What do you think of this

[keokutah]

Originally Posted by Thunder Bow

....."Sirian and Pleadian are all new age terms, but both of these ET's were notoriously known in native culture, long before new agers made them popular. "........

This New Age appropreation of Native ways I do not approve of. Or the Hollywood ET space alien interpretation of our stories and ways. I will not let New Age people or Hollywood define us, or our stories. When I asked you about your user name, you told me you were not Native.

You never asked me what race I was at least I don't remember that. I am native american and irish, a half breed, adopted though so im actually considered metis here in canada. I am a heyoka medicine person despite being younger than most and mixed race, I led sweatlodges for the longest time, which I don't do anymore.
Anyway, I have nothing against any other culture, religion or faith, because there are all pretty much the same, but I do find it weird how new agers borrow things from ancient cultures but only take little bits of it without truly knowing what it really means.

[keokutah]

Originally Posted by Eyeland

I would really like to know more about this, thank you in advance. I always felt i come from Sirius and felt a very strong soul link to Native Americans. What are the characteristics of a thunderbeing, this word also resonated so much in me the second i read it...like a latent piece of my soul suddendly sprung in life or something. I don't know why, i feel your words carry a different vibration from many on this world. Thank you for your time.

You probably are sirian and maybe even a thunderbeing if you feel it so strongly . Always listen to your instincts and heart knowing.

The thunderbeings are a group of ET warriors, more like peace warriors and they help assist the earth changes and anything that involves the earth, they create storms and earth disasters that help in cleansing and puryifing and protecting the earth and they work with angelic beings and elemental realm beings that also assist with the earth. They sometimes assist humanity but mostly care about assisting the earth itself.

That's why in myth they are portrayed as very powerful, like the giant Thunderbird who creates thunder and lightning or the Phoenix that spreads its firey flames of transumation all over the earth. They say, you don't want to contact Thunderbird unless you want to experience transformation and transformation can be painful sometimes.

The thunderbeings all look different though, most can shapeshift into dragons or winged beings or whatever they want. The culture is where native american culture came from, so that's where the use of animal masks came from, which is why the sirian's can easily shapeshift form or they can appear to be half human-half animal, or just have the head of a raven and the body of a man, like seen in ancient egyptian drawings of the gods. They use the masks to help them shapeshift form.

The destruction that creates peace is a job only a thunderbeing can do, because storm energy is a very transformative energy that can easily destroy someone who is not used to it.

If you are a thunderbeing, you would be called Heyoka in native culture. Of course some people think only full blooded native have that right, but I do not believe that at all, because I know that the Sirians consist of mixed races, there is a lot of interaccial dating if you know what I mean lol. So that's why a lot of people think the Sirians are pleadian and vice versa. But the original race that is Sirian are the brown skinned ones that I'm talking about. They are actually a lot taller than native people here on earth. The pleadians have the blue skinned gene which does not exist here on earth anymore, it's easily bred out, but from interaccial mixing, you can get all shades of blue skinned people living on Sirius. The white gene came from the Lyrans. Sirius is basically a planet full of all kinds of races, in other words, but the oldest race has always been the brown skinned ones, same as it has been here. Most people there are mixed race, so if you are ET then you are also probably mixed race now. I call myself sirian because it's what I identify with mostly, but the truth is I am mixed race there too and have two sets of parents there, just as I do here. If you are very connected to it, you are probably mixed race as well. Starseeds and ET walk ins can only "incarnate" into bodies that share the same DNA as their ET bodies. That probably sounds confusing.

Heyoka people are very unorthodox, often considered eccentric, different, truth speakers, but sort of backwards, notoriously known to be great warriors and leaders, sometimes very powerful and even feared because of their power and spiritual abilities. They experience much suffering and darkness, just to be able to become the ultimate healer and lightworker and to be able to handle transformation energy without it harming them.

In general, the Sirian warriors communicate telepathically and are very calm, yet once you get to know them they are very loving and can be very energetic. They love sports, they love food, and they have very healthy sexual appetities, which is the same for most of the sirian culture, and at the same time are extremely spiritually advanced.

[running]

Originally Posted by keokutah

You probably are sirian and maybe even a thunderbeing if you feel it so strongly . Always listen to your instincts and heart knowing.

The thunderbeings are a group of ET warriors, more like peace warriors and they help assist the earth changes and anything that involves the earth, they create storms and earth disasters that help in cleansing and puryifing and protecting the earth and they work with angelic beings and elemental realm beings that also assist with the earth. They sometimes assist humanity but mostly care about assisting the earth itself.

That's why in myth they are portrayed as very powerful, like the giant Thunderbird who creates thunder and lightning or the Phoenix that spreads its firey flames of transumation all over the earth. They say, you don't want to contact Thunderbird unless you want to experience transformation and transformation can be painful sometimes.

