! mine is purple with white/silver lights at the end
Same here :smile: I see more white the further down the tunnel I go. It starts offf a very vivid and beautiful purple/blue.
aquarius09
17-02-2011, 12:39 AM
I think I felt it because I felt electricity like sensations run through my body.
weimin3196
21-02-2011, 06:18 PM
Will Kundalini powers affect your physical power? Like would it increase your strength? From all the comments I've read about this post, this made me kind of curious about the Kundalini.
Emmalevine
21-02-2011, 06:31 PM
Certainly wish it had as I could use more strength!
So no, not in my case. But psychically yes.
star-child
21-02-2011, 07:54 PM
I haven't read all the replies on this thread so someone may have already mentioned it but is an energetic shiver down your spine associated with Kundalini?
pirrurris
21-02-2011, 07:55 PM
I've been always curious about kundalini yoga. Do you recomend it and what are the benefits?
Emmalevine
21-02-2011, 07:56 PM
Hi Star-child
yes it is. I've experienced this a lot while meditating and can be hot or cold. I've experienced both.
pirrurris
21-02-2011, 07:57 PM
Is it good for depression too?
Emmalevine
21-02-2011, 07:58 PM
Does anyone else with awakened Kundalini see a small ball of white light that is constantly in their line of vision? Anyone know what it is? I wondered if it's my third eye. I always see it with closed eyes but I can also spot it in the room when its dark.
star-child
21-02-2011, 08:33 PM
Hi Star-child
yes it is. I've experienced this a lot while meditating and can be hot or cold. I've experienced both.
Hello :smile:
Mine happens randomly and it has been happening for years now but it feels as if it comes from the base of my neck and down my body, but my understanding is Kundalini comes from the root chakra and should rise instead of go down. Anyone has any thoughts on this?
Graelwyn
21-02-2011, 10:59 PM
I have not read a great about kundalini, although obviously I know of it, and the basis of what it is.
I have been experiencing, what I can only term a rapid acceleration of spiritual learning this year, having closed myself off to it for several years as best I could.
It has been this mixture of feeling as if I am spewing out energy and floating, to feeling as if I am full of light and heat. There is no sensation up my spine, but rather has been a sense of energy around my head. I went through a short phase of excessive difficulty with my emotions, they all seemed to rise up, forcing stuff to the surface, and I am still trying to deal with that (it is as if every past hurt I have allowed to fester, has forced its way up to be dealt with and let go of).
But what it irritating to me, is that I am well, my sexuality seems to have accelerated too. I am single, I do not engage that way with another, but the energy coming from that area is astonishing and is making it very difficult for me to focus on my learning. I do not know if that can be part of kundalini, but most assuredly, I do not usually have this sort of issue, lol.
weimin3196
22-02-2011, 03:01 AM
Certainly wish it had as I could use more strength!
So no, not in my case. But psychically yes.
What do you mean? You said it doesn't but then in the end, you said physically yes. Gimme a simple answer, yes or no? thanks :) i appreciate the help
in progress
22-02-2011, 09:22 AM
Does anyone else with awakened Kundalini see a small ball of white light that is constantly in their line of vision? Anyone know what it is? I wondered if it's my third eye. I always see it with closed eyes but I can also spot it in the room when its dark.
I would guess this is the case. I don't know for sure.
I've seen mine light up twice at night from above but I was in the midst of power surges both times. I now see a sparkling donut effect in the center of my vision in bright light or when I'm looking at white things sometimes.
Emmalevine
22-02-2011, 10:09 AM
What do you mean? You said it doesn't but then in the end, you said physically yes. Gimme a simple answer, yes or no? thanks :) i appreciate the help
I said PSYCHICALLY I'm stronger, not PHYSCIALLY lol. This means I'm building on psychic abilities but sadly not my physcial; strength.
So absolutely no confusion :wink:
Emmalevine
22-02-2011, 10:11 AM
I would guess this is the case. I don't know for sure.
I've seen mine light up twice at night from above but I was in the midst of power surges both times. I now see a sparkling donut effect in the center of my vision in bright light or when I'm looking at white things sometimes.
Thanks In Progress - I think it might be what i see too. When I'm in a dark room I see this white light becoming very sparkly and super-imposed on the ceiling or whereever I'm looking.
Neville
22-02-2011, 10:14 AM
I have always been very interested in the subject matter,
I am led to understand that if I had experienced such a thing as a Kundalini awakening, I would certainly know about it.
Is it possible for this thing to happen with no recognizable symptoms?
Emmalevine
22-02-2011, 10:24 AM
Hi Neville
It's my understanding that you would certainly be aware, but this is based on my own experience which started very abruptly and obviously, and from books I've since read on the subject.
Some Kundalini awakenings seem to be more gradual than mine and perhaps lesser in nature, but it's unlikely you would be totally unaware of it. Maybe Xan or someone can help you better.
