Self Liberation through Seeing with Naked Awareness

[sentient]

Originally Posted by django

The channels are distinct from the winds, and ultimately wind needs to flow through the central channel.

This - I trust - is where the Non-Dual energy flow (the light, luminosity, radiance) becomes apparent to the practitioner, but with lots of warnings about the practice, because the energy flows into the central channel at the time of death for us mere mortals.

[django]

Originally Posted by sentient

This - I trust - is where the Non-Dual energy flow (the light, luminosity, radiance) becomes apparent to the practitioner, but with lots of warnings about the practice, because the energy flows into the central channel at the time of death for us mere mortals.

I think the subtle winds flowing through the central channel would indeed be associated with the achievement of the underlying 'nature of mind' which is non-dual wisdom. I don't think 'wind' is light though, wind is derived from 'air' and 'space' according to the Tibetan Buddhists - it's actually 'wind-like'. Perhaps wind brought into the central channel leads to light/luminosity/radiance, this sounds likely to me.

It is possible though clearly very rare for someone to bring wind into the central channel before they die.

Gradual opening and refining of one's subtle bodily pathways and chakras alongside the bodies elements give the mind and consciousness a system in which to both travel and ‘be seated’ in the static human form. These channels, pathways, and chakras in which the consciousness must move need refining and training to become open and clean.

...rLung or wind energy has a tremendous capacity to transform [within these opened channels] by its very nature of being light [as in airy, not weighing much], mobile and subtle.

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...tan_Medici ne

[running]

Originally Posted by Rain95

I did not understand a word of it lol. I even read it twice.

been following this thread a bit lately. from what i have seen from your posts it appears to me some expereince would give you an opening to understanding what people are talking about. im not personally knocking you. im just simply saying like a lot of things practical experience can make things more understandable. im not familiar with Buddhism but i suspect there are monks that one can meditate with. in so doing can share their presence and then you can get a taste of what people put into words to convey an experince. if your more open to just buddhisn then there are many gurus, and or other monks to work with. with the internet doors that were once closed to the masses are now open.

[sentient]

Originally Posted by django

Perhaps wind brought into the central channel leads to light/luminosity/radiance, this sounds likely to me.

It is possible though clearly very rare for someone to bring wind into the central channel before they die.

Yep - yep.

From “The Bliss of Inner Fire” by Lama Yeshe:

The third phase in the process is absorption of the air energies in the central channel ……….
The energies then begin to absorb, and we experience the stages of dissolution that happen naturally at the time of death.
With dissolution of the four elements, we experience the visions of a mirage, smoke, fireflies and a flickering flame, followed by the white, red and black visions – and finally the clear light.

Very, very simply put – Energy – in order to manifest as physical reality needs to split into polarities, that come together in the Central Channel and the Central Channel thus is not being “One” it is rather being “Zero”.
Lama Yeshe:

Let go, so that the space of zero is full of wisdom, love and joy.

But for a beginner a kind of hair width space between terror and ecstasy.
And I might add that the space of Zero is a Dance of Synchronicity in full display.
I also trust that when Taoist immortals ride Dragons or Shamen Eagles – we are talking about the same Central Channel Energy utilized.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by django

I disagree with your premise that everything is energy is one without differentiation. My post wasn't a quote, but you can do your own reading on the issue. Maybe start with the quote below...

"Everything in life is vibration" - Albert Einstein.

Citation needed.

[Rain95]

Originally Posted by jonesboy

Buddhism is filled with visualization energy practices.

Tibetan Buddhism yes, Zen Buddhism no.

[Rain95]

Originally Posted by running

im not familiar with Buddhism

This is good place for you to start.

http://www.abuddhistlibrary.com/Budd...ODHIDHARMA.htm

[running]

Originally Posted by Rain95

This is good place for you to start.

http://www.abuddhistlibrary.com/Budd...ODHIDHARMA.htm

thank you. but as i stated not a Buddhist. what i see generaly speaking is people becoming addicted to technicalitys of interpretations. a potential hindrance to experience imo. but who am i to say what is good for you or anybody else.

[django]

Originally Posted by Gem

Citation needed.

Citation needed for “everything in life is vibration” - Einstein? Or my earlier post which I clarified was my own and not a quote?

[django]

Originally Posted by sentient

Yep - yep.

From “The Bliss of Inner Fire” by Lama Yeshe:


Very, very simply put – Energy – in order to manifest as physical reality needs to split into polarities, that come together in the Central Channel and the Central Channel thus is not being “One” it is rather being “Zero”.
Lama Yeshe:

But for a beginner a kind of hair width space between terror and ecstasy.
And I might add that the space of Zero is a Dance of Synchronicity in full display.
I also trust that when Taoist immortals ride Dragons or Shamen Eagles – we are talking about the same Central Channel Energy utilized.

Yes, the same, and that same hair width space is surely the channel that the Yogis call Brahmanadi.

A dance of synchronicity in full display, well said