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Old 15-04-2011, 12:53 PM
athribiristan athribiristan is offline
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I rarely see this discussed, anywhere. I obtained this information myself only few weeks ago and i´d like to share it with this community. It´s regarding known scientific facts about how the brain works regarding belief. I know that many people are open to new ideas and aspects on other beliefs and religions, but in most of the cases i have witnessed, there is no such thing.

Heres the explanation:

The human brain consists of two hemispheres.

Of course the both hemispheres work in many many ways, but this is regarding belief only.

The right hemisphere is the hemisphere that retrieves new information and proposes the new information to the left hemisphere, which will then review the information and collect all information that matches with current logical understanding of things. Heres the important part. If you have constructed strong beliefs about something, theres little possibility that you will look seriously at new information that might contradict your current beliefs. Not only do you refuse new ideas, if you have established a strong belief, and understanding system. You will perceive contradicting information as a threat. A threat identical to how humans act when they feel as if their lives may be in danger, or their reputation. A desperate, defensive act. Non logical.

I think that knowing this information i have given is crucial to know, to any human being that is on his or her road to religious self brainwashing. If you have as i have said before, developed stuck up, stubborn beliefs regarding this or that, you may even perceive this information as a threat to your beliefs, thus ignoring the meaning of former written information.

I have nothing more to say, state your opinions as you please.


This is all very true.....to the extent that we identify with our brains. As a spirit, my thoughts originate prior to the physical brain, and only wind up there if I send them there. While its true that my brain gets stuck following is programming, I as spirit am not bound by that restraint. Furthermore, I can reprogram my brain to be open to any and all new information if I need to.

What you say is valid for most people, but it doesn't have to be that way.
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Old 15-04-2011, 02:18 PM
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It is as quantum physics has said; you can't have a universe without mind entering into it. The Kybalion states that THE ALL IS MIND; the universe is mental. So none of this is really surprising when it comes to discoveries of the mind.

Scientists also tell us that the brain is not the mind, but rather the machine that the mind operates. This can be seen when someone sustains a head injury and the brain is damaged. The injured person's thoughts can be crystal clear, but getting the body and vocal chords to do what they desire may not be attainable. Hence the the brain is the computer that runs the physical body systems; but mind can be in tact when the brain is not working properly.

Of course some scientists who are hell bent to try to disprove anything spiritual, (as the mind of atheism usually is,) Will try to tell us that the brain is the mind... but this is incorrect. And this is why we have so much dishonest science in our modern age, because many are trying to prove their opinion rather than just find the facts.

It has been proven that we can effect the spirit from two very different directions.

We can do outward things like prayer, meditation, or different practices that effect the physical chemistry of the brain. The sudden rise of kundalini can literally "blow the mind" and break up incrusted beliefs. We can also effect the mind directly with energy practices like Qi Gong , Tai Chi, and yoga.

We can also use inward things like zen's in the moment awareness and affirmation to change the thought patterns as they come up. When we change the thoughts we can change the mind.

Either way works because what is above is below. If we change one, the other will change too.
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Old 18-04-2011, 04:12 AM
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Well. I´m sorry for my grammatical errors general dictionary. I´m just not a native english speaker.
~smiles~ Ah, thanks for the clarification deztini3. Now I understand you better.
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Old 20-04-2011, 01:34 AM
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~smiles~ Ah, thanks for the clarification deztini3. Now I understand you better.

My irony sensor was sensing something after i read that post
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Old 20-04-2011, 04:40 AM
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My irony sensor was sensing something after i read that post
I can do nothing for you regarding your interpretations of my words or actions deztini3.
I didn't understand your word usage, I asked for clarification, you gave it, I now understand why you used those words.

Please, what is the irony you are sensing?
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Old 20-04-2011, 05:04 AM
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"Scientific Facts" <====== The New Age Religion!
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Old 20-04-2011, 09:59 AM
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"Scientific Facts" <====== The New Age Religion!
Not at all. Science is continually unveiling truths regarding the makeup of substance and reality that mystics throughout the ages have long been aware of. No, today's new-age religion is much like the old-timey religion from the past -- subjective, dogmatic intellectualizing and apocalyptic fear-mongering, masquerading as "spiritual truth."
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Old 20-04-2011, 11:33 AM
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Not at all. Science is continually unveiling truths regarding the makeup of substance and reality that mystics throughout the ages have long been aware of. No, today's new-age religion is much like the old-timey religion from the past -- subjective, dogmatic intellectualizing and apocalyptic fear-mongering, masquerading as "spiritual truth."
Not at all. We hear it everyday about these 'Scientific facts' and we kinda tend to believe it, but the manner of how those scientists gather these facts is always questionable. Same story as religion. And there happens alot of these so called facts to be wrong over the time. Science is not like dealing with the truth straightforward. It's about dealing with certain subjects with certain methods.
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Old 20-04-2011, 02:21 PM
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Science is not like dealing with the truth straightforward. It's about dealing with certain subjects with certain methods.
Science is at one end of the knowledge spectrum, religion at the other, yes. Neither can be taken as the ultimate fountain of universal wisdom. Religion often fails due to dogmatic reasoning born of subjective feeling. Science often fails as a result of the intellectual and close-minded approach scientists use to explain away the phenomena we see and experience in the world.

Yet at the same time, both have something substantive and important to share regarding life and the human condition. But to write one or the other off as incorrect isn't the answer. I'd liken that particular POV to people who dismiss new-age philosophy, yet start threads about 2012 prophecies and healing with crystals. It's all part of the whole. We can't separate science and religion out from the world we've created, and from who we are as individuals. Scientific and religious understanding has made us who we are.

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