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Old 03-09-2011, 12:38 PM
seahorse
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"I know surrender and am trying to do this" who knows my friend. Maybe the whole point could be "never surrender"
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Old 03-09-2011, 12:40 PM
mattie
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Experiences

I’re read that in the course of our experiencing humanity at one time or another in various lives & aspects we play out all the roles of humanity.

Before we incarnate here we choose the lessons we want to learn/master.

We often look at things we consider tragic & feel they are unfair, but unfair is a human feeling. It is likely the Universe looks at things we consider tragic as simply a different type of experience.

Those who are starving children have likely volunteered to have this experience to serve the useful purpose of bringing attention to this issue, to fuel change w/ their government, to help activate global empathy & compassion, etc. This isn’t to mean in any way that their choosing this experience means that we shouldn’t have compassion for them or strive to do things to end starvation.

Life isn’t inherently unfair. Many religions have promoted the supposed fact that our life here is supposed to be inherently crummy, relieved by their deity’s gift of heaven. Extreme sickness may be a choice we all get to experience in one life or another to see if we can connect w/ our HS despite our physical limitations.

Whether those who are suffering are evolved souls likely varies. We probably have a list of things that we need to master/learn/experience at each dimensional level before we can move to the next level. Some may choose to experience certain things at the beginning of their exploration of that D, while others may choose to have that experience at the end of their journey through that D. Like taking courses at a university to complete a degree, all that matters in the end is that the necessary courses were completed satisfactorily.
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Starbuck
Why do you think some people have relatively easy lives whereas others are hit by one tragedy after another, or spend most if not all their lives struggling with physcial or emotional problems? I don't mean those of their own making, but external difficulties which would distress anyone.

Are the people who struggle 'evolved souls'? Did they plan this before they were born? Or are their difficulties somehow the result of decisions made during this life? Or is it all just pure random luck (or bad luck)?

Why is one person born a prince and another a starving child who doesn't live past their fifth birthday?

Why is one person able to do everything he or she wants and dreams of, yet another spends their life too sick to comtemplate doing anything at all like he or she wanted to do?

Is there an order to this? Is it just the unfairness of life?

To live in distress and live in poverty are worlds apart. The philosophy the starving child is more evolved and the stronger soul choosing to struggle because they are means the prince is less and won't choose what seems to be their struggle playing out in reverse here in this plane. The prince having the greater role?

It is appropriate to say no one remembers.

Personally, I don't see having made but making the choice. Some would say karma applies and if so there are levels, individual, group, and world, but I think you will see we are evolving (souls). It is the choice now that gives me the problem. Observe, many of the things you see are man made. Part of the problem is our attitude, particularly of giving. Ask why we can't feed everyone and you'll be told simply there isn't enough for everyone. Not enough land, not enough can be produced to feed everyone and if you do you'll be hungry to. This is a choice to.

Governments, society, history, belief, culture all play into the struggle and people to. We aren't evolved spiritually enough whereas we we think we are. Regarding this choice.

Really it is the choice of now what you are to learn. I don't mean to bad mouth people but imagine if you were in heaven and you had the ability to choose, unless everything was provided we'd rebel. Consciously we work to keep things the same. We are a bit self destructive.

We are evolving spirituality and physically learning to become more like soul, potentially more. As more individuals change (not becoming more enlightened, but how to) so does the group and then the world silly as it sounds.
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Old 04-09-2011, 04:26 PM
sesheta
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To Starbuck

Your question is one I have often thought myself, so I feel exactly where you're coming from!
I am not even 40 years old yet, and have already been through a battle with cancer, the death of both of my parents, developing a kidney problem, now also my ex trying to commit suicide then running off and declaring bankruptcy, leaving me in financial ruin (this has actually all been within the past 11 years!)
Yes - there are days when I wonder why my life is so hard and such a constant struggle, when others around me seem to have it so much easier...but like they say....what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I firmly believe that. I also believe that many of our struggles are to constantly teach us that we ARE strong enough to overcome them. One foot in front of the other, forward march!
Hang in there; I have found that the support of family and friends has helped me so much; they have been such a comfort for me - don't be afraid to reach out and let them prop you up for a while.
This reminds me of a scene from one of my favorite TV shows: Babylon 5. One of the characters once said:
"I used to think that life was unfair. Then I realized that, wouldn't it be much worse if life WERE fair, and all of the terrible things that happen to us, come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe!"
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:13 AM
Jason72
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Could be a life long karma from your last life? (or 2 or 3 lives ago?) Maybe?
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