Neville
22-02-2011, 11:51 AM
Thankyou Starbuck,
I am erring towards the conclusion that as of yet my Kundalini is pretty much as it was when I entered this Life, If this is a possibility, I wonder whether one can be born having already gone through this process and indeed whether this is an entirely physical phenomena.
I really should read up on this, It's like everything else, if it has no particular significance to me personally, I tend not to read up on it.
However, Quiet a few refer to this Kundalini awakening so I mean to read up on it and see if I can get a better understanding :smile:
Neville
22-02-2011, 03:00 PM
As suggested,
I did a little research, here is about the most straightforward explanation of what it is, that I could find. Its a Hindu thing then ?
http://www.reiki-for-holistic-health.com/kundaliniawakening.html (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .reiki-for-holistic-health.com%252Fkundaliniawakening.html)
I don't think I have experienced this, though I do meditate for prolonged periods. (in excess of 20 mins) but never more than Two hours). :smile:
tainamom
22-02-2011, 08:00 PM
My kundalini awakening was very, very nice. I had taken the Reiki TUMMO classes 1 & 2. The first day opened the shushumna, heart chakra and palm, connected me to the earth and cracked the kundalini core. The second day, the ajna was opened, the shushumna widened and the kundalini opened. I felt more divine energy entering through my crown chakra. I felt the kundalini energy fire rising to right below my throat chakra. It was warm and so WONDERFUL. I loved it so much that I kept taking more classes to advance in their yoga program.
The biggest problems I did have was primarily a lot of 'junk' in the nape of the neck and root chakras. I didn't get too many headaches. I had a lot of neck pain and I had POOR POSTURE. If the posture is bad, the kundalini doesn't flow well. It took me a year to finally start doing some form of exercise (the 5 Tibetan Rites) due to my laziness and chronic fatigue. After many months of daily Rites, the neck finally stopped hurting me and so did my lower back. I practice the prayer and kundalini techniques they gave me to speed up cleansing the energy body.
Overall, I'm really happy that I went this route. I'm told that it was opened by the Law of Love, not the Law of Karma, which was really, really good.
It's been a bit over 2 years and it's been great. Sure I have my down moments - lots of anger, hated, all sorts of negativity coming out, but I've had my upside too. I have more energy, I heal faster, many personal issues are resolving, greater compassion, happiness, love and faith, more inner strength, better emotional and mental health. I'm feeling so much better and happier now than I did when I was 20! It was worth it's weight in gold for me, especially at a time when doctors couldn't help me. I'm doing things physically that I couldn't even do since I was a kid. I am in my early 40's, but I was very weak and sick just 6-8 years ago.
The kundalini activates more when I"m in my heart more and when I'm coming down with something. I start to feel a lot of heat on my left side. The fire has risen to my head area. The shushumna is getting wider, but I have a long way to go before it widens wide enough in all energy layers. But it's all good. :wink:
lanbee
23-02-2011, 01:51 PM
I've read in several places the different "problems" that can come about by raising Kundalini. I was wondering, when speaking of pain or tingling especially in the LEFT foot or leg, why would this be in the LEFT side in particular? Any clue?
tainamom
23-02-2011, 04:36 PM
I've read in several places the different "problems" that can come about by raising Kundalini. I was wondering, when speaking of pain or tingling especially in the LEFT foot or leg, why would this be in the LEFT side in particular? Any clue?
From my experience, all pain or problems are basically blocks in the energy system.
I have been experiencing, what I can only term a rapid acceleration of spiritual learning this year, having closed myself off to it for several years as best I could.
It has been this mixture of feeling as if I am spewing out energy and floating, to feeling as if I am full of light and heat. There is no sensation up my spine, but rather has been a sense of energy around my head. I went through a short phase of excessive difficulty with my emotions, they all seemed to rise up, forcing stuff to the surface, and I am still trying to deal with that (it is as if every past hurt I have allowed to fester, has forced its way up to be dealt with and let go of).
But what it irritating to me, is that I am well, my sexuality seems to have accelerated too. I am single, I do not engage that way with another, but the energy coming from that area is astonishing and is making it very difficult for me to focus on my learning. I do not know if that can be part of kundalini, but most assuredly, I do not usually have this sort of issue, lol.
Yes Graelwyn... you are describing signs and effects of kundalini awakening. As you say, resisting one's spiritual growth can cause a back-up of energies... but then most people do resist, consciously or unconsciously.
I have found the best way to deal with any intense or uncomofortable energies, kundalini otherwise, issimply to allow and breathe with them... letting them flow as they need to... letting of any holding on or resisting in the body-mind.
Breathing in your lower belly, bringing your attention below your navel, while gently accepting and allowing whatever you experience leads to energies smoothing out and flowing naturally.
Unwanted or excessive sexual energy can be directed in two ways:
* Breathe it gradually up the sushumna... the subtle central energy flow in the core of the spinal cord... up through the crown and out.
or
* Breathe it down and out away from your body so it dissipates like a mist.
It's good to try both methods and notice the effects of each.
Xan
Neville: I am led to understand that if I had experienced such a thing as a Kundalini awakening, I would certainly know about it.
