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Old 26-02-2013, 12:32 PM
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Where Can I debate with teachers ?

For years , I am trying to debate with any Buddhism teacher / master of any tradition who is currently teaching Buddhism in schools or monastry ...and my reason for debate is simple , I just trying to learn what makes them have emotion to be teacher , desire to teach others in Buddhism ..........

To me their insight , perhaps their realization is great for me to discover myself , perhaps even factor that change me .........currently I cant find any logic for anyone including Siddharta to have emotion to teach ....to me currently , Buddhism is impossible to be taught .

So if I could find out the teacher realization for teaching others in Buddhism , this will be great learning lesson for me ............

Please do not mis-taken me being ego or proud ............I have nothing , will be no-body.....without any desire to be somebody ....So any master wish to help in here or email me at [email protected]

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Old 26-02-2013, 04:09 PM
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I'm no master and not a teacher of Buddhism, but I do love to learn through debate or exchange of ideas.

From what I know about teaching, I imagine the drive/desire/emotions to spurn action are similar to other mediums/fields of study.

Okay, so personally it's a passion or shear joy of the subject, and through a desire to share this passion with others; one teaches, for through sharing of knowledge one's own joy amplifies.

There is also the aspect of....a lighting effect, like one was hit by lighting, and a desire to aid others or mitigation of suffering through sharing one's realizations. Or to function as an aid to open the path for the individual to receive their own lighting strikes.

Then there are those who teach due to family pressure, expectations etc. Usually you can tell who those are.

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Buddhism is impossible to be taught
I agree, there are concepts which can be known, but to feel it, one has to experience it for oneself.

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So if I could find out the teacher realization for teaching others in Buddhism , this will be great learning lesson for me ............
Do you think you are at that stage of development where you need to contact the teacher within? Or trailblaze?
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Old 26-02-2013, 09:32 PM
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I didn't think Buddha teacher would debate, like why would they bother ??
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Old 27-02-2013, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CSEe
For years , I am trying to debate with any Buddhism teacher / master of any tradition who is currently teaching Buddhism in schools or monastry ...and my reason for debate is simple , I just trying to learn what makes them have emotion to be teacher , desire to teach others in Buddhism ..........

To me their insight , perhaps their realization is great for me to discover myself , perhaps even factor that change me .........currently I cant find any logic for anyone including Siddharta to have emotion to teach ....to me currently , Buddhism is impossible to be taught .

So if I could find out the teacher realization for teaching others in Buddhism , this will be great learning lesson for me ............

Please do not mis-taken me being ego or proud ............I have nothing , will be no-body.....without any desire to be somebody ....So any master wish to help in here or email me at [email protected]

Thks

CSEe

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You want to 'learn' why others teach what you feel can't be learned?
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Old 27-02-2013, 03:00 AM
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Where Can I debate with teachers ?
I never heard of a monk debating with somebody before, only monks kicking a**es in the movies.
The earnest monk students I know of are found in monasteries.
Some people from all over the world go to Thailand, India, Tibet, and China to serve and learn from the true Masters.
So, if you are in Malaysia,
you should be able to find real monks at the nearby town if not in yours.
But if you just really want to learn,
check out Llewellyn for books which may help you -
that, and visiting a temple of your choice anywhere near you
where you should be able to talk to a guru/master.
No need to travel across the world anymore just to pursue your personal spiritual developement.
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Old 27-02-2013, 03:32 AM
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What makes a master wanna teach others in Buddhism?
Ok, this is the question I was suppose to answer first.
I just had to remember about Bodhisattva -
as a man amongst us who devotes his entire life for the attainment of perfection, ultimately becoming a fully Enlightened Buddha for the welfare of the world, for the happiness of the world.
So, when you finally fully understand that, you hopefully find the answer to the question.

May I suggest further reading in Theravada Buddhism? It is what is sought after by some people who goes and stays at the monasteries in Thailand.


re: http://www.urbandharma.org/udharma3/theramaya.html
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Old 27-02-2013, 03:35 AM
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What makes a master wanna teach others in Buddhism?
Ok, this is the question I was suppose to answer first.
I just had to remember about Bodhisattva -
as a man amongst us who devotes his entire life for the attainment of perfection, ultimately becoming a fully Enlightened Buddha for the welfare of the world, for the happiness of the world.
So, when you finally fully understand that, you hopefully find the answer to question.

May I suggest further reading in Theravada Buddhism? It is what is sought after by some people who goes and stays at the monasteries in Thailand.


re: http://www.urbandharma.org/udharma3/theramaya.html
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Old 27-02-2013, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Sheep
I'm no master and not a teacher of Buddhism, but I do love to learn through debate or exchange of ideas.

From what I know about teaching, I imagine the drive/desire/emotions to spurn action are similar to other mediums/fields of study.

Okay, so personally it's a passion or shear joy of the subject, and through a desire to share this passion with others; one teaches, for through sharing of knowledge one's own joy amplifies.

There is also the aspect of....a lighting effect, like one was hit by lighting, and a desire to aid others or mitigation of suffering through sharing one's realizations. Or to function as an aid to open the path for the individual to receive their own lighting strikes.

Then there are those who teach due to family pressure, expectations etc. Usually you can tell who those are.

I agree, there are concepts which can be known, but to feel it, one has to experience it for oneself.

Do you think you are at that stage of development where you need to contact the teacher within? Or trailblaze?

Thanks for sharing , I had and now I realize there is nothing special about the " teacher within" as all being is great source .
Thks
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Old 27-02-2013, 11:01 AM
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You want to 'learn' why others teach what you feel can't be learned?

Anything can be learn but I can find any reason for one to teach .........I do not need to create desire to teach others or have any emotion being better than others.......I realized I am same and equal with any human , any animal or te dirt under your shoes .......my understand that Buddhism cant be taught is current ...never a beliefs or faith or something that must be true .....I am always ready to change view if I find logic of others understanding .
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Old 27-02-2013, 11:04 AM
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I never heard of a monk debating with somebody before, only monks kicking a**es in the movies.
The earnest monk students I know of are found in monasteries.
Some people from all over the world go to Thailand, India, Tibet, and China to serve and learn from the true Masters.
So, if you are in Malaysia,
you should be able to find real monks at the nearby town if not in yours.
But if you just really want to learn,
check out Llewellyn for books which may help you -
that, and visiting a temple of your choice anywhere near you
where you should be able to talk to a guru/master.
No need to travel across the world anymore just to pursue your personal spiritual developement.

Thanks for sharing , I just looking for anyone to debate Buddhism prefered a monk or teacher that currently teaches buddhism regardless they are ' real monk' or not .......
thks
CSEe

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