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Old 08-08-2017, 01:42 PM
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"You let go", "you are more free", "your nature"

IMO, it's not enough to use such terminology without explanation.
For me it's all mind. It's mind that lets go of identifying with what arises in mind. It is mind that is set free and the resultant mind is its true nature....
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Old 08-08-2017, 04:04 PM
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Yes I had it arise tonight so intense in feeling another persons deeper unease. Hers was so intense but she was in knowing mode (just speaking it out loud) but the feeling layer in her was like a ton of bricks coming at me (not realized complete in her). So I took the hit and let it open up my deeper intensity of unease in feeling, that I was still not balanced in..Boy was it intense, I wanted to take flight from feeling that in me, but I felt it and let it go. She was confused how something so intense could be over and done with fast as I was showing her.

Whatever you are talking about it certainly isn't informed by buddhism.
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Old 08-08-2017, 04:07 PM
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Notice each one of these are of the ego.
Which of course has nothing to do with buddhism. Why? Because there is no such thing as 'ego' in buddhism.

It is as always: people prefer to expound their private beliefs but ignore buddhism in this buddhist forum.
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Old 08-08-2017, 04:41 PM
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Unease.
That is dukkha.
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Old 08-08-2017, 04:45 PM
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What will be reborn, impermanence or the unease?.
What is reborn are one's unresolved emotional residues. This happens on an energetic level.
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Old 08-08-2017, 04:51 PM
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You are no longer controlled by them.

Moving beyond is freedom from such automatic responses and addictions.

It is all part of the path, the more and more you let go of stuff, the more you naturally are free from such desires and your innate clarity, bliss, your nature shines forth... Which is much better than the above..

If nothing else, when you experience silence, no such passion for form/things, desire for sex, restlessness and worry are going on. Each of the above are examples of one getting caught up in thoughts, desires, the local mind.
No longer controlled by them, yes. Free from desires, including sex, no.

What you describe is often a criticism of Buddhism, that one develops into a being with out emotional content, IOW a robotic existence.

Freedom from attachment to desire. If one can fulfill the desire without doing harm then do it. If not then do not nurture, hang on to, the desire.
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Old 08-08-2017, 04:54 PM
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Why Buddhism?

Because it is one 'religion', probably the only one, which has a sound intellectual framework to support it.
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Old 08-08-2017, 05:50 PM
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Why Buddhism?

Because it is one 'religion', probably the only one, which has a sound intellectual framework to support it.
Buddhism can be practiced as religion or as a discipline of rationality. If the latter it should not be called 'religion' because the latter is based on rational analysis but not belief.
The buddha taught wordlings/housholders on the one hand and his monks on the other hand completely different things. When talking to wordlings/housholders he mostly appealed to belief and when talking to monks he often - not always - appealed to rational analysis.
Believers will not attain cessations but they may attain (not necessarily do attain) 'the realm of gods' - metaphorically spoken - which of course is impermanent and has to be established again and again.
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Old 08-08-2017, 07:00 PM
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Which of course has nothing to do with buddhism. Why? Because there is no such thing as 'ego' in buddhism.

It is as always: people prefer to expound their private beliefs but ignore buddhism in this buddhist forum.

Of course there is..

Buddhism comes about it saying there is no real ego. Anatta, no self. Until we are trapped in the local mind/ego. It is the practices that lets one directly perceive the truth of no self.

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The foundation of the Buddha's teachings lies in compassion, and the reason for practicing the teachings is to wipe out the persistence of ego, the number-one enemy of compassion.

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Old 08-08-2017, 07:04 PM
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No longer controlled by them, yes. Free from desires, including sex, no.

What you describe is often a criticism of Buddhism, that one develops into a being with out emotional content, IOW a robotic existence.

Freedom from attachment to desire. If one can fulfill the desire without doing harm then do it. If not then do not nurture, hang on to, the desire.

Not saying sex is bad.

Nver meant that sex is bad, it is not. But if one is controlled by the desire, has the need to do so to feel accepted, complete, wanted, etc.. I think you know where I am going with this.. That is not a good thing.

Buddhism is far from some robotic existence.
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