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19-05-2014, 12:04 PM
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But, Morpheus, belief/faith IS simplistic. The complexity/doubt/conflict comes from religions.
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19-05-2014, 02:04 PM
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Seawolf, I think we half agree. Most people have a personal belief system and that is how it should be - personal. The problems come when an "organisation" is built with "rules", "punishments", "judgements" and [finally] the worst of the lot - priests/imams, etc.
Individuals do not need priests to "intercede", they do not need extensive structures for formal, complex rituals. The evil lies in the regimentation of Faith !
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Reminds me of the Dalai Lama, he always seems to get ancy in formal religious ceremonies. He wants to move around and smile at people. 
For some, formal ceremonies are a very spiritual experience though, I think some people prefer them and others don't.
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19-05-2014, 02:48 PM
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 Dali Lama is a living "emoticon" ! A fiercely intelligent man too.
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19-05-2014, 03:19 PM
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Dali Lama is a living "emoticon" ! A fiercely intelligent man too. |
He's indeed an intelligent man. I'll never forget what he said in an interfaith summit that had leaders from different religions. He said he was not for uniting religions, but rather appreciating their own individual unique qualities (which is what interfaith is). I've always felt the same way and don't feel the need to put all religions under the umbrella of my own belief system, saying they're really just trying to grasp or point to what 'I' believe.
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25-05-2014, 07:50 AM
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True Sea.
Nevertheless, it is bourne out that at their essence, they are in agreement. First and primarily, that Life is more than this transitory, superficial, and temporary organic and physical manifestation.
And also that God is. Even in Buddhist teachings.
All of which leaves atheism in the dust.
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Eternity does not start with death.
We are in eternity now." - Norman Vincent Peale
"There is no place in this new kind of physics for both the field and matter, for the field is the only reality." - A. Einstein
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25-05-2014, 08:46 AM
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And also that God is. Even in Buddhist teachings.
All of which leaves atheism in the dust.
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Your argument is flawed.
Just because 2 separate beliefs concur, that does not make them right.
Absolute monarchies and dictatorships both agree that there should be no elections. If your logic is followed through then democracy would be left "in the dust." |
25-05-2014, 09:03 AM
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Religion is Spirituality in stasis !
[ Who said that ? Oh, it was me ]
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