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Old 01-06-2013, 11:28 PM
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Thank you Dear Sparrow.
There is a lot to think about in your answer to my question. And your reply is much appreciated.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:13 AM
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Dear Spirit Guide Sparrow,

Wonderful post!!

There’s a ton of great information here!

Thank you very much for the time invested!

With that being said - I’ve got a question if I may ...

I was recently contacted by a Spirit Helper who told me I had a deceased relative that was “trapped” and unable to move on because of something painful she was holding on to that happened 25 years ago before she died.

The Spirit Helper along with my Spirit Guide helped me contact my “trapped” relative. We were able to calm her down, I tried to send as much unconditional love and understanding her way through my words as I could. She finally moved on and is no longer trapped from what I’ve been told.

The Spirit Helper, before she left kept reassuring me that we’re all here in this physical reality visiting and not to hold onto anything negative because we’re all going “home” when our time is right.

My question is ... if someone passes away with an unresolved emotional issue and gets “trapped” as the spirit helper called it - are spirits “trapped” until they get help from an outside source or are they able to work things out emotionally on their own sometimes?

It concerns me a little hearing about my relative getting “trapped” in the afterlife and needing help.

I’ve always heard of lost souls but because this was a first hand experience with a relative that passed away it worries me a bit.

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Old 03-06-2013, 07:00 AM
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Dear Sparrow,

My father who has now passed, said he didn't believe in a god that it was rubbish...yet as a child(me) he would speak of leaving his body and being attached by a silver cord as he moved about outside of his physical body and travelling...my oldest sister(also passed over) also spoke of being able to do this (I have no recall of ever experiencing this, only some vibrations through my body upon waking during the night on occasion and only in the past 2 years)......

My father (who was an alcoholic) also spoke of dreams that came to pass, and as a consequence, i thought that it was a natural thing for people to do.....I also have had dreams that have come to pass and visits by guides (I didn't know at the time thats what they were) i never knew i was spiritual, but from a child i always had a 'knowing' of God,(which is strange considering my father was so against that notion) i didn't question it because it was natural for me I just knew like I know I breath air from a very early age. As i got older i started to doubt the knowing in the last 10-15 years, then it has come back to me ......I have become aware..


I lost my first husband in a road accident (32 years ago), but instead of blaming a god, i felt the presence of something that felt warm and i felt encircled by it....it felt warm and caring, and i felt this in my deepest times of sorrow......I even felt the warmth of touch on my skin upon waking as thought someone had been laying with me whilst I slept and wept during the night....this made me feel closer to God (whatever God is)....

I wrote this because of your post (SGS)about the etherial cord, and that confirmed what my father and sister spoke of.....it was always a natural part of conversation in our home....my father spoke of being attacked by dark things whilst in bed sometimes (which really scared me).....and after my husband passed, within a day my father seen him a physical looking apparition of him, in the back yard in the morning while he (my father was collecting fire wood) my husband spoke with my father briefly.....and my father was very shaken by it.
I grieved greatly for a long time, and my father one day said to me with tears in his eyes......." john has asked me to ask you to please stop, he can't go until you stop keeping him here".....I said no... i was very young at the time...I couldn't let him go. I sometimes wonder if the things my father experienced were the reasons that he drank so much, perhaps because he felt like he was haunted or something....im not sure.....

Im sorry for my mixed up post SGS..thoughts are just coming,(as they have a lot recently)...my question to you is....

Is it possible that i did actually feel engulfing 'wings' or arms of the Divine after his passing for comfort?.....the touch of another on my body after sleep is that possible or just my imagination in such deep sorrow?.......
Can we hold an essence close to us by grieving too deeply and therefore not allowing them to move on as they should? And, even though i have no recall of any experience leaving my physical body, do i leave during sleeping hours?.....
So many people speak of remembering and going into space and doing extraordinary things......yet even thought i come from a family that said it did this (like they were speaking about buttering bread) so naturally..I, and my other siblings haven't experienced it, or if they have, they've never said......my father could have said it because he was a drunk and crazy,(though he never drank during week days) but my older sister wasn't....she was as 'normal' as one could be.....so is there a reason why some may speak of it and know, yet others in the same family have no understanding at all of any of this......yet accept it......?
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Old 04-06-2013, 01:25 PM
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Dear Spirit Guide Sparrow,

Wonderful post!!

