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31-10-2023, 01:16 PM
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I did include the words "it seems" and "I think" into my OP. But yes, I could have been less bold in my statement. Apologies.
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31-10-2023, 06:01 PM
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I did include the words "it seems" and "I think" into my OP. But yes, I could have been less bold in my statement. Apologies.
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Hi Honza... I don't mind, but it seems to be a 'rule' (not sure where I can read it though) yet people everywhere, including here, state things as being total truths (thread title included).
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31-10-2023, 06:57 PM
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I did include the words "it seems" and "I think" into my OP. But yes, I could have been less bold in my statement. Apologies.
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Yes, you did.  Thank you.
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Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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31-10-2023, 07:00 PM
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Reminder: Got problems with Staff decisions? Fine, don't bring it onto the Thread - pm the Admin or me about it.
It's even in the Rules.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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04-11-2023, 06:34 AM
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Maybe God exists for those who need it and does not for those who don’t need it.
Just a thought tho.
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04-11-2023, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Honza
God is *all* of us put together. So while someone like Sai Baba says "I Am God" everyone else is thinking "who is this guy?". It seems that the whole of us (or God) can never quite agree on anything. Everything is in dispute. From politics, to religion, to philosophy etc. There is no whole agreement anywhere. Is reality confused? Yes, I think is the answer.
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It's got to do with self-imagery. Who is that guy, it's just some guy, I don't know him. People have ideas that there's a structure in which positions exist, and the word 'baba' names such a position. It's a permanent 'symbolic body' which a succession of living bodies are required to fill. Like a king. There is no king per se. There's a socially sanctioned narrative about a king, and different living bodies are born and die whilst the construct of 'king' remains a cultural constant.
If a baba claims 'I am God', or a Christian claims 'Christ is God', it's little more than semantics, and because it's fundamentally meaningless, people don't disagree as such, but they apply various meanings. The issues arise when people give undue importance to the discursive construct because their own self-image is entwined with the story that is essential to our own position within the overall cultural paradigm. We want the constant 'symbolic body' since our live body is, in fact, ephemeral.
In short. You and me play characters in a story and that's fine, but it's unimportant. It's like Bond, James Bond is fine, be it Connery, Moore or Craig. 'Who they are' doesn't matter. They are born, live and die as Bond remains continuous.
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04-11-2023, 09:21 AM
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Maybe God exists for those who need it and does not for those who don’t need it.
Just a thought tho.
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I understand that thought. My thought is:
''One day they will, oh boy, will they.'' 
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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04-11-2023, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Gem
If a baba claims 'I am God', or a Christian claims 'Christ is God', it's little more than semantics, and because it fundamentally meaningless, people don't disagrees such, but they apply various meanings. The issues arise when people give undue importance
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In your opinion only.....
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04-11-2023, 09:33 AM
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Maybe God exists for those who need it and does not for those who don’t need it.
Just a thought tho.
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If it works like that then the Tooth Fairy also exists.
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04-11-2023, 10:06 AM
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If it works like that then the Tooth Fairy also exists.
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True. Imagining someone exists does not make them real.
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