The thunderbeings all look different though, most can shapeshift into dragons or winged beings or whatever they want. The culture is where native american culture came from, so that's where the use of animal masks came from, which is why the sirian's can easily shapeshift form or they can appear to be half human-half animal, or just have the head of a raven and the body of a man, like seen in ancient egyptian drawings of the gods. They use the masks to help them shapeshift form.

The destruction that creates peace is a job only a thunderbeing can do, because storm energy is a very transformative energy that can easily destroy someone who is not used to it.

If you are a thunderbeing, you would be called Heyoka in native culture. Of course some people think only full blooded native have that right, but I do not believe that at all, because I know that the Sirians consist of mixed races, there is a lot of interaccial dating if you know what I mean lol. So that's why a lot of people think the Sirians are pleadian and vice versa. But the original race that is Sirian are the brown skinned ones that I'm talking about. They are actually a lot taller than native people here on earth. The pleadians have the blue skinned gene which does not exist here on earth anymore, it's easily bred out, but from interaccial mixing, you can get all shades of blue skinned people living on Sirius. The white gene came from the Lyrans. Sirius is basically a planet full of all kinds of races, in other words, but the oldest race has always been the brown skinned ones, same as it has been here. Most people there are mixed race, so if you are ET then you are also probably mixed race now. I call myself sirian because it's what I identify with mostly, but the truth is I am mixed race there too and have two sets of parents there, just as I do here. If you are very connected to it, you are probably mixed race as well. Starseeds and ET walk ins can only "incarnate" into bodies that share the same DNA as their ET bodies. That probably sounds confusing.

Heyoka people are very unorthodox, often considered eccentric, different, truth speakers, but sort of backwards, notoriously known to be great warriors and leaders, sometimes very powerful and even feared because of their power and spiritual abilities. They experience much suffering and darkness, just to be able to become the ultimate healer and lightworker and to be able to handle transformation energy without it harming them.

In general, the Sirian warriors communicate telepathically and are very calm, yet once you get to know them they are very loving and can be very energetic. They love sports, they love food, and they have very healthy sexual appetities, which is the same for most of the sirian culture, and at the same time are extremely spiritually advanced.

What your saying about the energy from the storms is what i experience. Its very powerful and puts you at your limit mentally and physically running energy with them.

There is nothing more powerful for growth than connecting, and being with them imo. To me its worth more than anything else i know of to connect with them.

For me i can say most of my growth is through a oneness with them. The energy in my experience works its way through you. It is enjoyable and painfull. The body at least for me takes time to acclimate.

But there is no end to the power that wants to be with you from them. So no matter how deep i become with that enerfy, there seems to always be more available

In my experience i see no end to it. As i say on this forum a lot. The energy working through me feels powerful. Im aways radiating a joyful intoxication. Its been non stop for a numher of years now. . Some think im crazy but it is what it is. And its endless joy. I have met some others whom have the same experience.

As far as im concerned. Whats in the sky is me or an extension of me. Cause i cant stop exeriencing it if i tryed.

[Thunder Bow]

Originally Posted by keokutah

You never asked me what race I was at least I don't remember that. I am native american and irish, a half breed, adopted though so im actually considered metis here in canada. I am a heyoka medicine person despite being younger than most and mixed race, I led sweatlodges for the longest time, which I don't do anymore.
Anyway, I have nothing against any other culture, religion or faith, because there are all pretty much the same, but I do find it weird how new agers borrow things from ancient cultures but only take little bits of it without truly knowing what it really means.

I remember specifically asking you about your user name, and you said it is a name of a charactor out of an Hollywood western. You never said you were breed NDN as well. I distinctly remember asking you if you were native. You no longer have my trust.

[keokutah]

Originally Posted by Thunder Bow

I remember specifically asking you about your user name, and you said it is a name of a charactor out of an Hollywood western. You never said you were breed NDN as well. I distinctly remember asking you if you were native. You no longer have my trust.

Are you serious? Go back and read the thread, you never once asked me what race I was besides I'm not sure why that even matters.
If you can't find it here is our conversation:

This is what you said:

"@Keokutah

What does your user name mean?

Religion is boring because it is all about control. Most spirituality is about control, thus it is boring.

Long winded rambling spiritual posts such as yours and others can be boring. Rambling head centered talk can be boring. Talk that does not come from the heart is boring.

If Donald Trump looked at those reading this thread he would say:

"look at them, they are sleeping!"

What does You "name" mean?

My answer is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNM4MYco-jc

Thunder Bow

This is a video I made using my photography and video. On location. I this this this answer will be better than explaining my spirituality in long winded text."