Is it possible for this thing to happen with no recognizable symptoms?
Yes Neville... you would definitely know it although, although as Starbuck said for some people the activation is less intense and troublesome. My hunch about you is it has not yet happened. I generally suggest that people continue their regular spiritual practice of going into the quiet space within, and wait for kundalini awakening to come spontaneously at the right time.
On the other hand, there are those few teachers who know to do this activation in ways that do not lead to the intense disruption kundalini has become famous for, as Tianamon has described.
Its a Hindu thing then ?
Kundalini cannot be a "Hindu thing" because this energy flow in inherent in everyone though dormant in most. Hinduism has knowledge about such things that other religions often don't.
Xan
Is it good for depression too?
Hi pirrurris... Kundalini is not a method for emotional healing, but there are energy healing approaches for such problems as depression. One of the best is EFT - Emotional Freedom Techniques. There's a brief article about it at: http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4478 (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fshowthread.php%253 Ft%253D4478)
Xan
lanbee: I've read in several places the different "problems" that can come about by raising Kundalini. I was wondering, when speaking of pain or tingling especially in the LEFT foot or leg, why would this be in the LEFT side in particular? Any clue?
lanbee... There are several energy systems in the body, such as chakras, meridians and nadis, and many places where energy flows may be blocked, and many different reasons for blockage that may or may not have to do with kundalini awakening.
The best approach is to find an energy worker who can track down the exact problem and release with you.
Xan
Mouse
24-02-2011, 10:29 AM
I've read in several places the different "problems" that can come about by raising Kundalini. I was wondering, when speaking of pain or tingling especially in the LEFT foot or leg, why would this be in the LEFT side in particular? Any clue?
I have definitely experienced this - buzzing/vibration in left leg and foot. I'm sure there is a proper 'yogic' explanation for it but I have always wondered whether it has something to do with the idea that one side of your body is male energetically speaking, and one side is female. Not sure which is supposed to be which! Maybe someone out there knows something about this?
The physical sensation of Kundalini.
I hesitate to even post this, but I will anyway.
Orgasim.
This is but one of many possible physical sensations of Kundalini, Myer. Many are more subtle and equally delicious.
Xan
Emmalevine
25-02-2011, 11:03 AM
As suggested,
I did a little research, here is about the most straightforward explanation of what it is, that I could find. Its a Hindu thing then ?
http://www.reiki-for-holistic-health.com/kundaliniawakening.html (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fredir.php%253Flink %253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.spiritualforums. com%25252Fvb%25252Fredir.php%25253Flink%25253Dhttp %2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fwww.spiritualforums.com %2525252Fvb%2525252Fredir.php%2525253Flink%2525253 Dhttp%252525253A%252525252F%252525252Fwww.reiki-for-holistic-health.com%252525252Fkundaliniawakening.html)
I don't think I have experienced this, though I do meditate for prolonged periods. (in excess of 20 mins) but never more than Two hours). :smile:
It's interesting that some people such as yourself Neville meditate for long periods without having experienced an Kundalini awakening.
It makes me think that there must be other factors involved to cause it to awaken and that it will do so only when the time is right for each person, regardless of the length of time spent in spiritual practices (although they are always good).
I had only started meditating 2 months before my Kundalini awakened but I felt intuitively that ongoing painful life events had contributed because I was going through profound personal and spiritual changes as a result.
That said, I know some people with awakened Kundalini don't know what is happening to them, and still others have been able to deliberately activate theirs before it was ready, so who knows. :confused:
One of the many mysteries of life :smile:
in progress
25-02-2011, 11:16 AM
I had a new experience with the very top of my head a few days ago. It wasn't orgasmic, vibration or pressure. It was almost as if the energy was like a loving stroke or gentle touch. It was very nice. I was at work and stopped for a few moments to enjoy the sensation.
tainamom
25-02-2011, 06:32 PM
The physical sensation of Kundalini.
I hesitate to even post this, but I will anyway.
Orgasim.
Yes, orgasms can happen. I'm starting to get them when I'm feeling an intense love for the "Source" of Love and Light. I feel all the energy rising. Makes me worry if I still need a husband. lol.
tainamom
25-02-2011, 06:46 PM
I had a new experience with the very top of my head a few days ago. It wasn't orgasmic, vibration or pressure. It was almost as if the energy was like a loving stroke or gentle touch. It was very nice. I was at work and stopped for a few moments to enjoy the sensation.
Was it tingling? From my experience, I get tingling feelings because my crown chakra is open/unlocked and the Divine Energies flow down. I'm taught to ignore it and just work on opening the heart chakra more because that's how we connect to Source.
tainamom
25-02-2011, 07:14 PM
I have definitely experienced this - buzzing/vibration in left leg and foot. I'm sure there is a proper 'yogic' explanation for it but I have always wondered whether it has something to do with the idea that one side of your body is male energetically speaking, and one side is female. Not sure which is supposed to be which! Maybe someone out there knows something about this?