There’s a ton of great information here!

Thank you very much for the time invested!

With that being said - I’ve got a question if I may ...

I was recently contacted by a Spirit Helper who told me I had a deceased relative that was “trapped” and unable to move on because of something painful she was holding on to that happened 25 years ago before she died.

The Spirit Helper along with my Spirit Guide helped me contact my “trapped” relative. We were able to calm her down, I tried to send as much unconditional love and understanding her way through my words as I could. She finally moved on and is no longer trapped from what I’ve been told.

The Spirit Helper, before she left kept reassuring me that we’re all here in this physical reality visiting and not to hold onto anything negative because we’re all going “home” when our time is right.

My question is ... if someone passes away with an unresolved emotional issue and gets “trapped” as the spirit helper called it - are spirits “trapped” until they get help from an outside source or are they able to work things out emotionally on their own sometimes?

It concerns me a little hearing about my relative getting “trapped” in the afterlife and needing help.

I’ve always heard of lost souls but because this was a first hand experience with a relative that passed away it worries me a bit.
Dear Spirit Wanderer, and an appropriate name it is too.

First of all my friend, let me address a brief initial misconception of embarrassment I am to address for you.
Should you be communicated with while in the shower or during some other natural activity, whether of a nude state of not, be at ease from all embarrassment or insecurity. For it is the spirit world do not concern themselves with what you are wearing, or not wearing, for they observe you as not as you see yourself in the mirror, but as a luminous cloud of energy. They observe you within a transparent state, which illuminates to them the vibration of your thoughts and feelings, rather than your tan line or some other mundane aspect of physicality. Just as you as a human being would think nothing of a fox, a bird or a fish in their natural exposure, this is the same way in which the spirit world perceive you.

Your spirit helper is correct to relay that your time in physical state is indeed simply a brief visit. With this said, this does not make the consciousness you coat yourself in any less impact or influential upon your soul journey.

Now for your question.

What occurs to these unfortunate souls is that they become fixated on unresolved matters of their human journey, their story, their definition of who they are. They attach strands of energy to material possessions and material people which do not release in their possessive attitudes of mind. It is not so much they have become trapped within a specific place, but they have become isolated within their own attitudes of mind, and their cyclical emotional states become a form of sustaining nourishment which they become subservient to. It is this subservience to their attitude and emotion that envelopes them into their own private universe.

First of all know that it is not their spirit which is trapped, for such a thing is impossible. The spirit is that essence of you which in its purity and perfection remains always, in all ways, free and joyous. It is the attracted cloud of consciousness, your human persona and memory mass which alienates itself from its core source, your spirit. Because it does this, it also alienates itself from the rest of the spirit world.
What spirit guides tend to try to do is they look for opportunities to place things in front of those unfortunate souls to trigger new thought processes or thought associations towards higher vibrations. They try to trigger association within their cellular and consciousness memories to do with very loving familiarizations, such as loved ones or former pets. As soon as their thought fixation changes, this opens doors which allow access from the spirit world to come in and become visible to that soul. For example, as soon as they think of their deceased mother or father in loving fondness, they will usually manifest in front of them and escort them into the spirit world. This is often a problem for the spirit world if that soul did not hold any close connection with very many others who have since passed. It is difficult for their spirit guides to manifest to them because that soul has no former memory or association with which to open doors for them to become visible. It is at such times when those in physical state are closer to their vibration and in a better proximity to get through to them.

