what is Duality and Non Duality?? And how does it affect the Afterlife??

[Inika]

It is not hard at all to grasp that concept. To believe it through explanation without experience and no certainty is what I struggle with. Personally, I'm not attached to any fear of never waking up after death to any consciousness at all nor am I attached to there being something further to exist in after my passing of this body. Acceptance of whatever is.

Thank you for your tolerance of my curiosity. And giving it one more shot

[acorn]

well if you are unattached either way...and you have acceptance ...
I'd say that your in a pretty good place :) ....take care

Love
acorn

[no1wakesup]

Acorn,

"does your centered sense of you have a body as your source ?...the body is concerned with annihilation.....it is a misperception...who or what is annihilated?"

The centered sense of a you and your body are interchangible. That which thinks (who believes itself the thinker of thought.. but which is really unconsciously recieving thought) has also established "this is my body". The body is not the source of anything, its a physical extension solidifying a "me" in here. A physical extention for a conceptual identity fueled by a perpetual thinking process.

That sense of separation collapses (the illusion of separation), once that conceptual process of the mind is found out or realized. That mind-body relationship is one unit. Without the ability to measure your world around you (mind) the sense of separation would never be there (body)

Thats what is annihilated. Yet that fear of annihilation is an illusion... because its based on a conceptual story of a separate me to begin with. The story makes you relevant, losing that would not make you un-relevant, the story of the all important me just wouldnt be there anymore (as duality would no longer be there).

[acorn]

Yes ..unconsciously receiving consciousness....hence the trouble


" A physical extention for a conceptual identity fueled by a perpetual thinking process. "...... ~(no1wakesup)
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What an awesome line..........made me laugh...

the scarecrow in the wizard ozz should have said that line when he received his diploma from the wizard....forget the triangle equation....lol...
say that line as the scarecrow .....it would have worked I tell ya

I guess I misunderstood your view in this....I hope it didn't come across as negative....it wasn't meant to be

Love
acorn

[no1wakesup]

Acorn,

The acorn analogy is an apt metaphor. That's it. Transparent.

Thanks.

[Shivani Devi]

To be in a non-dual state at the time of death means you don't care if there's an 'afterlife' or not because 'life' and 'death' are dualistic principles anyway.

This is how I look at it. The goal of this life is self-liberation/enlightenment because nobody knows for certain whether there is/not an 'afterlife' and it's hoped that the immersion of consciousness within the Divine Abstract would prove to be so much of a diversion, the question would be rather moot.

[muffin]

And what if you had to go thru death, to see what life is really about ?

Life as you think it is, death, life as it really is.

Death is a cleansing, nothing more.

[firstandlast]

It effects us heavily.

It is a matter of perception. That when we see two, where there is truly one; than the order in front of us is decieving. The otherside is in front of us, which means the order of life and death is not as it necessarily seems to be, and when we dont understand this, or support an order of myth that does not serve everyones highest self, our natures cannot be sustained as a whole being. Immortality is not a matter of fear, fear is a part of us as a whole being. So to go to the other side is not as it appears; but that the drive of fear in immortality is that reaponse to any state of limitation to act according to your true nature and your greater self forces orders of corrupted morality, ao that no real agreement can be truly agreeing as it means to be.

[sea-dove]

I think duality and non duality can be explained in just two words

Separation/Oneness

[Divine Consciousness]

Originally Posted by Inika

Since none of you are dead? Im guessing. All you have are words and no evidence to prove your words are true, maybe someone elses words from an experience no one else could know but them (convenient)? I dont believe what you are trying to lie to me about is truth unless you are typing from a consciousness far out in the sky (riding a unicorn) while your dead body lay in a morgue. I think its a concept, a belief. That soothes you somehow and that is all.

Deare Sister Inika,
There is believed that apart from exist as human kin, every individual kin has its eternal existence too.
This djaegaentic creation this multiverse is believed to be expanded from source. This source is single unit, source unit of whole creation.
To reach to this source again, person perform meditation of non-duality.
Duality is our separate physical existence and nonduality is treating ourself part of this djaegaentic creation and this creation is our part, absorbing everything.

Now science too acknowledges paranormal existence then why you wish to go scientifically other way? Don't you believe in ghost? there are many ghost hunting scientifically part of science. This I don't wish to frighten you but answering your query that is there after death life.

Nonduality means you are part of this huge creation and this huge creation is your part.