I too had this buzzing all down my left leg. It just kept bothering me and would go on and off. This went on for months and it wouldn't go away. I have no idea why. One day I was doing a self-healing or meditation and there was this really big release of energy and I just started laughing. BUT I still have problems w/ pain in the left sciatic nerve. Not sure if the sciatic pain is related to the buzzing down the rear left leg, but the buzzing is gone. For me, any pain or discomfort are energy blocks and some could be karmic. :/
Graelwyn
25-02-2011, 09:43 PM
Yes Graelwyn... you are describing signs and effects of kundalini awakening. As you say, resisting one's spiritual growth can cause a back-up of energies... but then most people do resist, consciously or unconsciously.
I have found the best way to deal with any intense or uncomofortable energies, kundalini otherwise, issimply to allow and breathe with them... letting them flow as they need to... letting of any holding on or resisting in the body-mind.
Breathing in your lower belly, bringing your attention below your navel, while gently accepting and allowing whatever you experience leads to energies smoothing out and flowing naturally.
Unwanted or excessive sexual energy can be directed in two ways:
* Breathe it gradually up the sushumna... the subtle central energy flow in the core of the spinal cord... up through the crown and out.
or
* Breathe it down and out away from your body so it dissipates like a mist.
It's good to try both methods and notice the effects of each.
Xan
Thankyou and yes, I naturally when I experience the energy, visualise it travelling up my spine and dissipating.
I am experiencing an incredible amount of energy of late, in phases, almost, somedays it is as if my head is surrounded by energy, my senses have become much more acute ( I notice smells etc around me) and at times I think I do block it because it is so intense, as if my consciousness is expanding outwards or somesuch.
in progress
26-02-2011, 01:17 AM
Left side is the feminine "energy in" side.
Hi tainamom. Not tingles though I've had that too. Maybe it was something like a bliss hit except I'm not exactly sure what that might be.
I agree w/ the focus on the heart chakra, particularly high heart chakra. I even had a dream where I was being shown how to take in energy in that area.
tainamom
26-02-2011, 02:02 AM
Left side is the feminine "energy in" side.
Hi tainamom. Not tingles though I've had that too. Maybe it was something like a bliss hit except I'm not exactly sure what that might be.
I agree w/ the focus on the heart chakra, particularly high heart chakra. I even had a dream where I was being shown how to take in energy in that area.
I'm not too familiar w/ the experience of a 'blissful state'. Maybe I've experienced it, maybe not. I might need to research people's description of it.
A lot of people have many different experiences w/ all sorts of energy. I have my own experience. I'm taught to just use a finger or two to touch the heart chakra (armpit level) and smile to it. Let the energy go down and feel the joy. Very simple to do, but hard to hold onto. :)
in progress
26-02-2011, 09:33 AM
I'm not sure about the blissful state either. All I know is that I go through cycles that feel like connection and disconnection. I'm sure they're cycles of clearing then higher consciousness. My connection times are starting to feel nicer and nicer, the disconnections can at times feel harder than previous disconnections.
Concerning the heart/higher heart chakra area I was being shown to draw in golden light and when I feel joy radiate from it I usually feel it radiate up into my throat chakra.
tainamom
26-02-2011, 11:38 PM
I'm not sure about the blissful state either. All I know is that I go through cycles that feel like connection and disconnection. I'm sure they're cycles of clearing then higher consciousness. My connection times are starting to feel nicer and nicer, the disconnections can at times feel harder than previous disconnections.
Concerning the heart/higher heart chakra area I was being shown to draw in golden light and when I feel joy radiate from it I usually feel it radiate up into my throat chakra.
For me, the Divine Love and Light sometimes feel like swiss cheese where it'll radiate in some parts more than others, then after a while it feels as if it goes through my whole body - like a hot, tingly lightbulb growing brighter and brighter, going downwards and/or spreading out. Then the kundalini gets more active and I feel the fire burning more and more around my ears in an upwards direction. I still have a long way to go w/ kundalini, so the flames are around my head area now. I can't see this, but I feel it.
What lovely descriptions of your continuing awakening, folks. Thank you so much for sharing them.
It just gets better and better, doesn't it.
Xan
Yes, orgasms can happen. I'm starting to get them when I'm feeling an intense love for the "Source" of Love and Light. I feel all the energy rising. Makes me worry if I still need a husband. lol.
tianamon... I am with this intense love/sex passion as pure energy that doesn't necessarily need physical expression of any kind. It's just deliciously moving within myself.
Xan
tainamom
28-02-2011, 08:29 PM
tianamon... I am with this intense love/sex passion as pure energy that doesn't necessarily need physical expression of any kind. It's just deliciously moving within myself.
