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[Thunder Bow]

Passing out while at the wheel driving, I would never call an "Spiritual Experience". It can be an Fatal event.

[IsleWalker]

Originally Posted by Thunder Bow

Passing out while at the wheel driving, I would never call an "Spiritual Experience". It can be an Fatal event.

OK Dad. Think you missed the point of his post! But nevermind...

[running]

Originally Posted by Thunder Bow

Passing out while at the wheel driving, I would never call an "Spiritual Experience". It can be an Fatal event.

Not that i labeled anything. Or was it passing out. I mean, i was the one whom experienced it. Not anyone else.

But everyone is entitled to there own opinions of things. It wasn't your experience and you weren't there. But you can call it what you want. See it how you want. Think me how you want. Has nothing to do with me. Not that you have or haven't. Im just saying i know im fair game for whatever when i bring something up here. I know that. So thanks for your thoughts. And I can understand your intentions behind the comment.

[Thunder Bow]

My "intentions" is that I want you to live and be alive. Any experience that can bring harm to you, I do not consider to be "Spiritual". I stand by this comment strong.

[running]

Originally Posted by Thunder Bow

My "intentions" is that I want you to live and be alive. Any experience that can bring harm to you, I do not consider to be "Spiritual". I stand by this comment strong.

this has already been covered in my responses to you on this thread. Nobody is in argument about this is all. Its just been covered, not labeled, and off topic of the thread. But its no big deal. You can mention what ever you want. As I do to. I have no problem with it or your intentions. I'm just explaining where I'm coming from.

[Thunder Bow]

What are my "Intentions"?

[Native spirit]

Can we please keep this post polite.

thank you

[running]

The gift under scrutiny came to me yesterday. Its something that I used as a tool most days for six months, year, I really can't remember. And then one time before that is the topic at hand.

Anyways I want to talk about this sense its still coming up on this thread and its fresh on my mind. There are two main things I trust. Bliss and my guidance. Those things I put first with all my heart. When I do everything else works out better anyways. Bliss if some one was not to know it is a condition. A condition that makes one feel good without requiring an outside stimulus. It has an intoxicating nature about it. Following my guidance first for me made that happen. Over time I have built a trust with it and my guidance. For me I consider my guidance to be what feels right. What feels right comes from my own thinking, guides, intuition, life, and spiritual experiences.

Okay this one is a combination of spiritual experiences and information from my guides. Yesterday it happened. Its evident cause my vibration goes up, my throat and heart opens. My throat and heart feel like they have extra juice. My energy body expands. I found myself looking like a bird. My arms were full of feathers and on my body I wore animal skins. The bliss and vibration was much more than normal. Around me felt like songs of confidence going on. With my arms up I felt a oneness with the air and its power. My feet were stomping the ground. At the end of the ceremony my guides had messages. The best gift I could give to them is to just be myself. Have self confidence and acceptance of my experience. So I brought this and the part of me from there back to me. As a result I have grown and am generating more intoxicating energy.

Before this time it had been quite a while before doing this to this extent. Most often it is of an indigenous culture but not always. The one thing that is always true. I bring me back and in doing so I generate more bliss. I am fully functional when this happens. And had always been so except for a brief moment the first time it happened.

As I said earlier I am grounded. In my first year I was not. For many people the first beginning of an awakening could be rough in ways. In the beginnings of using gifts could be as well. For me it was.

I still don't use many of the things I have experienced. I didn't grow up around anyone who knew anything about these things. Ever since I can remember I have experienced things. My guides have never led me wrong. But I still chose to just work on growing my own self. Cause I'm not entirely comfortable with it all. And I'm not sure its for me to do. But what I can do is become an ever growing generator of bliss. Hoping it rubs off on people as I go about my life. Today I am very lucky though. I have a wonderful girlfriend whom shares spiritual*experiences. She has a big heart and we have lots of fun sharing experiences. She unlike me uses it to help people and teach about these gifts. Its fun to finally in my life have someone whom I can relate to. To know I'm not crazy cause she's got it to. Lol. Different gifts but its still all the same.

This gift made that happen for me. So I trust and love it. And being given the experience yesterday I can say with 100 % confidence it doesn't matter to me what anyone thinks. And I'm 100% functional in the experience. My guides and experiencd just reaffirmed that.

But I have no problem with anyone in the belief it is not spiritual. Or anything else for that matter. Its no big deal to me. Its a big planet with many people. Not everyone I would expect to be the same.

[IsleWalker]

Running---

Well, I've caught the vibe from you--the bliss one. How can that be wrong?

Lora

[running]

And I forgot to mention. In the experience emotions release out of my second chakra. I have been told this is a way of releasing the emotional body.

I don't know all the terms and so on. But like I said earlier I grow in size and bliss.

To someone whom has never experienced this. For me its like knowing myself somewhere else and feeling power in my throat and heart. Information comes to me through my throat. My crown is always open but I imagine it may be more so during the experience. When the emotions release joy replaces it. The kind that is causeless. Its like saying hello to heaven to me I guess. Lol.