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Old 16-08-2019, 05:30 PM
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btw......there is a difference between being a god and being God. That is why mystics pursue the unitive state.
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Old 16-08-2019, 06:32 PM
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It doesn't matter what island a person comes from. We should free everyone. Not just Will.
Hello???... aren't you a little late to the party. Will is short for Willy, and he was freed years ago.
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Old 16-08-2019, 06:35 PM
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Actually more are awakening every day from my perspective.
How do you know you aren't just getting sleepier and sleepier?
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Old 16-08-2019, 06:46 PM
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There is free will.
It is not always free. There are costs at times.

When One reaches the state of Union with Divine Love
then One can only do what Divine Love does.
A slave to Divine Love or God or Creator, this is our greatest free will desire.
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Old 16-08-2019, 07:12 PM
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re free will...……."Don't you know we are gods?".....this is the actual basis for half the people on these forums who claim to be god.....:)

We have choice to be gods if we would. God allowed gods to be. That's why there are many gods. Because he allowed it.thats free will. Amen
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Old 16-08-2019, 07:16 PM
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Free will and choice go hand in hand but one requires to know consciously all the facts to know if the choice they are consciously making is through an immediate choice or a choice that has already been made. A choice that has already been made due to past actions or not.

Did one’s past actions come about through free will or were they because of previous actions prior to that lol ..

It really is like a game of chess and at some point in the game you only have a few pieces left to move ..

Do you have free will to move your knight, when you have no knight to move?



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Old 17-08-2019, 11:41 AM
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According to this guy, over 90% of people don't have free will because they're living on autopilot and in their "island of comfort".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32dq4cJhl2U
What he's talking about is Life's Purpose. Karmic Obligations or whatever else you care to call it. "We are here to learn the lessons" works just as well. It's not some kind of far-out Spiritual concept and the theme of the video is very common. If Spirituality is to be believed then we signed up for this. The you have the threads which ask about the reasons why God allows such suffering. This is what people do with Free Will. People hurt others because God gave them the Free Will, and God gave the people who can't understand the Free Will to not want to understand. So while God gives us Love under Free Will he's crying in his beer and banging his head on the table. Or he's laughing his cotton socks off at the irony of it all. Thinking that you don't have Free Will is Free Will.

You're working on autopilot more than you think you are, because you don't make conscious choices - your subconscious makes choices and then 200ms later (although the times do differ according to study) you become conscious of it. Oh, and ignoring that because it's not labelled as Spiritual is also Fee Will, but actually it's a choice that your subconscious has made for you in the shape of a survival mechanism. It would give some people a headache to think about or it would cause conflict in their reality so best to ignore it.
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Old 18-08-2019, 05:12 AM
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- your subconscious makes choices and then 200ms later (although the times do differ according to study) you become conscious of it. Oh, and ignoring that because it's not labelled as Spiritual is also Fee Will, but actually it's a choice that your subconscious has made for you in the shape of a survival mechanism.

Your subconscious taking over/making choices might be true for a lot of people but not all. In fact in a book I read, a spiritual practice was to direct the subconscious to override anything that wasn't coming from the Higher Self. I would disagree that it's a survival mechanism.
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Old 18-08-2019, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
There is free will.
It is not always free. There are costs at times.

When One reaches the state of Union with Divine Love
then One can only do what Divine Love does.
A slave to Divine Love or God or Creator, this is our greatest free will desire.
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Free will does exist............. but then..........

As we become familiar with other members, do we not know how some will respond to our post before we post it?

As computers get faster, cheaper and memory gets faster, cheaper and the computer program can use more memory,
we will reach a period were computers can predict what we will do in the future based on past and future history.

If we are highly predictable, do we really have free will?
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Old 18-08-2019, 06:36 AM
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Free will does exist............. but then..........
Ones you realise that 95% of your actions and reactions to things come from your subconscious " super computer" and start to see that "resistance is futile" you can start learning "the way".
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