Xan
:wink:
i remember when one person told me about it, i was so jealous that i didn't want to hear anymore about it. then i was ashamed at the thought of feeling this way, but one day, during meditation, i decided to give my passion to Source and it was great! I figured, it was also a part of me that i had to share all my love with. now, i'm not ashamed of it. if it happens, it happens, if it doesn't, then that's fine. i'm glad mostly of letting go of the shame. :D
Emmalevine
28-02-2011, 08:37 PM
I've never had spontaneous orgasms although at times I feel very sexually aroused, particularly in dreams :redface:
However, I get the most activity around my crown and third eye so this is where my Kundalini experiences seem to be concentrated. I occasionally get heat and cold sensations in other parts of my body but my head is always buzzy and tingly.
Emmalevine
01-03-2011, 04:36 AM
Since the start of my awakening I've seen visions of figures when my eyes are shut, but very recently they've begun to appear very close up, ie head and shoulders as opposed to full length. I'm finding this a bit unnerving. Is this anyone else's experience? Not sure if it means I'm opening up more.
Graelwyn
01-03-2011, 11:05 PM
I seem to be experiencing some of the more negative symptoms of awakening right now. I had not realised awakening could bring about so many different 'symptoms' for lack of a better term.
I am now experiencing major difficulties sleeping, for the last three nights. My body is itching like mad, even though there is no cause (no different food, no new washing powder etc) and then I am getting this static around my head... the very top of my head feels as if surrounded by energy/static electricity.
The insomnia and itching are driving me insane, I have never had this happen before, it is taking me up to 4/5 hours to finally drift asleep, whereas only 4 nights ago, I was fine.
As said, I am not even really doing anything to incite kundalini, simply have changed my way of being (dropped my defences, dropped my past issues, learnt to live in the moment and am studying life of Buddha).
Any advice, from someone who has had these issues, on how to lessen them ?
tainamom
02-03-2011, 01:07 AM
Since the start of my awakening I've seen visions of figures when my eyes are shut, but very recently they've begun to appear very close up, ie head and shoulders as opposed to full length. I'm finding this a bit unnerving. Is this anyone else's experience? Not sure if it means I'm opening up more.
I have to admit, I've only had this situation a few times where I'm able to see everything w/ my eyes shut, incl. other beings, but that was when i was in btwn sleep/awake mode. So it's not spontaneous happening when I'm awake. In the daytime, I pray not to receive any gifts that will hold me back from achieving Yoga and the gift of sight is one of them. I certainly don't want to see other beings. I'm not ready for that. :icon_eek:
For Graelwyn, I had sleeping problems b4 the awakening. I'd sleep on and off and it was unrestful. I was always tired. It wasn't until many classes, attunements, retreat, etc. later that I'm finally able to use the gifts given to help me sleep. I have no clue why it happens. I get itching, but that comes from the divine energy coming down. It's like a burning, itching sensation. I'm getting used to it, but sometimes it's uncomfortable. Kundalini burns, but I never feel itch from it. I can't explain why I know the source, but I know it's not Kundalini that gives me the itchies. Both energies feel completely different to me.
in progress
02-03-2011, 10:05 AM
Graelwyn - The energy can be rather hectic early on. I simply made up for it by taking more naps. The energy eventually settles down. Even when you do start getting more rest at night you'll still probably feel more tired in general anyway because the energy is busy changing you physically too.
I never had any itching associated w/ kundalini but I did feel the heat, particularly in my feet and hands. I remember looking at them at night in the dark thinking they must be glowing bright white w/ heat! The heat was the kundalini energy. I never experienced crown energy as other than vibration. The heat starts to subside too. I've noticed recently I haven't really been feeling the vibration anymore. As time has passed (for me about three years) the energy is becoming increasingly pleasant. Now it's tingly w/ a kind of a trickling electrical sensation or a gentle pulsation. It's still evolving!
Emmalevine
02-03-2011, 05:01 PM
Strange question perhaps but does anyone else get missed heartbeats when the kundalini is very active?
tainamom
02-03-2011, 06:41 PM
Strange question perhaps but does anyone else get missed heartbeats when the kundalini is very active?
I've been having irregular beats for years, pre-kundalini, which started at pregnancy. After trying different alternative health procedures w/ no success, I actually thought that after the attunement and awakening these irregularities would stop, but they didn't. I found that getting a hiccup or two usually stopped the irregular beats. I find the irregular beats that I still get stems from a deep negative emotional feeling that arises. I really can't seem to connect to it, but I'm getting close to the truth of it. Also too much cola soda/caffeine, hormonal issues and stress can do it for me. So, although it's possible that kundalini or other energy is fixing something up, I believe that deep inside the skipped beat is saying something to us. If it's a serious problem, speak to your doctor. (I know I did and got no help or answers, so I went alternative. My acceptance of it has gotten better now and it's not nearly as bad as before. I try to keep my stress levels and caffeine consumption low. I pray for negative emotions to be replaced w. love and light and there's not much I can do for the hormonal issues :D .)
Venus
02-03-2011, 07:20 PM
Strange question perhaps but does anyone else get missed heartbeats when the kundalini is very active?
My 4th chakra started with irregular heart beats once in a while but when it fully became active because of (a long enduring trial of hardship) it felt like a electric current through my heart.The pain was so intense I fainted and it continued after waking for an hour.Have not had any problems since and I was nervous so went to get my heart checked out and it was strong.It never hurts to check it out but it is probally spiritual for you.Thanks for sharing this is really a great post.
