Suicide and the afterlife....

[Rayden_Greywolf]

So, I find myself very upset with most people's theories on what happens to a soul after a suicide. People are quick to point out the grave consequences, such as being born again almost immediately with extra karmic baggage, or how it damages one's soul very badly. Rarely do they talk about recovery or love. I know personally this lack of understanding and compassion tends to make my feelings seem "wrong" or invalid. This has me wondering: What really happens to the soul after suicide? Is it really all gloom and doom?

[Baile]

After every incarnation, the soul reflects upon its past life and deeds. And it determines which karmic ties and relationships it will choose to work on in its next lifetime.

We incarnate to work on our karma. I would assume suicide is seen as nothing more or less than a karmic opportunity cut short and even wasted; but also as something that can be picked up again in a later life. Goodness, I could list a dozen things I regret this lifetime, and know I'll be back to improve upon next time. That's how suicide would be seen by the soul no doubt, a probable regret that would inspire the soul to want to do better next time round.

Most certainly though, the so-called "universe" doesn't punish the soul for any of this. :)

[Mojo Pan]

You said it, "most people's theories". Truth is, nobody has a clue what happens in such a case. Let's come up with another theory...a person commits suicide because of past life karma, maybe he was a serial killer in a past lifetime. So they take their own life an din this case maybe their soul is finally free of the karmic debt, if such a thing exists. Will then the soul be punished for this ? Wow, brain hurts now...time for some mindless gaming haha

[Native spirit]

When the soul leaves the body either through natural death or suicide.it goes into Healing it does not linger in between worlds,which some believe.and they are not reincarnated straight away with extra karma either, that is just scare mongering


Namaste

Originally Posted by Native spirit

When the soul leaves the body either through natural death or suicide.it goes into Healing it does not linger in between worlds,which some believe.and they are not reincarnated straight away with extra karma either, that is just scare mongering


Namaste

I agree boss.

[Rah nam]

Originally Posted by Native spirit

When the soul leaves the body either through natural death or suicide.it goes into Healing it does not linger in between worlds,which some believe.and they are not reincarnated straight away with extra karma either, that is just scare mongering


Namaste

If this is so, I wonder what all those spirits are doing here in the non physical earth realm, and why I had to go in there to work with some of them?

Originally Posted by Rah nam

If this is so, I wonder what all those spirits are doing here in the non physical earth realm, and why I had to go in there to work with some of them?

all those spirits? How many is 'all'?

And you didn't HAVE to go "in there" with some of them - you chose to but if you really don't understand why then perhaps it would be better to find out?

[Rah nam]

Originally Posted by leadville

all those spirits? How many is 'all'?

And you didn't HAVE to go "in there" with some of them - you chose to but if you really don't understand why then perhaps it would be better to find out?

It depends which spirits we count, the angelic who are there to assist, I will not count, and they can not get stuck there. They are just pulled out if for some reason they become out of balance.

Then there are spirits who are there just, how can I say it, without making it to complicated, to mess things up for one reason or an other.
Then there is the main group who have partly crossed over yet for some reason, which there are several, have not completed the crossing over.
The latest estimates, according to the angelic, who keep track of it, is 3.5 billion.



In regards whether I have to or not, I go when I am asked, this is what we do.

Originally Posted by Rayden_Greywolf

So, I find myself very upset with most people's theories on what happens to a soul after a suicide. People are quick to point out the grave consequences, such as being born again almost immediately with extra karmic baggage, or how it damages one's soul very badly. Rarely do they talk about recovery or love. I know personally this lack of understanding and compassion tends to make my feelings seem "wrong" or invalid. This has me wondering: What really happens to the soul after suicide? Is it really all gloom and doom?

The discussion on suicide only makes sense if it's taken in context, the trouble is that most discussions on suicide take place in the context of judgement against low level morality. It's often seen as the cowardly and 'wrong' thing to do, but my question would be that if people are bandying those words around what do they say about them? Most people's theories aren't theories, they're discussions of ignorance because few of them seem to have had any real experience of walking that particular Path or have talked to those who have attempted suicide.

We are here to learn the lessons, grow Spiritually and there are Karmic Obligations/Life's Purpose. The Path to suicide is quite an experience for the one walking it, and the aftermath leaves those left behind with their own lessons etc.. What are the reasons that suicide is not a valid experience chosen by a Soul? And if that is the case, what are the reasons it isn't it as much of a valid experience for those left behind? If it happens at all - according to what some very Spiritually advanced people have said on this forum - it has only happened within Karmic Agreements/Life Purpose. If it has been chosen and agreed to by others that a Soul will experience suicide, doesn't that make it not cowardly but Divine Will?


When a Soul goes back to Spirit, allegedly there is nothing but Love because that's all Spirit is. However, it seems that suicide is the exception to the rule.

Karmic baggage??? Karma is probably one of the most misunderstood words in Spirituality, and in this case it doesn't make any sense at all. It's not karma, what you're doing when you use the word is perpetuating judgement. There is no time, allegedly. In science, all of time exists all of the time so what we call past, present and future is happening right now. Spirituality says much about the same. So with that, what of karma and Past Lives? That has yet to be explained it seems, because karma and Past Lives are all discussed within a linear, human - not Spiritual - time frame. Who decides good and bad karma, right and wrong, wasted?


By the way, the Sanskrit word 'karma; means 'action', nothing more. Anything else is a Spiritual myth.

[markings]

A person attempting to help another despite the almost certain risk of death is seen as a hero.
A person, choosing to die by their own hand, to help others by relieving them of a burden, and maybe himself due to unbearable pain and almost certain death is also a hero. It needs courage to end one's life.

It does terminate future potential but what kind of potential can there be when one is not really functional as a human being anymore either physically or mentally?