Why do we forget?

[Tobi]

When we choose to come to live a life on Earth, why do we forget all/much of what we have known in our spirit-state?
We are spirits, having a physical experience. And presumably we have had hundreds of these experiences before. Plus we may have spent a long time in the spirit world before re-incarnating. A lot longer (in Earth-years) than we have ever spent here. A lifetime is such a short span.

So why do we all get this amnesia? And have to work so hard to be aware of things -which apparently will all come flooding back to us quite well, when we pass again through the gates of 'death'?

Hello Tobi,

I think it's something in the coding of life, death and rebirth, before getting put into a new machine the old hard drive gets formatted/wiped of all data, but it's comforting to know there are traces left behind, shadow copies, accessible in dreams and regression hypnosis and the like(consciousness excursions).

The pre birth memory wipe seems mandatory but it never seems entirely 100% successful. Or so it would seem.

[Tobi]

Yes Neville, I suppose that does make some sense. And I suppose the plus side is we all get a shiny new hard drive!

[Rawnrr]

we "remember" what gets imprinted on our physical brain.
The past life experiences are not imprinted there, we may catch glimpses of them when we recognize something similar in this life, and that is because those similarities are allowing that reflection of the past life to filter through from our overall consciousness into the ready awareness of our mind/brain interaction.

[muileag]

Originally Posted by Neville

Hello Tobi,

I think it's something in the coding of life, death and rebirth, before getting put into a new machine the old hard drive gets formatted/wiped of all data, but it's comforting to know there are traces left behind, shadow copies, accessible in dreams and regression hypnosis and the like(consciousness excursions).

The pre birth memory wipe seems mandatory but it never seems entirely 100% successful. Or so it would seem.

I'm taking a break from grading and put on Vivaldi's "The Four Seasons" before logging into the forum. Reading your response while listening to the first concerto just blended together into a moment of beauty; I literally have a huge smile on my face

Originally Posted by Tobi

When we choose to come to live a life on Earth, why do we forget all/much of what we have known in our spirit-state?
We are spirits, having a physical experience. And presumably we have had hundreds of these experiences before. Plus we may have spent a long time in the spirit world before re-incarnating. A lot longer (in Earth-years) than we have ever spent here. A lifetime is such a short span.

So why do we all get this amnesia? And have to work so hard to be aware of things -which apparently will all come flooding back to us quite well, when we pass again through the gates of 'death'?

One possibility is this spirit state doesn't exist. That's boring though! I've thought long and hard about why anything exists at all, and it seems likely to me that reality exists to be lived through by whatever made it. We are tied to our minds, reason, etc simply because the eternal wished to be temporal.

Both seem equally likely to me.

[Albalida]

A new life means you get a fresh outlook on things (even if, because of a previous life, you don't get an entirely new start).

If you had a problem with alcoholism in a previous life, it wouldn't be constructive to keep the memory of that. The addictive impulse wouldn't go away, but getting addicted to alcohol wouldn't be the first thing you'd consider if you don't remember that that's what you always did. You could get addicted to something else, or notice that you have that impulse and try to deal with the stressor some other way. For example.

[Ascension]

We forget , to not be hurt
When we remember , we heal .

[God-Like]

Just try and imagine the wealth of knowledge and experience one has had through countless lifetimes . Try and entertain every identity self has related too . Try and fit all that within your current awareness of what you relate your self to be today ...

Some can handle it some cannot .. From this perspective one could quite possible loose the plot .

There comes a time where what was previously beyond one's awareness comes to the fore ...

Nothing is hidden from anyone without a reason, the reason will be self related ..

In other words you only remember what you need to remember, some can refer back to their own book of life and take a glimpse at a page or so, some get to see more ..

You don't tell a 2 yr old about the workings of the universe because it doesn't need to know yet .. at a time the child can figure it out for themselves 'if and when ever ready' .

Same goes for everything that is within self that one doesn't yet realize or remember .. When they are ready and if need be, all will be revealed ..


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[Fairyana]

Sorry this is quite long, but it answers the question really well, in my opinion.

Forgetfulness of the Past

392. Why does the incarnated spirit lose the remembrance of his past?

"Man cannot, and may not, know everything; God, in His wisdom, has so ordained. Without the veil which hides certain things from his view, man would be dazzled, like one who passes suddenly from darkness to light. Through the forgetfulness of his past a man is more fully himself."

393. How can a man be responsible for deeds, and atone for faults, of which he has no remembrance? How can he profit by the experience acquired in existences which he has forgotten? We could understand that the tribulations of life might be a lesson for him if he remembered the wrong-doing which has brought them upon him; but if he forgets his former existences, each new existence is, for him, as though it were his first, and thus the work is always to be begun over again. How is this to be reconciled with the justice of God?