Emmalevine
02-03-2011, 07:52 PM
Thanks peeps. Well the difficulty is, I already have heart problems that result in palptations and missed beats, but I have noticed an increased in the missed beats when my Kundalini is especially active (ie lots of visions, energy sensations around my crown etc). It would be difficult, scientifically, to find whether my missed beats are anything abnormal since my heart already behaves abnormally, but I do think the increase in missed beats is due to the Kundalini.
Emmalevine
03-03-2011, 02:16 PM
Another strange question - does anyone else with awakened Kundalini frequently dream about spiders? I've never dreamed of snakes but spiders often appear in my dreams, usually associated with my fear of the visions I'm seeing.
Venus
03-03-2011, 03:23 PM
I dream about spiders and they crawl across my bed at night as visuals.They feel comforting though.I consider them one of my totems so I look at them as creation.Never had a nightmare always good vibes.Ooops, yes I did have a funny dream once .I was in a nightclub and baby spiders came out of my mouth.I went to brush my teeth and when I looked in the mirror a huge one covered my mouth.A friend walked in and said "finally a black widow" then I walked out dressed in a negliche and proceeded to vomit out a rat and centipede.I looked at it as a cleansing.I believe the spider purifies you and detoxify's you.This happened many years ago when I became vegan and I had been doing yoga 12 years.I think spiders are a good thing.
sabda
05-03-2011, 01:44 AM
great way to awake the kundalini and main chakra in your body is by meditate surrounded by nature. if you succeed your aura will be great and strong. visual about animal somehow happen if you learn certain culture or pagan, it may happen, but mostly to awake the kundalini just by meditate.
luvblooms
14-03-2011, 05:29 AM
Greetings...
I'm not an expert on Kundalini but I wanted to open a thread where I and others could share our knowledge and experience of it.
Kundalini is a spiritual fire energy that in most people is dormant from birth and lies curled at the root of the body until something - a meditation practice, a soul mate meeting, or some other catalyst - activates it.
The energy then 'wakes up' and begins to move upward through central energy channels called the Sushumna, which is alongside or inside the spinal cord... and Ida and Pingala, which spiral around the sushumna in a double helix. (Like two serpents, the form of DNA, and the medical symbol, the Caduseus.)
The kundalini flow moves up through each of the chakras in succession until it reaches the crown. This takes place in a number of stages, which vary from one person to another.
When this is going on... usually for a few weeks or months... a person may have a variety of unusual sensations and experiences from time to time, such as the body heating or cooling, vibrations and shaking, stirred up emotions and moods, changes in diet and sleeping habits, rashes or illnesses, dreams and visions, a sense of expanded or deepened awareness, a change of interests, increased or decreased sexual involvement, and many other signs.
These come with varying degrees of discomfort, and sometimes can be quite frightening. With understanding that this is a valuable part of our spiritual awakening we can handle the energy shifts better and with less fear.
In addition, there are ways we can ease through them... with conscious belly breathing...and with becoming more present and simply accepting whatever is happening, realizing that it's temporary and won't last.
Kundalini awakes and arises as part of our spiritual awakening, and is not very predictable in its effects as each of us is a unique individual configuration of energy and consciousness.
It helps to realize that our higher self is in charge of our awakening and transformation. Gradually we can come to know our higher / true Self directly and intimately, and to trust in that.
Xan
Wow! So THIS is what is going on with me.
I can identify with MANY of these "symptoms".
About two months ago, I participated in an Energetic Activation with Jo Dunning (who is an amazing light worker). I had a list of things I wanted to gain from it. A huge list. Patience, physical healing, ability to help/heal others, etc.
Boy, has it sent me down a new path. I've got this insatiable thirst for learning. A yearning to be surrounded by like minded folks. A quest to discover natural "alternatives". Almost daily "moments of clarity". The light bulb keeps coming on!
I'd say the last month or so, I've been gravitating to the word Kundalini. I now know it was Guidance. I was interested in Kundalini Yoga, even though I do not do yoga, nor do I have the time to. I was interested in Kundalini "events" on facebook. I even almost bought a Kundalini Yoga DVD!
I am not going to stress over the finer details of this awakening process. As you said, for each, it is different. At least I can now identify with this process. I know that what I have been experiencing/going through is each of my chakras coming "awake". I have the hindsight and foresight.
I am very grateful for the ones who have taken time to provide this information to me (although I have not read all posts on this topic). I am very grateful to know I am on the right path. I am grateful for the Guidance and being able to recognize the Guidance.
I am so full of love and excitement.
Namaste!:love3:
luvblooms... Yes, it certainly sounds like you are being lead and cared for each step.
I have found the simplest and also most effective way of being in the process of spiritual awakening - kundalini rising and other elements - is conscious breathing down in the lower belly, below the navel and letting go with each exhale. It takes no special time or activities, just training your attention there.
