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Old 03-03-2020, 04:45 PM
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You are free to be, do or have anything you so desire. And if you deprive yourself of your own true nature of being, you are not teaching anyone anything, but self contradiction, by your example, not by your words. You are being a negative influence on the people around you, by forcing yourself to denie your desires. And as a result, you suffer and as a result those people around you are also gonna have more opportunity to choose that suffering. Because you are an inseperable extension of the entire planet earth and humanity and the entire universe and your inner being and your source.

Because of you. When money is there to be owned by you and used by you. And enjoyed by you as you are capable of owning money in a responsible way. And all of a sudden you call it a drug. Guess what, you are creating a world where people are suffering from drug addictions. And then using money as an excuse to do so, not realising that by your denial of your own money, your money is now owned by a drug dealer. YOUR MONEY is now being invested in the production of drugs. You know why? Because you are not being true to yourself. It's like the universe is knocking on your door, "Hello?! IS someone there?!" And you say "Go away, money is the source of all evil!" And thus the universe says, ok... Guess we'll have to find someone else to own all of your money for you, hopefully one strong individual who is capable of handling all of that responsibility and it will be very difficult for this individual because this money doesn't belong to him, but it is the path of least resistance, untill the slayer of light come back into alignment with his own true nature of being, there is no rush, we got time, eventually he'll understand that his existence is valued by creation.

And so people miss you in their life. And so in order to cope, being without you, they need drugs. And thus a drug dealer is a great mercy and caretaker for them. So the universe invests your money wisely. Because one day you will find a drug addict suffering, and in that moment you will wish you had all the money in the world to help that individual let go of the need to use drugs. And then you will see the mercy of that, as your ability to remember who you truely are, and thus also are ment to be, as a prosperous rich wealthy individual who is a joyous positive influence and benefit to all individuals you love and they need that love, because they want that love from you. But if you're not willing to be yourself, then how can you give love?

So if you wanna help people, then own your money and enjoy being rich and don't call money a drugs. That is how you transform your definition of life and thus transform the entire world in the process, making your life better, thus making all life on the planet better. Because again, you are an inseperable energy motional extension of ALL THAT EXISTS and is being and becoming evermore here and now. If you call money drugs, you create a world where money is drugs. If you say money is good, now money is good. And people will, thanks to you, associate money less with drugs, and those who got money will be less prone to drug addictions.

I don't want money, many people don't want money. They want someone like you TO OWN THE MONEY FOR THEM. So they don't have to deal with it.

Not everyone has a desire for money, and those people who do desire money and deprive themselves of their own desire, they will also deprive other people who want something else than money, of their desire aswell. Because everything is connected. You are an inseperable energy motional extension of your true nature of being. IF you deprive yourself of all that you truely are, you deprive everyone of your true nature of being, and creation is not complete without you. So you have NO CHOICE but to allow yourself to be who you are and enjoy what you want and enjoy being who you simply are and what you simply enjoy in life. For if you don't, the consequences will return to you, eventually... And the result is that you will choose to release resistance, due to expanded suffering, and thus allow yourself to enjoy a greater allowed realisation in and of life. By virtue of the irresistable nature of the ever expanding source of all creation of infinite unconditional love, infinite intelligence, eternal wisdom.

You see, you don't understand how creation works. It is all energy. Not your words. When someone says they want to believe that money comes out of the sky. You may very well be that person who will bring money to them from out of the sky. That is why you attract those sayings, because your soul is reminding you of what you want. And who you really are. That is why you are ment to be it, because you ALREADY ARE IT. Your soul has always and will forever always already be and become evermore here and now ALL that you want to be do or have, evermore ongoingly here and now, unconditionally loving you, guiding you and supporting you, as you are an inseperable energy motional extension of your own source of being and your own soul core life essence and true nature of being ALL THAT YOU HAVE BECOME and AAAALL that you truely already are being and becoming evermore naturally and effortlessly and joyously here and now.

