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Originally Posted by Baile
... my own experience with Universal Consciousness has been mostly fleeting. I will say though that appears to be changing for me, as my connection and commitment to The Living Stream becomes stronger.
What I experience is obviously different than the complete and permanent God-union transformation Buddha and Christ-Jesus underwent. Nevertheless my understanding along with my own experience leads me to believe this in fact is a gradual soul-recognition process, taking place over many lifetimes, and will eventually lead each human soul to that Gnosis Buddha-Christ state of consciousness.
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Riffing on the muse-ical 'stimulus' provided by the above words, sometimes in syncopated
counterpoint, Baile:
I would caution against the 'temptation' to idolize or idealize the
purported "complete and permanent God-union transformation" of the likes of Buddha or Jesus (or
any other purported 'avatar' for that matter).
Buddha, for instance, willfully left (hence 'abandoned') his wife and children to pursue what he thought was more important. Souls today recognize that such
abdication of existing personal family response-abilities is
not the most psychologically and socially 'healthy' (or wholesome/holistic) thing to do - quite the contrary, actually.
I also feel confident in stating that,
if he were to reincarnate/return today, based on what the Roman Catholic 'Church' historically ended up becoming and doing (the Inquisition, for
just one glaring example!) Jesus
also wouldn't now repeat 'errors' such as endorsing empowering someone (in this Peter) as 'the rock' on which "I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and
whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and
whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." (Matthew 16:18-19) - this, of course, assumes that reports that he thought this way and said these word weren't
just 'made up' to 'suit' Peter and those who were 'picked' to be his 'heirs'.
The point being that Jesus and Buddha were
not "completely"
holistically all-knowing and all-wise in
every way - they were 'human'
like you and I!
My crusade against 'mindless' acceptance of 'advaita'-based revelations and teacher/teachings is
similarly based on unbiased (i.e.
non-
idealizing)
observation, IMO. The whole caste 'system' in/by which people were relegated to socially subordinate roles - so-called 'untouchables'
for instance being unconscionably (IMO)
used to do 'dirty' jobs as sewer cleaners, etc. - was a
direct result of (
false and
unholistic, IMO)
rationalizations that what happens in the context of folks 'worldly' lives is
just a 'dreamy' 'illusion' and that the 'awful' stuff that 'happened' to people therein was something that was
their personal-soul 'earned'
karmic due - as
clearly implicit in
supposedly fully-enlightened-'avatar' generated adhere-
strictly-to-what-'I'-say scriptural statements
such as: "Those who thus hate Me, who are cruel, the dregs of mankind, I condemn them to a continuous, miserable and godless rebirth.
So reborn, they spend life after life, enveloped in delusion. And they never reach Me, O Prince, but degenerate into still
lower forms of life. ... But he who neglects the commands of the scriptures, and follows the promptings of passion, he does
not attain 'perfection', 'happiness'
or 'the final goal'. Therefore whenever there is doubt whether thou shouldst do a thing or not, let the scriptures guide thy conduct. In the light of the scriptures shouldst thou labor the
whole of
thy life.”
It took people like Gandhi who incorporated Jesus's (
non-advaitist!) teachings into his Advaita and Gita based philosophy to start a movement aimed at
really[!]
liberating the Indo-human Spirit by inducing people to treat people of
all 'castes'
equally and
stop self-contentedly regarding and relating (actually
not relating!) to the lives of (so-called) 'untouchables' as they
traditionally (unquestioningly? mindlessly? habitually?) did.
IOW, Baille, I suggest that
you regard the way in which
you regard yourself
and relate to
The Living Stream of Life as
right-here right-now being
just as 'god-union' and '
complete'-devotion potentialed (
as well as possibly being
as 'ignore-ant' and 'blind')
as Jesus and Buddha and said 'avatars', and [b]so[/] (in
good conscience!)
never being self-complacent (as many here clearly are!) and being
ever self-examining in terms of the
possibility that there
may be even 'better' ways to
maximally augment your and others' Life-Flow than one is presently doing (as many here clearly
egotistically aren't!) -without thinking or feeling that you are any 'less than' Jesus or Buddha was in
their day.
My 'sense' is that you are already personally doing what I personally recommend - just a bit distracted as a result of being unduly 'star-struck' in the preceding regard.
More discussion of
practical down-to-earth [i]issues[/u] relating to the
personal experience and expression of Life-Flow to come - my 'wad' in this regard is shot for now!
, let me just say the above -expressed 'intent' unloosed a veritable 'flood'-flow of thoughts pertaining to the subject as well as made me 'groan' 
at the thought of trying/aiming to collate these in a follow-up post.
Linear Mode
