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Old 07-01-2023, 01:29 PM
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the presence of form in any realm or domain signals unfulfilled desire’ or words to that effect.

Even in the highest heavens spirits have bodies. But they can dissolve their bodies into pure light. This they do occasionally. At all other times, they have a form that is distinguishable from the forms of others.

Even Jesus has a form and he is the highest of all the created beings.
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Old 07-01-2023, 03:30 PM
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@ Saurab ~ given that we have incarnated thousands of times on earth or other domains in both genders, perhaps in different shapes, to which form shall we cling?
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Old 11-01-2023, 06:09 AM
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Control is an illusion. Too many people think of themselves as human doer’s instead of realizing that the human condition is a state of being and not a state of doing.

All we do is open our heart and close our heart, and what we open up to will influence us. Be it alcohol, food, negative or positive thinking, etc. Your bladder will tell you when you have to pee, and you can only resist peeing for so long.

But what if there is no bathroom around, you are still going to pee. Your bladder is going to make you pee and you have no other choice. This analogy can be applied to just about anything else.

It applies to anger, sex, or anything else we have allowed to come in and control us. Self mastery involves staying centered and quiet inside regardless. We really do not have to add anything to our lives; the purity of divine spirit is always with us inside, although we may have covered it up with all sorts of stuff.

When we wash our clothes we add a detergent to loosen and wash away the dirt, well it’s the same way with us, the detergent is meditation, although it is also helpful to develop a conducive lifestyle for spiritual development. Meditation unaided may not blossom as quickly, it is helpful to develop a lifestyle that supports our meditation practice.

I have been doing quiet meditation pretty regularly for more than 45-years. Through my meditation practice learning how to move energy around within my physical body has increased. This is helpful if you want to project your spiritual energy. When emotional issues arise you just use your attention to move them out of the way. Although examining your anger and other emotional issues, and learning what is behind them, can also be very helpful. Concentration techniques, like samadhi, done on a regular basis can pierce the veil of this physical existence.
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Old 11-01-2023, 06:45 AM
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Omg I SO AGREE with you Starman.

Thanks for that post. Love it!
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Old 11-01-2023, 07:00 AM
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focus on the feeling and let the whole feeling come out in awareness.
In these cases, usually it means not a real-world feeling but an emotional mess that is imagined within the reactive dynamic of me, and since the individual has given much importance to this so called feeling, they pay special attention to it in the hope that it will disperse in the light of conscious awareness, but should they investigate a bit closer, they realise that they harbour an aversion toward the feeling along with the desire that it need be other than it is. Thus they identify the underlying reactive dynamic itself. Hence the individual may not only resolve a particular issue, but address the underlying craving that created it in the first place, and hence discontinue creating these issues at all.
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Old 11-01-2023, 08:12 AM
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Omg I SO AGREE with you Starman.

Thanks for that post. Love it!

IMO I agree with you that you agree with Starman but that's just IMO
am I allowed to shout IMO or should it be imo, lowercase. Anyway in my
humble opinion I agree with you that you agree with Starman. Forgive me
I'm just not used to saying IMO although I've been here for 10 years and I have
probably only said IMO in two posts out of over 2000 posts. But to cut it short I agree with Starman but because you agreed with him I agree with you. ok.

Ps. I'm not really sure I should use IMO as it's a bit obvious it's my opinion isn't it, as it's My Post ! Ah well !

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Old 11-01-2023, 12:22 PM
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IMO I agree with you that you agree with Starman but that's just IMO
am I allowed to shout IMO or should it be imo, lowercase. Anyway in my
humble opinion I agree with you that you agree with Starman. Forgive me
I'm just not used to saying IMO although I've been here for 10 years and I have
probably only said IMO in two posts out of over 2000 posts. But to cut it short I agree with Starman but because you agreed with him I agree with you. ok.

Ps. I'm not really sure I should use IMO as it's a bit obvious it's my opinion isn't it, as it's My Post ! Ah well !
Wow, not cool, Joe. I know you thought you were being funny.

This is an example of mocking this Forum's request to not state things as fact,

but rather say,'' imo or I believe", for example.

Do you know why? Because people come here searching, troubled, confused and unstable often, some suicidal....when they read something like:
''There is no god, so it doesn't matter", which has been said here ...said as absolute fact...they can have, let's say, a confused reaction, to say the least.

You see, what is obvious to most as opinion, is NOT obvious for some people.
The intention here is to be sensitive to these people.
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Old 12-01-2023, 02:33 AM
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Wow, not cool, Joe. I know you thought you were being funny.
This is an example of mocking this Forum's request to not state things as fact,
but rather say,'' imo or I believe", for example.

Do you know why? Because people come here searching, troubled, confused and unstable often, some suicidal....when they read something like:
''There is no god, so it doesn't matter", which has been said here ...said as absolute fact...they can have, let's say, a confused reaction, to say the least.

You see, what is obvious to most as opinion, is NOT obvious for some people.

The intention here is to be sensitive to these people.
Hello

That is fine.

We are dealing with a lot at home right now with the EX's estate and the stress from that. Too I am int inventory at work.

My neck is killing me so its all good.

You deal with what you feel you must. I trust you.

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Old 12-01-2023, 08:05 AM
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Re Joe Mc and Miss H

Thank you Miss H for your comments. A lot of truth in them

JoeMc. It’s ok I didn’t get offended. Thought it was funny actually.

However regarding IMO. You have a good point saying, ……..why say it when it is obviously our opinion cos we are writing it.

So from my personal point of view I put it in because I don’t want people to think that I am an authoritive type of person whose views are a FACT and it just adds a bit of humility to our comments which in turn, tells people that we are approachable and accepting of THEIR views even if they differ from ours. Well that’s how I see it anyway.

Of course Miss H I definitely agree with what you said about other peoples feelings. That makes total sense.
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Old 12-01-2023, 10:49 AM
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Emotional control can be an illusion, depending on how you approach it. By using willpower to try to dim them you may be suppressing things which isn't healthy.

When I'd done intuitive development courses (lots of work on the 3 first chakras) I began to notice it no longer took me days to recover from something upsetting. It got shorter and shorter. At first maybe a day, then half a day, then hours, and sometimes mere minutes.
This wasn't by suppressing or willpower but by having healed/worked through the issues and having harmonised the first 3 chakras where such emotions reside AND having learnt to properly ground & shield.

Fastforward over a decade... Joe Dispenza saying, "It's not about not having emotions, it's about the refraction time. In other words, how long does it take to recover."

When you're at that point, fast recovery, the impact of negative emotions is less. They aren't so intense anymore. Things that used to be all-consuming for days become a minor annoyance.

So it's not about trying to will them away, which essentially is rowing against the current, exhausting, and not really solving the problem.
It's about getting to a higher vibration by working through the issues -mostly first 3 chakras.
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