A refinement of this is what I call Breathing Within... giving attention not only to your breathing but allowing your awareness to ease into a sense of quietness in your inner self.
blessings
Xan
Redrose
15-03-2011, 09:10 AM
Does anyone know of any brainwave mp3 to assist in awakening kundalini?
luvblooms
15-03-2011, 02:33 PM
Xan,
Thank you my friend.
Those are the two exact things on my agenda: that inner quiet and Breathing Within.
Love, Light, and Blessings to you.
john M
27-04-2011, 01:28 PM
For what it's worth...
Have meditated for many year, with trust and with openness.
Always experienced relaxation and internal support, occasionally more things.
From time to time "rod up the back" pressure up my spine forcing me to sit upright no matter what position I might have ben practicing in.
Starting at the base of my spine and moving upwards.
Many times just short journey upwards with associated experiences at different levels "chakras' reached.
Most problems at solar plexus - a conflict between effort and grace, my trying to achieve (experience) something and the grace current that lifts you anyway through trust and surrender.
At one point experiencing huge conflicting pressure at my solar plexus I had a vision of me swimming in an ocean of waves flinging me everywhere and anywhere and then me letting go and being carried in towards a golden beach.
At that point, I let go and went though and beyond the "ego" solar plexus and reached the heart and "saw" that I was the same as everything and everybody, burst out laughing at the beauty and simplicity of this reality and my stupidity to think or see otherwise.
Then continuing to breath in and out and trust, moved upwards to throat and forehead - between my eyes.
On reaching this spot I was flung backwards against the wall by the intensity of light. Never seen it brighter before, though I had seen and experienced light many time but not so physically. Always pulled back before, couldn't stand the beauty. Didn''t have the capacity in my poor small cup to accept the
bounty on offer.
"Looked" at my hands and saw light flowing from my fingers, "saw" the channels for light and energy in my body, understood why acupuncture meridians are where they are, because that's where they are. Fingers stiff because of the light flowing through them.
Heard trumpets, bells and elephants trumpeting - very loud, then
Then looking in 3 directions at once - backwards in time, now and forwards in time. Understood why Hindu god statues have three faces because that's how it is. Akasha. All records on experience in one place.
Could see anything I wanted. But I didn't want. I was detached, disinterested, awed.
I glanced back to my last life. I was detached, disinterested, blissed out.
Looked at my last life and entered it. shock of being in a different shaped body. Different fingers, body shape. It surprised me how familiar I was with "my" current shape. It was odd being me in a different shaped body.
But saw how "I" could be in any body.
Looked back further - couldn't be bothered.
Looked forwards. Still disinterested, But saw my future. Saw my death, Saw beyond.
But then was pulled further up
felt a ring forming around my head - nervous, frightened, but detached..ring at the back of my head, where the crown sits "understood why kings wear crowns, and why they are of the most precious metal and jewels and why they are that shape...because that is the real shape of the crown that sits there.
However when you have a hole in the top of your head with light pouring out of it upwards and outwards..a real crown sitting on "your"*head it's freaky and disconcerting.
But you don't have much choice if the energy is pouring out you have to go with the flow.
Hugely loud elephants trumpeting.
Then went out through the hole. Sucked out.
Saw forwards, backwards, sidewards and in every direction at once...merged.
When I came back I didn't want to, but had to.
Felt like i was leaving my mum, dad, brother sister wife and friend and lover all at the same time.
Didn't want to but had to.
Came back past angels and beautiful shapes and colours I never saw in this world or elsewhere.
Back into my body, breathed again. Had to. That's what this body does.
Opened my eyes. Stood up, Fell down. Had been sitting there too long and my legs had gone to sleep.
Never gone back there again. Had other different beautiful experiences.
Trust.
john M
27-04-2011, 01:28 PM
For what it's worth...
Have meditated for many year, with trust and with openness.
Always experienced relaxation and internal support, occasionally more things.
From time to time "rod up the back" pressure up my spine forcing me to sit upright no matter what position I might have ben practicing in.
Starting at the base of my spine and moving upwards.
Many times just short journey upwards with associated experiences at different levels "chakras' reached.
Most problems at solar plexus - a conflict between effort and grace, my trying to achieve (experience) something and the grace current that lifts you anyway through trust and surrender.
At one point experiencing huge conflicting pressure at my solar plexus I had a vision of me swimming in an ocean of waves flinging me everywhere and anywhere and then me letting go and being carried in towards a golden beach.
At that point, I let go and went though and beyond the "ego" solar plexus and reached the heart and "saw" that I was the same as everything and everybody, burst out laughing at the beauty and simplicity of this reality and my stupidity to think or see otherwise.
Then continuing to breath in and out and trust, moved upwards to throat and forehead - between my eyes.
On reaching this spot I was flung backwards against the wall by the intensity of light. Never seen it brighter before, though I had seen and experienced light many time but not so physically. Always pulled back before, couldn't stand the beauty. Didn''t have the capacity in my poor small cup to accept the
bounty on offer.