I'm not saying you have to own the money, I'm just saying this to give you some perspective. That it is waaaay more simple then you think. And sometimes you need to make things very complicated in order to force yourself to remember how simple it all really is. That you simply can be, do or have anything you so desire. By simply enjoying your own desires, unconditionally, regardless of any and all temporary every changing ever evolving conditions, under any and ALL conditions, always simply enjoying your desires and your ongoingly evermore effortless and joyous greater allowed realisation of all that you truely are being and becoming evermore naturally and effortlessly and joyously here and now. You didn't come here to fix problems because life is not a problem. You simply came here to be yourself. And if you're not being true to yourself, then THERE IS A PROBLEM. AND IT IS WITH YOU. And it is simply a self contradiction. Denying your own desires. And that problem will continue to grow. Not as a punishment, but as a reminder of who you truely are. Because you cannot ever become less than who you truely are and thus it will always feel bad when you do resist your own true infinite and eternal nature of all that you truely are being and becoming evermore here and now. So you will simply let go of the need to do that to yourself. To simply be willing more often to simply enjoy life and your desires more unconditionally, by simply allowing yourself to be yourself more often and enjoy life more often and enjoy your own desires more often and simply be true to your own true nature of being and becoming evermore here and now, more often. Simple really.

Sorry but all of that sounds like a load bollocks. The world would be such a better place if it wasn't all about money. What I said is true, money is like the root of most evils because people kill each other over it and are addicted to it. And of course the females usually only prefer the wealthy, arrogant guys. Not to mention, those living in poverty. Imagine if there was no money, nobody would be poor and literally everyone would be equal without being looked down upon.

As for me, I am not wealthy but I have plenty of money to do my own thing so I don't even need or want more unless if I am in trouble. I am not denying myself any desires at all (which have nothing to do with money) but instead craving very badly for them.

On a side note, I am definitely not an extension of this miserable world and those simians called humans. I believe in a one-ness with nature, but not in a spiritual sense.
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Old 03-03-2020, 04:52 PM
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I am not denying myself any desires at all (which have nothing to do with money) but instead craving very badly for them.
Craving is a literal definitive description of a self contradicted thought/desire. It is not a purely allowed to be realised desire, a good feeling desire, naturally good feeling and allowed to be realised pure desire.

Craving is, Wanting something and believing in the absence of it. What you are doing here... and your craving is literal energy motional, emotional, undeniable, EVIDENCE of you denying yourself all of your desires. In that moment that you are craving for something.

And by doing this, you are not only causing yourself to suffer. Why do you think I am here?

All is one and one is all.

Humans are not ment to be like stone. Carve the craving out of your stone heart, let it crack and open and let your life force flooow and let your trueee desiiiire AWAAAKEN and flooooow and beee naaaaturally and eeeeeffortlessly. Freee like waaaaater...
Let the resistance crumble, let it gooooo. It does not belong to you, it is not who you really are. For who you TRUELY are.
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Old 03-03-2020, 05:08 PM
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Craving is a literal definitive description of a self contradicted thought/desire. It is not a purely allowed to be realised desire, a good feeling desire, naturally good feeling and allowed to be realised pure desire.

Craving is, Wanting something and believing in the absence of it. What you are doing here... and your craving is literal energy motional, emotional, undeniable, EVIDENCE of you denying yourself all of your desires. In that moment that you are craving for something.

And by doing this, you are not only causing yourself to suffer. Why do you think I am here?

All is one and one is all.

There's nothing wrong with craving something if you have a good and valid reason for it. I'm not talking about myself because I have plenty of friends, but I hope you are not too far away from reality to understand that a lonely person craving for company is only a natural feeling that nobody has control over. You can't just get rid of a longing for something, especially if that is your true wish in this world and the abstraction of it is causing you to suffer. I have no idea if you have access to God's rulebook that you happen to 'know' all of that, but it just sounds pretty sickening to me. As if it was designed by some psychopath with the intention of causing maximum suffering.
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Old 03-03-2020, 07:47 PM
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There's nothing wrong with craving something if you have a good and valid reason for it. I'm not talking about myself because I have plenty of friends, but I hope you are not too far away from reality to understand that a lonely person craving for company is only a natural feeling that nobody has control over. You can't just get rid of a longing for something, especially if that is your true wish in this world and the abstraction of it is causing you to suffer. I have no idea if you have access to God's rulebook that you happen to 'know' all of that, but it just sounds pretty sickening to me. As if it was designed by some psychopath with the intention of causing maximum suffering.
NO YOU NEVER have a good and valid reason to CONTRADICT YOURSELF. There is absolutely 0% value in it. Now I'm gonna tell you a secret. There is a value in it, but it is not in the self contradiction. The value of it is for YOU TO REALISE THAT THERE IS NO VALUE IN IT. The value is who you are! YOU ARE IT! YOU ARE THE VALUE. And you don't have to contradict your own values. So that you are freeeeee forevermore from ever again, contradicting yourSELF. That is the greatest and ONLY value that the self contradiction can offer you.

