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Old 14-07-2018, 10:03 AM
Baile Baile is offline
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Originally Posted by Busby
Ideas alone don't come from the mind.

Everything does.
If that's what you truly believe Busby, then you have never had a mystical experience. Religious and spiritual teachers throughout the ages have spoken about the mystical union, or vision, or inspired revelation that comes from outside of us; from Spirit, or God, or however one speaks of that.

Like your other thread, it's puzzling to see you post this stuff. If you have had anything to do with spirituality in your life, you know that what I say is true. But if that's what spirituality is to you -- merely an intellectual invention of the human mind -- go join a skeptics forum, for your own sake. You'd apparently be happier there because here you come across as a cynic. That wasn't a thought-filled reply for example. You offered no depth, no insight, no explanation. You tossed out a cynical dart and that was it.
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Old 15-07-2018, 05:59 PM
Amilius777 Amilius777 is offline
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What God is doesn't come from the mind nor belief, but from just Being

Even if you couldn't think with your mind in concepts and ideas you are still being, you are conscious even when you are sleeping.

The sense of being can not be ignored.

God or YHWH is Beingness itself. The "Father" Jesus refers to isn't a diety (which there could exist many gods and goddesses from other universes), but refers to what is Absolute. It would be like picturing the Sun with no circumference. That is what God is like. But since I am saying "is like" still doesn't explain it completely since I am using my human mind with uses patterns and concepts to explain things in order to survive.

So this is Something Else beyond our comprehension. Our Source, our Origin, our deepest Essence, the Self of all ourselves,

Jesus' followers called him Christ the Son which is also an abstract concept. They were basically calling him God. It doesn't matter what denomination you were raised , if your a scholar, whatever. They gave him an absolute title. But that is the thing. Jesus was a human being, "a" something, a being not Beingness Itself (Father/God), but he was called Christ or "the Son". It's because Jesus's vessel, his embodiment, what he was in that incarnation was an Avatar. A full-complete one. Not a semi-divine or half-divine avatar which have existed throughout history, nor a liberated soul-avatar like the Buddha, but a full direct Representative or Incarnation of God/Divine. He had two sides of his being, one which was a Soul being like us who suffered, cried, had friends, personal interactions, family, likes and dislikes, gifts, talents, etc but on the other side his consciousness was the same as what is the Source, where he could be anywhere, knew all things, basically was Perfect. But since he wasn't purely Beingness itself since no one and nothing is except What is That, which is Absolute and what he called "Father", they called him "the Son". Very similar to the HIndu concept of Brahman and Atman. Encased in the Soul and body of Christ was the fullness of Divinity actualized in time and space - in History- is the same Divinity that flows from and shared by the Brahman/God/Father/Source .

Inside us all , the Source shares and flows His/Her/It's divinity from Godself into all life and souls, that shared divine Energy and consciousness is the Holy Spirit.

This is where the Christian Mystics created the Trinity. It is a human concept trying to explain how all three of these divine powers are all sharing the same thing, are One but all different. Again a human concept to explain something, what it is "like" but doesn't necessarily explain it entirely since humanity won't ever know it's entirity on Earth
Faith is the Substance of things Hoped For!
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