Jesus died, not such a big deal

[bees]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

Meanwhile, the arrogance, disregard, lack of gratitude which is expressed in this topic thread was forecast and prophesied by St. Paul, involving the end of days.

Prophecies are cyclical and not so important, as how we react and live ourselves.

These threads are a form of trolling, but represent the outer manifestation of anger, hurt and suffering of one who has chosen this as his topic. It could have been other things. It's more sadness for him; a truly spiritual religion is not harmed by opinions. That is why regardless of religion, the Spirit will always be more effective than the Letter. In Christianity, which I am not too familiar with, there are spiritual messages but perhaps drowned by many of the literal messages and beliefs that do seem to pose some contradiction and reliance on beliefs.

IMO.

[Busby]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

Meanwhile, the arrogance, disregard, lack of gratitude which is expressed in this topic thread was forecast and prophesied by St. Paul, involving the end of days.

As I said, I grew up amongst JWs, that which you said, above, rings a bell.

[knightofalbion]

Originally Posted by beesliketoplay

Prophecies are cyclical and not so important, as how we react and live ourselves.

These threads are a form of trolling, but represent the outer manifestation of anger, hurt and suffering of one who has chosen this as his topic. It could have been other things. It's more sadness for him; a truly spiritual religion is not harmed by opinions. That is why regardless of religion, the Spirit will always be more effective than the Letter. In Christianity, which I am not too familiar with, there are spiritual messages but perhaps drowned by many of the literal messages and beliefs that do seem to pose some contradiction and reliance on beliefs.

What a wonderful post. Full of wisdom and insight.

[Zigzangle]

Originally Posted by beesliketoplay

Prophecies are cyclical and not so important, as how we react and live ourselves.

These threads are a form of trolling, but represent the outer manifestation of anger, hurt and suffering of one who has chosen this as his topic. It could have been other things. It's more sadness for him; a truly spiritual religion is not harmed by opinions. That is why regardless of religion, the Spirit will always be more effective than the Letter. In Christianity, which I am not too familiar with, there are spiritual messages but perhaps drowned by many of the literal messages and beliefs that do seem to pose some contradiction and reliance on beliefs.

IMO.

I make no apology for my thoughts on extreme Christianity which can be extremely abusive!

[Miss Hepburn]

''everlasting destruction...''

Ah, I am so glad I know, now, personally, the Creator of All is Pure Love
and is not some insane Being setting fire to His toes...
as if He were a mental patient acting out on His own beloved children.

Oh, to be free from the primitive mind of early man and his savage images
of some jealous Being that would be appeased by
virgins thrown into a volcano or slitting goats throats...and here it still remains in the minds of men for centuries.

But, hey, I'm too busy loving God personally, than worshipping some
Being made up in a book that wants us innocent, slow learning bozos to be
(((eternally in torture)))!

What a projection from the immature fears of men's minds!
Oy vey!
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Originally Posted by Morpheus

If Yeshua were not God Himself, the very Word of the Almighty incarnate, His sacrifice wouldn't have any value.
Which the JW's cannot accept.

But, when He stated to the Jews querying Him,
"Before Abraham was, "I AM"... they took up stones to execute him. When He asked them why, they replied...
"Because you make yourself equal with God". They knew what He was stating about His identity.

Unlike the JW's.

Meanwhile, the arrogance, disregard, lack of gratitude which is expressed in this topic thread was forecast and prophesied by St. Paul, involving the end of days.

Let me introduce you to the true God and his will.
Deut 32:4--All of Gods ways are =JUSTICE)-- perfect balance on Gods justice scales. So lets look at reality

A perfect sinless mortal( Adam) rebelled and lost a good standing for all mortals with God.--Justice applied--- A perfect sinless mortal( Jesus) lived a sinless existence, but paid in full the wages of sin he did not owe( the ransom sacrifice) handing this sacrifice to his God and Father upon his return to heaven--- God did not come down here, there would be no justice involved unless the one who came could have failed( thus satans attempt in the wilderness to get Jesus to sin at his weakest point( 40 days fasting)--Satan wouldn't have bothered if Jesus couldn't have failed. Or if Jesus were God.


Fact-- everything the Pharisees were saying about Jesus were lies. Jesus only answered the question posed to him. certain religions twist it into meaning something else just like the Pharisees did. I am has 0 to do with who God is. I am that I am is error in the OT--I will be what I will be is more correct in that Hebrew statement.

[Dan_SF]

Originally Posted by kjw47

Gods written word has already condemned--rebels, into the lake of fire= everlasting destruction. Including satan and his angels. Rev 20:7-10

God does not Condemn. Because then, he would be in a Need to forgive. And this Circle would make him like a Human. He does not make mistakes of the Humans, that's why he is God.

Originally Posted by MissHepburn

''everlasting destruction...''

Ah, I am so glad I know, now, personally, the Creator of All is Pure Love
and is not some insane Being setting fire to His toes...
as if He were a mental patient acting out on His own beloved children.

Oh, to be free from the primitive mind of early man and his savage images
of some jealous Being that would be appeased by
virgins thrown into a volcano or slitting goats throats...and here it still remains in the minds of men for centuries.

But, hey, I'm too busy loving God personally, than worshipping some
Being made up in a book that wants us innocent, slow learning bozos to be
(((eternally in torture)))!

What a projection from the immature fears of men's minds!
Oy vey!

Nicely said, i love it.

[Kerubiel]

Originally Posted by Zigzangle

I make no apology for my thoughts on extreme Christianity which can be extremely abusive!

You are an extreme hypocrite. In my path we have a saying "never become like the tyrants you detest." You are doing exactly that. You despise extreme christians and yet you are the exact opposite, going around being insulting, rude, aggressive and distasteful, every chance you get.

[Michelle11]

This thread is being closed. It has become argumentative and disruptive.