So what do you want? Do you want to enjoy company. Or do you want to contradict yourself by CRAAAAAVING for company as if it doesn't exist. As if it is SOOO FAAAAAR OUT THEEeeEEEeere so faaaaAAaar awAAAAAY and sooooo difficuuuuUuuUUlt to reEEeaaaach. Not really... The desire exists within you. It is not out there. It is trying to FLOW THROUGH YOU. IT is trying to come to you and through you and for you and as you and with you. But you have to allow it. By focusing on the preeeeeesence of it. The reaaaaaaality that you DOOoooooOOOO WANT. Not the reality that you dooooooon't want? The reality that you DOooooOO want. For it will forever be here and now for you, with you, as you, through you. As you can be do or have anything you so desire.

Craving is like crawling up to a waterfall of pure fresh water and bountifull treasures just floating down like endless gifts of the highest of heavens. And then being like "I AM SO THIIIRSTY!!! I AM SOOOOoooooo DRYyyyyhhhhh....." And then you basically solidify and crystallize and you just crack and crumble and stiffen and contradict yourself, you become so stiff! And hard! And you TRYYYYyyy so HAAAAaaard..... Even tho the water is right there. You basically turn into stone, and you become a nice funny weird looking statue upon which the waterfall flows and smacks and eventually shapes you out of your resistant despairity looking like shape. Into a more natural smooth looking stone. And that's the end of that self contradiction. At best your true self, your soul, can look at it and laugh about it. But YOU CAN NEVER BECOME THE SELF CONTRADICTION. IT IS NOT REAL. You can never become it. And THAT is why it FEEEEEEEELS SO NOT GOOD SO BAAaaAAaaD.

That is why it hUUuUUURts so much to contradict yourself. That is why it is so UnNAaAaAAAturaaall. IT is not compAAaaaAtible with your true normal natural nature. For if it was compatible with who you really are, then it would feel WOOooOOONDERFUuuuull! You would deliiiight in contradicting yourself. You would embeeeellish yourself in evermore SEEEELF contradictions.

So why do you crave for company? If you can have company. If you can enjoy the very desire for company. And allow it to flow naaaaturally throooough you. Freeeeely. Naaaaturally. Eeeeeeffortlessly. Uncondiiiiiiiiiiiitionally. Energy moooootionally. Emoooootionally. Trueeeeely. Enjoying the desiiire for company. The desire to be do or have anything you so desiiiiire.

Again, you are an inseperable energy motional extension of your true original source of infinite and eternal being and becoming evermore here and now all that you and all truely are being and becoming evermore here and now. And that is why it feels so bad to you to contradict yourself. Because you cannot become less, you cannot seperate and disconnect yourself from your true eternal herritage of everlasting joy. It is who you really are! You cannot become less than it. And if you try. IF you Tryyyyyy, rather then BE! Then you will simply suffer over it. Because trying does not exist. IT IS NOT REAL. It is a self contradiction. It can never become a reality. It has never become a reality and it never will and it is not being a reality. It is simply a self contradictory thought. An energy motional idea that you can focus upon that lessens your own physical body consciousness, temporarily. For you can only temporarily pinch yourself OFF from your own true source of beingness, but you cannot ever disconnect yourself from it. That is why it feels so BAAaaad, because it is so unnecessary. There is no point to it. There is no reality that is capable of coming out of it. And so... It will simply wither and die. And that's it. And then you are free again from this self contradiction.

For you can only suffer for as long as you are capable and willing to hold on to it. But the moment you let go of that self contradiction? Wooosh. You are free. Like someone who dies. Instantly, re-emerges into pure positive energy. Coming to full blown realisation of aaaall that they've become and aaaaall that they truely are being and becoming evermore effortlessly and naturally and freely and truely empoweredly and joyfully and knooooowingly and coooonsciously. Hiiiigh consciousness. VIVID LUCID EVER REPLENISHING EEEEVER REFREEEEESHING EVER AWAAAAAKENING CONSCIOUSNESS. EEEEVER KNOOOOOWING CONSCIOUSNESS. EVER ENLIIIIIIIIGHTENING COOOONSCIOUSNESS. FREEEEeeee... To beeee... Dooooo.... Or Haaaaave anything you so desire.

