advice for raising your vibration to help with astral projection.

[dutchiexx]

Originally Posted by Lorelyen

Sorry I'm being a bit pedestrian today but I don't quite understand. I won't go through your whole post though, just some bits.


You'll have to explain to me how vibration separates dimensions, what these dimensions are.

Light is a bit of a puzzle. Could be my science is out of date. Light seems to behave sometimes as a wave, sometimes as a stream of particles. If you think about lenses it seems to act as a wave. If you think about the inverse square law it acts as particles. I don't know if the debate about its travelling through space. A wave of any sort would need a medium which doesn't exist in the vacuum of space... so I thought anyway. But I'm no scientist.

I'm ok with sound and infrasound.


something impossible to check. In discussion before about "vibration-raising" I checked myself on an oscilloscope of which I have one but the mains electricity supply had inducted itself into me as I was at 50Hz and at an amplitude that surprised me! Naturally it contained a lot of harmonics. You mention 3D but conventionally physics assigns the 4th dimension to time. Something must have duration to exist, let alone vibrate which has a periodicity if a frequency. (Noise is different, being composed of random pulses).


I'm ok with resonance, tuned circuits and sympathetic vibration, not so sure about the sir bit.

But...how does this relate to the human condition above subatomic level and more particularly to astral travel? Your discussion is most informative but it says nothing about the processing that results in imagination, intuition etc, the visual or sonic stuff that comes from the inside outward. Nor does it comment on the specialisation of our senses that receive vibrational stimuli. (It's another discussion about how our bodies react to electromagnetism outside the visual range. There's no doubt they do but in a physiological more than spiritual way other than it would affect our tone, the faculties we use in spiritual practices.**) It's all energy which has movement and may have vibration but it's pretty difficult to see how an ordinary human, "being spiritual", can alter the vibrations of any part of their vibratory (let's call it) structure. And if they tried couldn't it be dangerous? because the body is regulated to very close limits, changing only to meet specific conditions?

Like another poster today claims by stopping alcohol his "vibrations soared." How was that? So, since you've been talking about waves, electromagnetic, mechanical and so on, how did he do that? Wouldn't he be dead by now?


Nice sleight of hand there!



** As a teenager I built a little circuit to an Elektor circuit diagram designed just to test this on the brain. I've forgotten what the project was called. I may look it up. It generated VLF electromagnetic waves from about 3Hz to 15Hz or something similar using a coil wound round a coach bolt for the magnet; probably a triangle wave oscillator. I remember 8Hz getting me very relaxed; another probably higher making sleep easy. (If anyone here has old copies of Elektor going way back, or remembers the project, please say! I'd love to run up another one.

i just explained how vibrations seperate the dimensions, i even showed the science behind it, which all can be verified yourself with a few google searches.
as for the resonance vibration frequency of matter, this can be determined and is quite possible, how ever, i understand that searching google for the phrase " resonance vibrations or matters frequency" will not supply you with the info your looking for, this is my fault, i should have pointed out that you should search for The Schumann resonances.

"The Schumann resonances (SR) are a set of spectrum peaks in the extremely low frequency (ELF) portion of the Earth's electromagnetic field spectrum. Schumann resonances are global electromagnetic resonances, generated and excited by lightning discharges in the cavity formed by the Earth's surface and the ionosphere."

"This global electromagnetic resonance phenomenon is named after physicist Winfried Otto Schumann who predicted it mathematically in 1952. Schumann resonances occur because the space between the surface of the Earth and the conductive ionosphere acts as a closed waveguide. The limited dimensions of the Earth cause this waveguide to act as a resonant cavity for electromagnetic waves in the ELF band. The cavity is naturally excited by electric currents in lightning. Schumann resonances are the principal background in the electromagnetic spectrum[1] beginning at 3 Hz and extending to 60 Hz,[2] and appear as distinct peaks at extremely low frequencies (ELF) around 7.83 (fundamental),[3] 14.3, 20.8, 27.3 and 33.8 Hz.[1][4]

In the normal mode descriptions of Schumann resonances, the fundamental mode is a standing wave in the Earth–ionosphere cavity with a wavelength equal to the circumference of the Earth. This lowest-frequency (and highest-intensity) mode of the Schumann resonance occurs at a frequency of approximately 7.83 Hz, but this frequency can vary slightly from a variety of factors, such as solar-induced perturbations to the ionosphere, which compresses the upper wall of the closed cavity.[citation needed] The higher resonance modes are spaced at approximately 6.5 Hz intervals,[citation needed] a characteristic attributed to the atmosphere's spherical geometry. The peaks exhibit a spectral width of approximately 20% on account of the damping of the respective modes in the dissipative cavity. The 8th partial lies at approximately 60 Hz.[citation needed]

