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Old 22-08-2018, 02:27 PM
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My point was/is that:

Since every possibility (including Stalinistic ones! ) is a part of and so may be tuned 'into' via 'the field', how we 'evolve' depends on the 'nature' of (what's 'in') our 'hearts'. Now, how the 'heart' 'evolves' 'higher' - I seriously think that might be worth thinking and speculating about.

Case in point: There are lots of people who thought/think 'All is One' etc. who are 'blind' to the implications of this - who therefore continue to betray Life by being 'self'ish - negligent etc. and even worse, who commit 'atrocities' "in the 'name' of God" etc. etc. etc. in relation to others!


Maybe your hopes are just too early in 'time'. We haven't evolved so far yet that out 'hearts' can speak. We've hardly blinked the sunlight as we still live in Plato's cave. We cannot distinguish any path we could take as the 'mess' we face is confusing - to say the least.
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Old 22-08-2018, 03:04 PM
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Maybe your hopes are just too early in 'time'. We haven't evolved so far yet that out 'hearts' can speak. We've hardly blinked the sunlight as we still live in Plato's cave.
As Tonto said to The Lone Ranger (in the joke about their conversation in the context of their running out of ammunition which fighting 'hostile' Indians):


The Lone Ranger: "Well, I guess we've had it now, Tonto!"

Tonto: "What do you mean by 'we', Paleface!?"


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Old 22-08-2018, 03:12 PM
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Basic Fundamental Integral Wholes >< Complex Whole Integrity

Mental is directly associated only with nervous system ergo only with animals.

In some cases mental{ nervous system } activity has access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts ergo abstract ideas via language of written or verbal word or via mathematics.

Two { di } hemi-spheres

12-24 cranial nerves includes the Captain nerve the Vagus nerve
....4-fold cubo{6}-octa[8}hedron and 5-fold icosa{20}hedron both have

12 vertexes/vertexia/nodes/energy centers/hubs/points,
...24 rib bones define rib cage and cubo-octahedron is defined by 24 chords

31 bilateral spinal nerves
...5-fold icosahedron has 31 left and right-skew versions --ergo 62-- of the 31 primary great circles

4 chambers of heart that take in blood from four systems and pumps out blood into four systems ergo 8 distinct systems
..the cubo-octahedron is defined by 8 tetrahedral systems that all connect at a central nucleus

http://www.cosmometry.net/overview-of-cosmometry

Area of a sphere is;

Area = 4 * Pi * radius^2

Volume = 4/3 * Pi * radius^3

Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7 66

12 points have 66 lines-of-relationship via

12^2 = 144

144 minus 12 = 132

132 divided by 2 = 66
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Pi^4 = 97.40 90 9 10 34 00 24 37236440332688705

97.4 - 31 = 66.4
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Pi^4/4 = 24.35 22 7 27 58 5006 09309110083172176
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Old 22-08-2018, 03:18 PM
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As Tonto said to The Lone Ranger (in the joke about their conversation in the context of their running out of ammunition which fighting 'hostile' Indians):


The Lone Ranger: "Well, I guess we've had it now, Tonto!"

Tonto: "What do you mean by 'we', Paleface!?"



In my book (once again) - we are all in this together.
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Old 22-08-2018, 03:21 PM
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Mental is directly associated only with nervous system ergo only with animals.

In some cases mental{ nervous system } activity has access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts ergo abstract ideas via language of written or verbal word or via mathematics.

Two { di } hemi-spheres

12-24 cranial nerves includes the Captain nerve the Vagus nerve
....4-fold cubo{6}-octa[8}hedron and 5-fold icosa{20}hedron both have

12 vertexes/vertexia/nodes/energy centers/hubs/points,
...24 rib bones define rib cage and cubo-octahedron is defined by 24 chords

31 bilateral spinal nerves
...5-fold icosahedron has 31 left and right-skew versions --ergo 62-- of the 31 primary great circles

4 chambers of heart that take in blood from four systems and pumps out blood into four systems ergo 8 distinct systems
..the cubo-octahedron is defined by 8 tetrahedral systems that all connect at a central nucleus

http://www.cosmometry.net/overview-of-cosmometry

Area of a sphere is;

Area = 4 * Pi * radius^2

Volume = 4/3 * Pi * radius^3

Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7 66

12 points have 66 lines-of-relationship via

12^2 = 144

144 minus 12 = 132

132 divided by 2 = 66
----------------------------

Pi^4 = 97.40 90 9 10 34 00 24 37236440332688705

97.4 - 31 = 66.4
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Pi^4/4 = 24.35 22 7 27 58 5006 09309110083172176

I'm happy with that
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Old 22-08-2018, 03:51 PM
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I'm happy with that
If your happy and you know it......


then your math will surely show it..........


Basic Fundamental Integral Wholes > < Complex Wholistic Integrities



Absolute > < Relative


Bats are mammals who emit sonic frequencies/sine-wave that near equilvalent mathematically to frequency of micro-waves{ photons }



Dolphins/porpoises also emit a similar high{ micro } frequency/sine-wave via medium of water.