Because you are being and becoming it evermore naturally and effortlessly and joyously here and now.
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The person who is contradicting themselves never feel good doing that.

But the entire universe is celebrating what they are really doing, so that they can forever find their way home to all that they truely are being and becoming evermore here and now.

Or you can say that the entire universe is joyfully celebrating their self contradiction, BECAUSE NOTHING BAD CAN EVER COME OUT OF IT, AND IT IS SO GOOD TO KNOOOW THAT! To cherrish that. And celebrate it! And like it! And enjoy it!

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NO YOU NEVER have a good and valid reason to CONTRADICT YOURSELF. There is absolutely 0% value in it. Now I'm gonna tell you a secret. There is a value in it, but it is not in the self contradiction. The value of it is for YOU TO REALISE THAT THERE IS NO VALUE IN IT. The value is who you are! YOU ARE IT! YOU ARE THE VALUE. And you don't have to contradict your own values. So that you are freeeeee forevermore from ever again, contradicting yourSELF. That is the greatest and ONLY value that the self contradiction can offer you.

So what do you want? Do you want to enjoy company. Or do you want to contradict yourself by CRAAAAAVING for company as if it doesn't exist. As if it is SOOO FAAAAAR OUT THEEeeEEEeere so faaaaAAaar awAAAAAY and sooooo difficuuuuUuuUUlt to reEEeaaaach. Not really... The desire exists within you. It is not out there. It is trying to FLOW THROUGH YOU. IT is trying to come to you and through you and for you and as you and with you. But you have to allow it. By focusing on the preeeeeesence of it. The reaaaaaaality that you DOOoooooOOOO WANT. Not the reality that you dooooooon't want? The reality that you DOooooOO want. For it will forever be here and now for you, with you, as you, through you. As you can be do or have anything you so desire.

Craving is like crawling up to a waterfall of pure fresh water and bountifull treasures just floating down like endless gifts of the highest of heavens. And then being like "I AM SO THIIIRSTY!!! I AM SOOOOoooooo DRYyyyyhhhhh....." And then you basically solidify and crystallize and you just crack and crumble and stiffen and contradict yourself, you become so stiff! And hard! And you TRYYYYyyy so HAAAAaaard..... Even tho the water is right there. You basically turn into stone, and you become a nice funny weird looking statue upon which the waterfall flows and smacks and eventually shapes you out of your resistant despairity looking like shape. Into a more natural smooth looking stone. And that's the end of that self contradiction. At best your true self, your soul, can look at it and laugh about it. But YOU CAN NEVER BECOME THE SELF CONTRADICTION. IT IS NOT REAL. You can never become it. And THAT is why it FEEEEEEEELS SO NOT GOOD SO BAAaaAAaaD.

That is why it hUUuUUURts so much to contradict yourself. That is why it is so UnNAaAaAAAturaaall. IT is not compAAaaaAtible with your true normal natural nature. For if it was compatible with who you really are, then it would feel WOOooOOONDERFUuuuull! You would deliiiight in contradicting yourself. You would embeeeellish yourself in evermore SEEEELF contradictions.

So why do you crave for company? If you can have company. If you can enjoy the very desire for company. And allow it to flow naaaaturally throooough you. Freeeeely. Naaaaturally. Eeeeeeffortlessly. Uncondiiiiiiiiiiiitionally. Energy moooootionally. Emoooootionally. Trueeeeely. Enjoying the desiiire for company. The desire to be do or have anything you so desiiiiire.

Again, you are an inseperable energy motional extension of your true original source of infinite and eternal being and becoming evermore here and now all that you and all truely are being and becoming evermore here and now. And that is why it feels so bad to you to contradict yourself. Because you cannot become less, you cannot seperate and disconnect yourself from your true eternal herritage of everlasting joy. It is who you really are! You cannot become less than it. And if you try. IF you Tryyyyyy, rather then BE! Then you will simply suffer over it. Because trying does not exist. IT IS NOT REAL. It is a self contradiction. It can never become a reality. It has never become a reality and it never will and it is not being a reality. It is simply a self contradictory thought. An energy motional idea that you can focus upon that lessens your own physical body consciousness, temporarily. For you can only temporarily pinch yourself OFF from your own true source of beingness, but you cannot ever disconnect yourself from it. That is why it feels so BAAaaad, because it is so unnecessary. There is no point to it. There is no reality that is capable of coming out of it. And so... It will simply wither and die. And that's it. And then you are free again from this self contradiction.

