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Old 05-06-2017, 04:56 AM
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hehehe... problem being we always try anyway and that always leads to leading people astray

On that point, you are absolutely correct.

However, a thread without words here might be difficult to sustain.

Nonetheless, one does find one's self getting quieter and quieter at some point as the words virtually always tend towards "leading people astray", as you duly indicated.
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Old 07-06-2017, 08:49 PM
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On that point, you are absolutely correct.

However, a thread without words here might be difficult to sustain.
yeah, for some reason we like to talk to each other
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Nonetheless, one does find one's self getting quieter and quieter at some point as the words virtually always tend towards "leading people astray", as you duly indicated.

hehehe!
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Old 26-06-2017, 04:25 AM
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As I pointed out in my previous post, that which is ultimate does not even say "I AM". The "I AM" is simply one gate-less gateway to that which lies beyond even that.

I'm not sure, but we may be saying the same thing in different words.


Yes the "I AM" is a gateway. But it is only one of many gateways. If you pass through the gateway of "I AM" you end up somewhere which is different to when you pass through other gateways.

Other possible gateways could be - the Divine Feminine acting as "the way and the life". Passing through Christ's door. Conscientiousness as the path. And so on.

What I complain about is that people state that "I AM" is the *only* gateway to God; whereas in fact there are many.

The East states that the "I" is consciousness. I state that I prefer to be conscious *of* "I". I personally think that God can be conscious of "I AM" just as much as we can be conscious of an object or another person. "I AM" is a state of awareness or consciousness - but God is conscious *OF* that state....as well as all the other states of being.
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Old 26-06-2017, 06:36 PM
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Yes the "I AM" is a gateway. But it is only one of many gateways. If you pass through the gateway of "I AM" you end up somewhere which is different to when you pass through other gateways.

Other possible gateways could be - the Divine Feminine acting as "the way and the life". Passing through Christ's door. Conscientiousness as the path. And so on.

What I complain about is that people state that "I AM" is the *only* gateway to God; whereas in fact there are many.

The East states that the "I" is consciousness. I state that I prefer to be conscious *of* "I". I personally think that God can be conscious of "I AM" just as much as we can be conscious of an object or another person. "I AM" is a state of awareness or consciousness - but God is conscious *OF* that state....as well as all the other states of being.

Honza hello there. That's very true. There are many gateways from your furthest point of origin...and all along the path.

Ultimately I believe since they all come to the same path, many view all gates as ultimately One, or as ultimately the same gateway, like a singularity cutting across all dimensions, no matter which of an infinite number of dimensions we came from.

But I also see your point as equally valid. There are still an infinite number of gateways, even to the same singularity or point. Thus, whilst all are ultimately the same, each is manifestly different or unique until and unless we are (each or all) at One.

Personally, I have always felt that honouring differences is overlooked far more often than honouring the sameness, which often amounts to a "whitewashing" of individual experience...and thus that is often where I bring my attention, for myself.

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Old 20-08-2017, 02:25 AM
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God told us himself his name was Jehovah...Although i think its possible that when Jehovah at the tower of Babel divided up the Jews into 12 groups and gave them all different languages there may be 11 other names for the one named Jehovah... neemish
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Old 20-08-2017, 04:32 AM
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God told us himself his name was Jehovah...Although i think its possible that when Jehovah at the tower of Babel divided up the Jews into 12 groups and gave them all different languages there may be 11 other names for the one named Jehovah... neemish

For the umpteenth time, there is deity in the Hebrew Bible with the name of Jehovah.
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Old 27-09-2017, 12:20 PM
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For the umpteenth time, there is deity in the Hebrew Bible with the name of Jehovah.

That sounds like a Freudian slip RabbiO......
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Old 28-09-2017, 04:02 AM
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That sounds like a Freudian slip RabbiO......

Actually it's what happens when the rabbi types on his ipad and doesn't double check to make sure all the words appeared.

I haven't fit into my Freudian slip in years, but I remain Jung at heart.
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Old 28-09-2017, 03:54 PM
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So what is it that we are not to take in vain? Jehovah? Yahweh? YWHW? I Am?
And what is to be hallowed?

Oh, sorry, did I just start a new topic?
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