"With each new existence a spirit becomes more intelligent, and better able to distinguish between good and evil. Where would be his freedom if he remembered all his past ? When a spirit reenters his primitive life (the spirit-life), his whole past unrolls itself before him. He sees the faults which he has committed, and which are the cause of his suffering, and he also sees what would have prevented him from committing them; he comprehends the justice of the situation which is assigned to him, and he then seeks out the new existence that may serve to repair the mistakes of the one which has just passed away. He demands new trials analogous to those in which he has failed, or which he considers likely to aid his advancement; and he demands of the spirits who are his superiors to aid him in the new task he is about to undertake, for he knows that the spirit who will be appointed as his guide in that new existence will endeavour to make him cure himself of his faults by giving him a sort of intuition of those he has committed in the past. This intuition is the evil thought, the criminal desire, which often come to you, and which you instinctively resist, attributing your resistance to the principles you have received from your parents, while it is due in reality to the voice of your conscience; and that voice is the reminiscence of your past, warning you not to fall again into the faults you have already committed. He who, having entered upon a new existence, undergoes its trials with fortitude, and resists its temptations to wrong-doing, rises in the hierarchy of spirits, and takes a higher place when he returns into the normal life."

If we have not an exact remembrance, during our corporeal life, of what we have been, and of the good or evil we have done, in our preceding existences, we have the intuition of our past, of which we have a reminiscence in the instinctive tendencies that our conscience, which is the desire we have conceived to avoid committing our past faults in the future, warns us to resist.

394. In worlds more advanced than ours, where the human race is not a prey to our physical wants and infirmities, do men understand that they are better off than we are? Happiness is usually relative; it is felt to be such by comparison with a state that is less happy. As some of those worlds, though better than ours, have not reached perfection, the men by whom they are inhabited must have their own troubles and annoyances. Among us, the rich man, although he has not to endure the physical privations that torture the poor, is none the less a prey to tribulations of other kinds that embitter his life. What I ask is, whether the inhabitants of those worlds do not consider themselves to be just as unhappy, according to their standard of happiness, as we consider ourselves to be according to ours; and whether they do not, like us, complain of their fate, not having the remembrance of an inferior existence to serve them as a standard of comparison ?

"To this question two different answers must be given. Three are some worlds among those of which you speak the inhabitants of which have a very clear and exact remembrance of their past existences, and therefore can and do appreciate the happiness which God permits them to enjoy. But there are others, of which the inhabitants, though placed, as you say, in better conditions than yours, are, nevertheless, subject to great annoyances, and even to much unhappiness, and who do not appreciate the more favourable conditions of their life, because they have no remembrance of a state still more unhappy. But if they do not rightly appreciate those conditions as men, they appreciate them more justly on their return to the spirit-world."

Is there not, in the forgetfulness of our past existences, and especially when they have been painful, a striking proof of the wisdom and beneficence of Providential arrangements? It is only in worlds of higher advancement, and when the remembrance of our painful existences in the past Is nothing more to us than the shadowy remembrance of an unpleasant dream, that those existences are allowed to present themselves to our memory. Would not the painfulness of present suffering, in worlds of low degree, be greatly aggravated by the remembrance of all the miseries we may have had to undergo in the past? These considerations should lead us to conclude that whatever has been appointed by God is for the best, and that it is not our province to find fault with His works, nor to decide upon the way in which He ought to have regulated the universe.

The remembrance of our former personality would be attended, in our present existence, with many very serious disadvantages. In some cases, it would cause us cruel humiliation in others, it might incite us to pride and vanity in all cases, it would be a hindrance to the action of our free-will. God gives us for our amelioration just what is necessary and sufficient to that end, viz., the voice of our conscience and our instinctive tendencies. He keeps from us what would be for us a source of injury. Moreover, if we retained the remembrance of our own former personalities and doings, we should also remember those of other people a kind of knowledge that would necessarily exercise a disastrous influence upon our social relations. Not always having reason to be proud of our past, it is evidently better for us that a veil should be thrown over it. And these considerations are in perfect accordance with the statements of spirits in regard to the existence of higher worlds than ours. In those worlds. in which moral excellence reigns, there is nothing painful in the remembrance of the past, and therefore the inhabitants of those happier worlds remember their preceding existence as we remember to-day what we did yesterday. As to the sojourns they may have made in worlds of lower degree, it is no more to them, as we have already said, than the remembrance of a disagreeable dream.

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