"Looked" at my hands and saw light flowing from my fingers, "saw" the channels for light and energy in my body, understood why acupuncture meridians are where they are, because that's where they are. Fingers stiff because of the light flowing through them.
Heard trumpets, bells and elephants trumpeting - very loud, then
Then looking in 3 directions at once - backwards in time, now and forwards in time. Understood why Hindu god statues have three faces because that's how it is. Akasha. All records on experience in one place.
Could see anything I wanted. But I didn't want. I was detached, disinterested, awed.
I glanced back to my last life. I was detached, disinterested, blissed out.
Looked at my last life and entered it. shock of being in a different shaped body. Different fingers, body shape. It surprised me how familiar I was with "my" current shape. It was odd being me in a different shaped body.
But saw how "I" could be in any body.
Looked back further - couldn't be bothered.
Looked forwards. Still disinterested, But saw my future. Saw my death, Saw beyond.
But then was pulled further up
felt a ring forming around my head - nervous, frightened, but detached..ring at the back of my head, where the crown sits "understood why kings wear crowns, and why they are of the most precious metal and jewels and why they are that shape...because that is the real shape of the crown that sits there.
However when you have a hole in the top of your head with light pouring out of it upwards and outwards..a real crown sitting on "your"*head it's freaky and disconcerting.
But you don't have much choice if the energy is pouring out you have to go with the flow.
Hugely loud elephants trumpeting.
Then went out through the hole. Sucked out.
Saw forwards, backwards, sidewards and in every direction at once...merged.
When I came back I didn't want to, but had to.
Felt like i was leaving my mum, dad, brother sister wife and friend and lover all at the same time.
Didn't want to but had to.
Came back past angels and beautiful shapes and colours I never saw in this world or elsewhere.
Back into my body, breathed again. Had to. That's what this body does.
Opened my eyes. Stood up, Fell down. Had been sitting there too long and my legs had gone to sleep.
Never gone back there again. Had other different beautiful experiences.
Trust.
in progress
27-04-2011, 04:27 PM
Fantastic!
in progress
28-04-2011, 09:55 AM
I had to come back and comment. Your post john was floating around in my mind yesterday.
I realized later as I was reading it I felt as if I was almost remembering similar things, kind of like a passing thought you immediately forget, wispy and ethereal. We all have what you experienced locked away in ourselves somewhere and I felt as if I almost touched it.
Thank you for sharing your experience.
CuriousVagabond
29-04-2011, 04:53 AM
I am very glad that this forum was made. I've been reading through some of the many posts and have gathered the knowledge I think I was meant to know. Thank you all!
I am 19, still trying to understand what's happening with me, surrounded by people that have not much of an idea of chakras or energies, all but a few who have helped me immensely.
To me, it seems like everything is coming together Now. I'm understanding why so many things have happened to lead me here, and there are so many things. I believe this might be my case, it might not, but I will keep it as a possibility.
It started with me purchasing a 30 dollar cut crystal quartz, which I would normally never spend that much on a crystal or precious stone. I instantly felt the energy it had when I picked it up. After that, I started getting a high pitch frequency in my head, I can't say it's in my ears, it's in my head, and it always gets louder at night. I read a quote that said "Courage is not the absence of fear, but the mastery of it" and I kept that with me. About a week ago, or 2, a day after I read that quote, I had a sudden jolt of energy and all my chakras were going off and it started with shaking of my body. I had went and got my boyfriend, because I feel like he keeps me grounded, and laid down as he stayed with me through the experience. I was twitching in my legs and my arms, and I was trying to move the energy up but I don't think I was ready but it was coming regardless. I decided to take a bath, stood up and felt like my body was extended, my arms and my legs, I felt like I was longer, it was strange... Then I had information into me and realized why monks work at high elevations. It was all so strange, that night. My ears were popping. I believe I'm still going through this, but the first major experience, I was so scared... I don't think it was complete, by any means, but the purpose was to bring my attention and awareness to it so I can find a way to understand it and learn how to react.
CuriousVagabond
29-04-2011, 04:54 AM
I must also say, I've had a sudden urge to become a vegetarian and fast lately. I had no idea why, other than I felt like it would purify me.
Wow, Curious... What an amazing, dramatic and beautiful awakening story!
For those who might be having "experience envy" these revelations usually come to us gradually, bit by bit. Either way, fast or slow, we can trust how it happens within each of us.
Xan
CuriousVagabond
29-04-2011, 07:53 PM
Thank you Xan! Whether it's a kundalini awakening or not, I feel like I'm definitely being pulled in some direction towards a higher me. It's a very positive, loving, empathetic, sincere feeling most the time. I believe this is going to be happening with everyone soon enough.
CuriousVagabond
30-04-2011, 06:26 AM
I have one question. Do you think it is related to an awakening to feel a heating effect through ones feet? It's been my left foot for the passed few days at random times, and it's always accompanied by some energy up through me, I usually feel it best in my 2nd chakra, in my tummy.
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