Some believe there is a frequency of EMRadiation or gravitational medium that can be labled as telepathy i.e. transmission of abstract concepts that are not conventional.


They now believe elephants can feel very low frequency phenomena in Earth --- ex earthquake--- via their large feet contacting Earth.
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Old 22-08-2018, 05:20 PM
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In my book (once again) - we are all in this together.
My 'point' which you continue to 'deflect' (IMO) by ways of saying that (after saying "Maybe your hopes are just too early in 'time'. We haven't evolved so far yet that out 'hearts' can speak. We've hardly blinked the sunlight as we still live in Plato's cave. We cannot distinguish any path we could take as the 'mess' we face is confusing - to say the least." was that said statement did not qualify and articulate that said 'truth' did not pertain to all of 'us'.

'Evolution' continues apace and is 'doing' just fine 'in' the personas of any and all who have gotten 'on board' the "train to Jordan", Bro!

Re "The train to Jordan" reference, check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-MrTaXpy0w

Lyrics"

People, get ready
There's a train a-coming
You don't need no ticket
You just get on board

All you need is faith
To hear the diesels humming
Don't need no ticket
You just thank the Lord

People get ready
For the train to Jordan
Picking up passengers
From coast to coast

Faith is the key
Open the doors and board them
There's room for all
Amongst the loved the most

There ain't no room
For the hopeless sinner
Who would hurt all mankind
Just to save his own

Have pity on those
Whose chances are thinner
'Cause there's no hiding place
From the kingdom's throne

So people get ready
For the train a-comin'
You don't need no ticket
You just get on board

All you need is faith
To hear the diesels humming
Don't need no ticket
You just thank the Lord

I'm getting ready
I'm getting ready
This time I'm ready
This time I'm ready
I'm getting ready
Getting ready, oh yeah
I'm getting ready, yes I am

Songwriters: Curtis Mayfield
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Old 23-08-2018, 06:07 AM
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My 'point' which you continue to 'deflect' (IMO) by ways of saying that (after saying "Maybe your hopes are just too early in 'time'. We haven't evolved so far yet that out 'hearts' can speak. We've hardly blinked the sunlight as we still live in Plato's cave. We cannot distinguish any path we could take as the 'mess' we face is confusing - to say the least." was that said statement did not qualify and articulate that said 'truth' did not pertain to all of 'us'.

'Evolution' continues apace and is 'doing' just fine 'in' the personas of any and all who have gotten 'on board' the "train to Jordan", Bro!

Re "The train to Jordan" reference, check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-MrTaXpy0w

Lyrics"

People, get ready
There's a train a-coming
You don't need no ticket
You just get on board

All you need is faith
To hear the diesels humming
Don't need no ticket
You just thank the Lord

People get ready
For the train to Jordan
Picking up passengers
From coast to coast

Faith is the key
Open the doors and board them
There's room for all
Amongst the loved the most

There ain't no room
For the hopeless sinner
Who would hurt all mankind
Just to save his own

Have pity on those
Whose chances are thinner
'Cause there's no hiding place
From the kingdom's throne

So people get ready
For the train a-comin'
You don't need no ticket
You just get on board

All you need is faith
To hear the diesels humming
Don't need no ticket
You just thank the Lord

I'm getting ready
I'm getting ready
This time I'm ready
This time I'm ready
I'm getting ready
Getting ready, oh yeah
I'm getting ready, yes I am

Songwriters: Curtis Mayfield

Maybe it would be of greater help to me if you would state clearly what the point is that you are wanting to make. I haven't grasped it all.
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Old 23-08-2018, 01:02 PM
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In my book (once again) - we are all in this together.
Yes, BUT ... only for NOW.

Not all of us are 'evolving' (spiritually) speaking.

Some 'souls' (spirits) are moving 'forward', some are moving 'backward' (i.e. 'devolving'). Some are headed for (spiritual) 'extinction'. No 'secret' here.

Mind is but the 'eye' of the 'soul', so the 'universes' (plural) that soul's 'see' i.e. ex-peer-ience (along evolutionary and/or devolutionary teir journey) differ. No 'secret' here either.
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Old 23-08-2018, 02:28 PM
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Book1 Generalization { wholistic mind } vs Specialization { less wholistic mind }

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Some 'souls' (spirits) are moving 'forward', some are moving 'backward' (i.e. 'devolving').


Its called inbreeding and leads to lack of access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts and well documented.

In breeding is done with animals to try and get one or two specific traits/characterisitics aka specialization. Ex to get fastest running, or smelling or longer tail, or thicker neck etc.

Access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept is a specific trait of generalising, and not the above specialization resultants.

Idiot savants are very highly specialized in one two traits, but most of them cannot generalize enough to take care of themselves in every day life. They need assistance.
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