While most of the time souls of the Earth tend to eventually break free from their isolating attitudes and ascend back to their source, there are those who are so lost within themselves that they simply refuse to acknowledge any other supporting presence around them. To human state and mind, sometimes this can feel like an eternity in isolation. Sometimes for hundreds of years. However, from the place and state of the spirit where time has no relevance this becomes only a minor absence from the rest of their divine celestial journey. For it is, all spirit continue to prosper regardless of what its limbs of consciousness are doing at any point within time.

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Old 04-06-2013, 01:49 PM
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I reciprocate with words of love and light dear Dragonfly,
Do not apologise for the fluency of feeling or expressivity of emotion you have relayed.

It is perfectly possible and most probable that you were blanketed by the loving intentions of both your former husband, your father, but as well, your doorkeeper who is with you always. At times when you feel a subtle change in temperature, a subtle contact to the skin, or a patch of hair suddenly reacts, this is occurring due to their vibration interacting within your energy field. In such case, they are using your emotional energy, as well as your electromagnetic energy to create these senses of physical touch. Understand your emotional energy can be both a doorway of contact and communication, as well as a barrier and blindfold for you.

In respect of the passing souls of others, you cannot hold back or prevent another from transitioning. More accurately, they themselves will interfere with their own transition after becoming aware of your emotional state. Their sense of duty and responsibility becomes an anchor of intention which traps their available perceptive choices to fixate on the grieving. In a sense they feel responsible for that grief and try their very best to alleviate it in those they have left behind. Because they are attuned to your emotional vibration, in having a relationship with you, this means they are forever aware of what you are feeling. You are not grieving for that soul, for they are in a much better place than you are; you are grieving for yourself and your own condition. Grieving a loved one will always push them further away from you, for the vibrations between you become much more distant and incompatible. It is only by letting them go can you hope to bring them closer to you in ways you would never expect or dream.

In the second aspect of your query, I respond that all beings traverse other dimensions, other vibrations in their dream states. Not only in their dream states but in their waking states as well. When you have a daydream, or find your focus detached from your immediate surroundings, you are in fact entering another dimensional state. It is here you are more receptive to the spirit world. Not all experiences in physical state my dear friend exist for the benefit of your conscious state. Many of the ‘goings on’ exist and take place for the benefit of your spirit and its other energy personas. In such case friend, such memories will never register within the conscious mind, simply because they resister on another memory vibration. You may in such cases simply register within you a sense of déjà vu, or a sense of residual energy change where your thoughts feel lighter and more harmonised.

It is never wise to consume alcohol while reaching out to the spirit world. The substance greatly effects your chemical and vibrational frequencies. It also attracts unwanted attention you wouldn't want around you.

I alight this exchange with fond feelings.
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Old 04-06-2013, 02:14 PM
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Dear Sparrow,

I have read this thread with great interest and am grateful that you have posted here so that we may wonder and learn. Thank you for the information about how spirits see us--that we need not worry if we're unclothed when they communicate, for example. Thank you, too, for the information about grieving and how it effects our connection to those who have transitioned.

I have some questions about EVP--electronic voice phenomenon. After my son died, I spent some time trying to contact him through EVP and I was, I believe, sometimes successful.

There was one response that says, "This is ****[name of my son]" and that was followed by someone else saying "sending." Are there technicians that help spirits send their evps? At the risk of asking something that is beyond my understanding, how does that all work?

There is another clip where my son (I think?) says, "Physics has it fixed, Mom." I'm thinking he's talking something about how we can communicate through evp.

There's another clip that says, I think, that they (his friends? his spiritual group?) are grateful that he (my son?) has come out." Come out from where? My son committed suicide. Did he go away somewhere to recover from that? Or did he isolate himself for awhile as he tried to come to terms with what he had done?

Where does the evp communication come from? Does it come from the astral plane? Why can I contact him at some times and not at others? I last got messages that my son wasn't there. Did he move beyond a place where I could contact him? Does that mean another reality? Another universe? Does it mean he has progressed?

One message I got was "she's getting booked here." I think one person was telling another that when I "called" (did evp) my messages went to that particular station. Is that correct?