For you can only suffer for as long as you are capable and willing to hold on to it. But the moment you let go of that self contradiction? Wooosh. You are free. Like someone who dies. Instantly, re-emerges into pure positive energy. Coming to full blown realisation of aaaall that they've become and aaaaall that they truely are being and becoming evermore effortlessly and naturally and freely and truely empoweredly and joyfully and knooooowingly and coooonsciously. Hiiiigh consciousness. VIVID LUCID EVER REPLENISHING EEEEVER REFREEEEESHING EVER AWAAAAAKENING CONSCIOUSNESS. EEEEVER KNOOOOOWING CONSCIOUSNESS. EVER ENLIIIIIIIIGHTENING COOOONSCIOUSNESS. FREEEEeeee... To beeee... Dooooo.... Or Haaaaave anything you so desire.

Because you are being and becoming it evermore naturally and effortlessly and joyously here and now.

Sorry, but I still beg to differ. It's been proven that even animals can literally die from loneliness, and we humans are an animal species too. Believe what you want, but I'm 100% sure you can't just all of a sudden turn off a switch like that and stop craving for what your heart calls out to. Maybe life unfolded differently for you as for others, and that's fine. Doesn't mean it works the same way for everyone else.
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Am I to believe if I follow those instructions properly that out of nowhere a pile of cash suddenly teleports in front of me? Or more like the government suddenly bribes me for no reason? Riiiiight…

Money is the worst drug of them all, and you shouldn't desire more if you already have enough to come around.
The law of attraction influences more than just wealth/money. The law of attraction influences how you perceive/view (your) reality. It is mostly about living in true/absolute reality by doing meditation Raja yoga in your every day- day to day life-being your inner self feeling of I AM/feeling of being, which is the present presence, the stillness in which all thoughts/concepts rises to. The outer thinker ego self is the filter/sensor of all thoughts/concepts that either accepts or rejects thoughts and concepts, The outer ego self/I puts all his/her attention/focus on his/her thoughts and concepts, while awareness is aware/conscious of everything, including the thinker outer ego self.
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Sorry but all of that sounds like a load bollocks. The world would be such a better place if it wasn't all about money. What I said is true, money is like the root of most evils because people kill each other over it and are addicted to it. And of course the females usually only prefer the wealthy, arrogant guys. Not to mention, those living in poverty. Imagine if there was no money, nobody would be poor and literally everyone would be equal without being looked down upon.

As for me, I am not wealthy but I have plenty of money to do my own thing so I don't even need or want more unless if I am in trouble. I am not denying myself any desires at all (which have nothing to do with money) but instead craving very badly for them.

On a side note, I am definitely not an extension of this miserable world and those simians called humans. I believe in a one-ness with nature, but not in a spiritual sense.
Money is not the root of all evil. Greed and lust for money is the root of all evil, along with lust for power. Money is just a concept, and has no real value, money is not worth the paper or metal money is made out of these days. Money does give you freedom though and that is where I draw the line.

Edit: life-being and becoming is about freedom, being and doing what you/your inner I AM wants and desires. Being selfless by doing karma yoga, which is doing work for works sake/doing work for god or your inner (higher) self without wanting a reward is for your ego, not your inner (higher) self to overcome his/her negative mental and emotional programming/conditioning.
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Sorry, but I still beg to differ. It's been proven that even animals can literally die from loneliness, and we humans are an animal species too. Believe what you want, but I'm 100% sure you can't just all of a sudden turn off a switch like that and stop craving for what your heart calls out to. Maybe life unfolded differently for you as for others, and that's fine. Doesn't mean it works the same way for everyone else.
I get what Ewwerrin is saying and it is a very good thing to have a discussion about. There is a big different between wants- desires and cravings. Having cravings is being needy when you do not need to be needy in the first place.
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From what i experienced so far,the subconsious can reach and influence others.At first it'll take the quickest path,affecting those you are energeticaly connected(relatives,friends).
In a way, you are correct. Our subconscious is our memory, beliefs, knowledge etc and we usually pick up those beliefs, knowledge and etc from someone else.
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