Observations of Schumann resonances have been used to track global lightning activity. Owing to the connection between lightning activity and the Earth's climate it has been suggested that they may also be used to monitor global temperature variations and variations of water vapor in the upper troposphere. It has been speculated that extraterrestrial lightning (on other planets) may also be detected and studied by means of their Schumann resonance signatures. Schumann resonances have been used to study the lower ionosphere on Earth and it has been suggested as one way to explore the lower ionosphere on celestial bodies. Effects on Schumann resonances have been reported following geomagnetic and ionospheric disturbances. More recently, discrete Schumann resonance excitations have been linked to transient luminous events – sprites, elves, jets, and other upper-atmospheric lightning.[citation needed] A new field of interest using Schumann resonances is related to short-term earthquake prediction"

as for light waves, they are not as tricky as you would believe.
i can tell you gained your understanding of lights behavior from reading about the double slit experiment, this is great, how ever, i suggest for you to go back and do a little more research on this subject because there is a few things you seem to misunderstand about the concepts that this experiment is proposing.see, light acts as a particle when being observed or monitored, it acts like a wave when its not being observed or monitored.
have you ever heard people talk about how everything that possibly can happen has happen? this suggest that us humans sub consciously choose which reality we experience, the double slit experiment has shown that if they fire a single particle through a slit, without observing it, then in fact, this particle will act as a wave and pass through BOTH slits at the SAME time.this is related to the theory that everything that can possibly happen will happen, its just up to us to choose what we experience, to go even deeper into this, it means that reality itself is constantly splitting into infinate possibilities, one outcome always leads to another outcome, thus creating a infinite loop of events.
there very presence of our conscious mind effects the very nature of how matter behaves, this is the main point with the double slit experiment, there is no way to denie this fact, it can and has been reproduced in many labs and all scientist have had the same exact resault, so now, its time to begin to understand how and why this happens, science has not yet developed enough to be able to handle these concepts, but science is on its way at a rapid pace.

so ill say one last time, dimensions are seperated by vibrations, if an object vibration is out of the range in which our human bodies or machines can detect or perceive, then that object can be considered to be out of this dimension.
this is achieved by an objects vibration, for instance, its vibration so high that the light it reflects and emits are not in our detectable spectrum, causing this object to not be visable.we wont be able to see it.the sound this object may emit will be of the vibration its resonating at, thus, the sounds will not be in our audible spectrum, we cant hear it.the vibration of the energy its made of will be vibrating at a such a high frequency, that it pass through the more solid and dense matter of this dimension or world, thus, we cant feel it.
so what do we end up with when an objects vibration frequency is higher then what we can perceive?
we end up with something that we cant feel, touch, see or hear, its virtually non existance to us.

also, if you have died or astral projected, you would understand these concepts, i have astral projected many times before, i have verified that its real, i have verified that its not just some trick of my mind, i verified info i received while projecting and it matched with the info in this physical world.
so please, if you still are skeptical or dont fully understand the things im telling you, then you should practice projection yourself, this way, you can learn from your own hand and not by what others tell you.cause in this reality, no one can fully prove these concepts in science nor can they disprove them, its simply beyond our current abilities.

Originally Posted by Lorelyen

** As a teenager I built a little circuit to an Elektor circuit diagram designed just to test this on the brain. I've forgotten what the project was called. I may look it up. It generated VLF electromagnetic waves from about 3Hz to 15Hz or something similar using a coil wound round a coach bolt for the magnet; probably a triangle wave oscillator. I remember 8Hz getting me very relaxed; another probably higher making sleep easy. (If anyone here has old copies of Elektor going way back, or remembers the project, please say! I'd love to run up another one.

Should anyone be interested, I FOUND this project. It's in Elektor No 31
(1977 No 11) - sheesh 1977 before I was born!
Never mind. It comes with a little write up about the experimenters and their research and it's really easy to build if you have the bits (not many). It was unromantically called "The Magnetiser".

At school everyone had to do a little electronic project. I found a couple of volumes of the magazine in the library. As I was already interested in matters spiritual and adjusting one's consciousness, mine had to be something like this. Others were making LED flashers, rain detectors and things.

That particular issue of Elektor (plus the 1977 No 10) had a few projects about things paranormal and weird stuff!