I guess I'm wondering two basic things: how does evp work, and what is the likely experience of someone who has committed suicide from the point of their death?
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Old 04-06-2013, 05:09 PM
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Dear Sparrow,

I have read this thread with great interest and am grateful that you have posted here so that we may wonder and learn. Thank you for the information about how spirits see us--that we need not worry if we're unclothed when they communicate, for example. Thank you, too, for the information about grieving and how it effects our connection to those who have transitioned.

I have some questions about EVP--electronic voice phenomenon. After my son died, I spent some time trying to contact him through EVP and I was, I believe, sometimes successful.

There was one response that says, "This is ****[name of my son]" and that was followed by someone else saying "sending." Are there technicians that help spirits send their evps? At the risk of asking something that is beyond my understanding, how does that all work?

There is another clip where my son (I think?) says, "Physics has it fixed, Mom." I'm thinking he's talking something about how we can communicate through evp.

There's another clip that says, I think, that they (his friends? his spiritual group?) are grateful that he (my son?) has come out." Come out from where? My son committed suicide. Did he go away somewhere to recover from that? Or did he isolate himself for awhile as he tried to come to terms with what he had done?

Where does the evp communication come from? Does it come from the astral plane? Why can I contact him at some times and not at others? I last got messages that my son wasn't there. Did he move beyond a place where I could contact him? Does that mean another reality? Another universe? Does it mean he has progressed?

One message I got was "she's getting booked here." I think one person was telling another that when I "called" (did evp) my messages went to that particular station. Is that correct?

I guess I'm wondering two basic things: how does evp work, and what is the likely experience of someone who has committed suicide from the point of their death?
Dear Dee47,

Thank you for your interest in our dialogues. Just as those who watch over you observe with interest your posts here on this internet forum.

EVP is a platform where thought is configured to travel through electromagnetic and other energy carrier waves by manipulating the energy within the physical environment in which you are apart. Envelopes of thought from other dimensional beings, whether they are of the spirit world or simply from elsewhere in the cosmos, are reconfigured upon specific wave lengths which are known to register upon such electrical devices and apparatus. This was something which was initially picked up by scientific community of the spirit world and is something which they themselves are experimenting with. What you may find is that members of this scientific community will volunteer their understanding and application of physics to harness this mechanisms of communication. Some appear to have discovered this facilitation by their own means, usually by some degree of desperation. Since it becomes apparent to many souls that electrical and electromagnetic energy waves are manipulated by their intentful activity. In the same way the electromagnetic field around your body can be manipulated to cause you to feel touched, prodded, stroked and in some cases scratched.

This ‘coming out’ reference will likely refer to your sons self imposed isolation of attitude and anguish which often follows suicide. The fact and sign of him being around others during this communication is a good sign that he has since left this imposed isolation and accepted his guides presence.

EVP is quite difficult for those in the spirit world to maintain to any consistent degree as it requires working with relatively dense energy which is persistently changeable all of the time. Those closer to the Earth vibration find this task easier because their thoughts are more aligned to that registry than those who are closer to their spirit source.

You do not need these devices for your son to hear you, remember that.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:25 PM
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Thank you, dear Sparrow, for taking time to respond to my question, and for answering so quickly, too. Your response makes sense to me and it very helpful. I will continue to read this forum because I find it so enlightening.

Peace to you.
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Old 05-06-2013, 01:17 PM
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Dear Sparrow,
Thank you with much gratitude, for your kind response to my post... I also thank you for your candid response to my words and thoughts and feelings...it has given me clarity and food for thought; as always with your words....thank you again, and many blessings ..
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:20 PM
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Spirit Guide Sparrow,

Thank you so much for the responds and for clearing up my confusion. It didn't even dawn on me that spirits see us differently than we see each other or ourselves.

As always you've explained things with great clarity and shed some light on the subject.

Thank you again for all the time you continually invest answering our questions.
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