And this is what I said:

"Thanks for sharing, that's one of my favourite songs, if i remember right its called Sunset Ceremony by David and Steve Gordon right? That's a very nice video you made.

Do you do any dancing yourself? That would be a good way to make spirituality more physically stimulating, because dancing can be very sacred and a good way to connect with spirit and what not.

I'm just looking for ideas on how people make their spirituality more physically exciting and stimulating.

Oh and my name basically describes my life path or could mean working one or something like that. It was also in a book my parents really liked, I can't remember the name but I think it might of been a Lois Lamour book, western or something."

You never once asked me what race I was, maybe you just assumed. And again I'm not sure you read my post right, because I am not full blooded ndn, I am mixed race. I do not know much about irish culture but from what i know about it, it is also very rich.

[keokutah]

Originally Posted by running

What your saying about the energy from the storms is what i experience. Its very powerful and puts you at your limit mentally and physically running energy with them.

There is nothing more powerful for growth than connecting, and being with them imo. To me its worth more than anything else i know of to connect with them.

For me i can say most of my growth is through a oneness with them. The energy in my experience works its way through you. It is enjoyable and painfull. The body at least for me takes time to acclimate.

But there is no end to the power that wants to be with you from them. So no matter how deep i become with that enerfy, there seems to always be more available

In my experience i see no end to it. As i say on this forum a lot. The energy working through me feels powerful. Im aways radiating a joyful intoxication. Its been non stop for a numher of years now. . Some think im crazy but it is what it is. And its endless joy. I have met some others whom have the same experience.

As far as im concerned. Whats in the sky is me or an extension of me. Cause i cant stop exeriencing it if i tryed.

Yes it is very intense! Sounds like you are having a great experience with it though.

[Thunder Bow]

Well....it seems you never mentioned your Nation (if indeed you got any ndn blood in you). Thus my "assumption" is justified. I had to dig through your non sense in your thread. It is also true, you never said your were breed ndn. By asking about your movie user name, I was asking if you are Native. Now I ask you: What is your Nation??? I do not think "sirian" is an Native Nation.

I also ask:

What is a Heyoka Medicine Man?

Why are you proclaiming this Online?

What do you know about the Thunders?

This all sounds like very fishy New Age stuff to me.

Is this your flying saucer ?

[keokutah]

Originally Posted by Thunder Bow

Well....it seems you never mentioned your Nation (if indeed you got any ndn blood in you). Thus my "assumption" is justified. I had to dig through your non sense in your thread. It is also true, you never said your were breed ndn. By asking about your movie user name, I was asking if you are Native. Now I ask you: What is your Nation??? I do not think "sirian" is an Native Nation.

I also ask:

What is a Heyoka Medicine Man?

Why are you proclaiming this Online?

What do you know about the Thunders?

This all sounds like very fishy New Age stuff to me.

Is this your flying saucer ?

What is your problem? You seem like a very angry person.

I already told you my nation, the buffalo nation, otherwise known as Cree, when i said I led sweatlodges for a long time. That is a CREE custom.

And yes those are new age terms, which I also already said! I believe in my native culture as well as everything else. You are very offensive trying to tell people that new age stuff is wrong. You do realize that most new age stuff stems from ancient beliefs anyways, right?

And you obviously don't know much about your own culture if you seem to think native people don't believe in ET's, because it's a huge part of our traditions and stories.

If you want to know what I know about the thunderbeings and the heyoka, then read my posts in this thread, I explained it all already.

And if you wanted to know my race, you could have just asked me. I'm not sure what my name has to do with the colour of my skin!

[Makoiyi]

Oki Thunder Bow and Tansi Keokutah,

Thunder Bow I think you know me and my heritage and my intentions well enough by now, and Keokutah for your info I'm Canadian First Nations.

Respectfully guys whilst I can see both points of view here and I'm not here to get involved, this sure doesn't look good on main forum though especially from an NDN point of view. It might be best to keep this to Pm's or in private in the chat room until you've figured it out.

I'm happy to talk with either of you if you want, just pm me.

Makoiyi

[keokutah]

Originally Posted by Makoiyi

Oki Thunder Bow and Tansi Keokutah,

Thunder Bow I think you know me and my heritage and my intentions well enough by now, and Keokutah for your info I'm Canadian First Nations.

Respectfully guys whilst I can see both points of view here and I'm not here to get involved, this sure doesn't look good on main forum especially from an NDN point of view. It might be best to keep this to Pm's or in private in the chat room until you've figured it out.

I'm happy to talk with either of you if you want, just pm me.

Makoiyi

I have no clue why that person is being so hostile to me, but I have not done anything to deserve it so give me a break.