Perhaps I can create a Twin Flame Compatibility Meter!

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Originally Posted by dutchiexx

i just explained how vibrations seperate the dimensions, i even showed the science behind it, which all can be verified yourself with a few google searches.

No.

Well, ok, I could immerse myself in a few google searches and spend time reading but I hoped there was a less time-consuming answer - What dimensions? (the 4 of physics?) And I suppose, why would someone want to separate them? and How do vibrations achieve the separation (once we know what dimensions we're talking about)? But never mind. Like I said, I'm no scientist.

"The Schumann resonances (SR) are a set of spectrum peaks in the extremely low frequency (ELF) portion of the Earth's electromagnetic field spectrum.....
........... but science is on its way at a rapid pace.

ok I read what you say.

so ill say one last time, dimensions are seperated by vibrations, if an object vibration is out of the range in which our human bodies or machines can detect or perceive, then that object can be considered to be out of this dimension.

I can't buy that. 150 years ago, if you couldn't see it through a microscope it didn't exist in this/these dimensions? Then in 1926 came the electron microscope.....

this is achieved by an objects vibration, for instance, its vibration so high that the light it reflects and emits are not in our detectable spectrum, causing this object to not be visable.we wont be able to see it.the sound this object may emit will be of the vibration its resonating at, thus, the sounds will not be in our audible spectrum, we cant hear it.the vibration of the energy its made of will be vibrating at a such a high frequency, that it pass through the more solid and dense matter of this dimension or world, thus, we cant feel it.

But we come back again to the basis of the electron microscope, the wavelength of the electron, 100,000x shorter than that of visible light. We can't see it. 150 years ago it didn't exist? But it does. Here are the vibrations of the atom, the electron....

so what do we end up with when an objects vibration frequency is higher then what we can perceive?
we end up with something that we cant feel, touch, see or hear, its virtually non existance to us.

Again i can't accept that. But...let it go. We're moving into the realm of belief and philosophy now.

also, if you have died or astral projected, you would understand these concepts, i have astral projected many times before, i have verified that its real, i have verified that its not just some trick of my mind, i verified info i received while projecting and it matched with the info in this physical world.
so please, if you still are skeptical or dont fully understand the things im telling you, then you should practice projection yourself, this way, you can learn from your own hand and not by what others tell you.cause in this reality, no one can fully prove these concepts in science nor can they disprove them, its simply beyond our current abilities.

Hold on! Of course I've done this. I'm not exactly new to these techniques. Perhaps from more traditional roots, the minutiae of vibrations and the materials you've brought to the discussion present a different approach. I have to say I've been more concerned with form and content than the mechanics.

But there it is. I'm not reliant on fact. Much of this is noumenal but I like to think that anything presented as fact has a basis in it somewhere along the line. Hence my curiosity and asking.

Thank you for your responses.

[Melahin]

Originally Posted by dutchiexx

i just explained how vibrations seperate the dimensions

I actually think that the idea of vibration is the one thing that keeps most from achieving AP. I know one who is an adept in AP that stopped teaching people because they were so hung up on vibrations. And I often keep from this part because of the same thing. AP is one of the most easy things to do. You inherently know how to do it before you screw it up with beliefs that muddies the waters of your mind. It is not about vibration, but about belief; the belief of whether or not you believe you can do it. If you believe you can do it, you just simply do it; if you believe you have to jump through hoops to do it, then that is the way you will approach it. But it is just like casting a spell, all the mambo jumbo is to get you in the right mood, not a necessity for the spell to work.

If you believed that nothing was separate, then you would also believe that you not just could be anywhere you desired to be, but that you already are there, and then all it really takes is the mere change in focus, not a change in vibration.

But that is just me coming from a belief that there is only one world, and that world is non-dimensional. You could try it out or not; it is up to you what way you desire to experience life. Either way if you focus long enough on it, then the truth will be served to you. Some even suggest that is law. I just suggest that there is nothing but truth, and whatever truth you focus on becomes reality haha

[dutchiexx]

Originally Posted by Lorelyen

No.

Well, ok, I could immerse myself in a few google searches and spend time reading but I hoped there was a less time-consuming answer - What dimensions? (the 4 of physics?) And I suppose, why would someone want to separate them? and How do vibrations achieve the separation (once we know what dimensions we're talking about)? But never mind. Like I said, I'm no scientist.



ok I read what you say.


