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03-10-2011, 12:12 AM
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I see.
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energy is motion.
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04-10-2011, 03:08 PM
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Energy creates motion.
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05-10-2011, 10:46 PM
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Energy creates motion.
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of course, motion creates motion.
to answer what creates motion, you must go to wave mechanics, since the basic motion of the universe appeared to be vibration/oscillation.
in wave mechanics, there is the ...
1. wave medium (the substance that gives mass)
2. the motion (energy) of the medium
3. and the wave patterns created. from the patterns we have geometry, mathematics and logic.
motion is created by the interactions of the three.
as to why the medium moved in the first place ( called prime mover in philosophy) no one knows therefore it's god will, hehe
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06-10-2011, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by hybrid
of course, motion creates motion.
to answer what creates motion, you must go to wave mechanics, since the basic motion of the universe appeared to be vibration/oscillation.
in wave mechanics, there is the ...
1. wave medium (the substance that gives mass)
2. the motion (energy) of the medium
3. and the wave patterns created. from the patterns we have geometry, mathematics and logic.
motion is created by the interactions of the three.
as to why the medium moved in the first place ( called prime mover in philosophy) no one knows therefore it's god will, hehe
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Isn't Energy a form of energy yet not anything particular?
I just thought it's the ability to do work... so 'potential for change'... but energy does nothing but change form/transfer. 'Potential' refers a momentarily frozen (still) universe.
The Prime mover... it just comes back to uncertainty where from nothingness can come the minmal quanta.
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06-10-2011, 09:33 AM
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Isn't Energy a form of energy yet not anything particular?
I just thought it's the ability to do work... so 'potential for change'... but energy does nothing but change form/transfer. 'Potential' refers a momentarily frozen (still) universe.
The Prime mover... it just comes back to uncertainty where from nothingness can come the minmal quanta.
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energy is an abstract concept
potential is an abstract idea
capacity is an abstract idea
uncertainty is an abstract idea
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06-10-2011, 09:48 AM
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energy is an abstract concept
potential is an abstract idea
capacity is an abstract idea
uncertainty is an abstract idea
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It has to abstracted anyway, because we can only define things and I can't remember who said it but 'physics isn't about the universe itself, it's about what we can say about it.' (or something ike that).
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06-10-2011, 11:38 AM
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It has to abstracted anyway, because we can only define things and I can't remember who said it but 'physics isn't about the universe itself, it's about what we can say about it.' (or something ike that).
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yes but if you think energy is just motion and not some stuff, those abstract ideas make sense.
1. motion give rise to potentials
2. motion has the capacity to do work
3. motion leads to change
4. scalar motion makes thing uncertain.
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11-10-2011, 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by hybrid
yes but if you think energy is just motion and not some stuff, those abstract ideas make sense.
1. motion give rise to potentials
2. motion has the capacity to do work
3. motion leads to change
4. scalar motion makes thing uncertain.
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Yes there is change or motion it's not a different thing, so in terms of energy there is transfer which can be called interaction, and that's basically the same too.
Uncertainty is to do with the limitation of formative thought... in the way that thought is a quality which can only be defined (quantified) within contextual limitations.
If you think about it, infinity is the function of formal limitations, making its quantity undefinable.
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13-10-2011, 04:00 AM
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Yes there is change or motion it's not a different thing, so in terms of energy there is transfer which can be called interaction, and that's basically the same too.
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interaction is the result of motion. change is the result of interaction. transfer of energy is motion.
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Uncertainty is to do with the limitation of formative thought... in the way that thought is a quality which can only be defined (quantified) within contextual limitations.
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uncertainty is a result of not knowing. and not knowing is a result fundamentally of an infinite number of inputs that prevent the certainty of any result.
this infinite inputs has something to do that the superposition of waves are infinite in numbers since a principal wave creates secondary waves and interact with each other and in-turn create another secondary waves and interact ad infinitum.
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If you think about it, infinity is the function of formal limitations, making its quantity undefinable.
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infinity that is unending numbers of finite things is a result of infinite interaction of waves that creates unending number of particles.
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