I can't buy that. 150 years ago, if you couldn't see it through a microscope it didn't exist in this/these dimensions? Then in 1926 came the electron microscope.....
But we come back again to the basis of the electron microscope, the wavelength of the electron, 100,000x shorter than that of visible light. We can't see it. 150 years ago it didn't exist? But it does. Here are the vibrations of the atom, the electron....
Again i can't accept that. But...let it go. We're moving into the realm of belief and philosophy now.

Hold on! Of course I've done this. I'm not exactly new to these techniques. Perhaps from more traditional roots, the minutiae of vibrations and the materials you've brought to the discussion present a different approach. I have to say I've been more concerned with form and content than the mechanics.

But there it is. I'm not reliant on fact. Much of this is noumenal but I like to think that anything presented as fact has a basis in it somewhere along the line. Hence my curiosity and asking.

Thank you for your responses.

bruuuh, how are you still confused about vibrations seperating dimensions?
i mean, its not possible to me to explain more clearly then i already did.
let me ask you this, what do you think a dimension is?
yes, in the 3d, its 3 dimensions because of axis of direction, how ever, once you move to a higher dimension, say the fourth, then that 4th dimensions has a 4th variable, see, 3d=3 variable, 4d=4 variables ect..
a dimension is simply a reality of perception.your vibration determines the dimension you experience as your reality.if you raise your vibration, you experience a reality that matches your vibration.have you heard of the laws of attraction? the notions behind law of attraction is the same with dimensions, meaning, you attract energy that matches your energies vibration.see, it is not possible to even exist in this 3d universe if your vibration does not match this dimensions vibration.this applies to any annd all states of being and dimensions.

im sorry, but i dont think there is any more ways i can explain these concepts to you.if your not willing to do some research on what i talk about, then you must not be all that interested in these matters.

at least i can say that I tried! <------- Adel :)

Originally Posted by dutchiexx

bruuuh, how are you still confused about vibrations seperating dimensions?
i mean, its not possible to me to explain more clearly then i already did.
let me ask you this, what do you think a dimension is?
yes, in the 3d, its 3 dimensions because of axis of direction, how ever, once you move to a higher dimension, say the fourth, then that 4th dimensions has a 4th variable, see, 3d=3 variable, 4d=4 variables ect..
a dimension is simply a reality of perception.your vibration determines the dimension you experience as your reality.if you raise your vibration, you experience a reality that matches your vibration.have you heard of the laws of attraction? the notions behind law of attraction is the same with dimensions, meaning, you attract energy that matches your energies vibration.see, it is not possible to even exist in this 3d universe if your vibration does not match this dimensions vibration.this applies to any annd all states of being and dimensions.

im sorry, but i dont think there is any more ways i can explain these concepts to you.if your not willing to do some research on what i talk about, then you must not be all that interested in these matters.

at least i can say that I tried! <------- Adel :)

I'm not prepared to discuss this further since you didn't answer a fundamental question. No point pressing the issue.

The law of attraction isn't a law - it's a wild supposition trying to anchor itself on the idea of sympathetic vibration but with no evidence of its predictability. One of those things I quite detest - someone comes up with a vague observation and gradually pushes it as being fact. Eventually new authors or wafflers assume it is fact and try to found new stuff upon it. You don't build a great edifice on a foundation of waffle - at least, not without the maple syrup.

I'm ok with LOA but let's not treat is as fact, factually based. It was promulgated by a theosophist who turned out to be a fraud. It's been restated by a current-day "guru" who himself is a fraud hiding behind a professional qualification.

You seem quite unclear on how you alter the hugely complex interplay of vibrations that allow your physical organism from continuing to live.

Anyway, that project I mentioned talked about research into the effects of ELF electromagnetism on the organism. It may be of interest.

The effect of magnetic fields

The penetration of an alternating electromagnetic field is determined by
its frequency. As long as the frequency in the ELF range the electric
field can be ignored. The alternating magnetic field on the other hand
will induce eddy currents throughout the entire organism thereby causing
shifts in the charge of the cell membranes. This stimulates the nervous
system, removing any blockages that may exist.**

For example it was noticed that at frequencies below 8Hz, a widening of
the blood vessels occurred while at frequencies about 12Hz the blood
vessels became narrower.

Experiments have also shown that the sensitivity of an individual to
magnetic fields can be quite frequency dependent. It is at a maximum at the
frequency which coincides with the alpha-rhythm of that person’s EEG.
this is readily explicable in the light of the fact that externally induced
pulses will obviously have the greatest effect upon pulses with which
they are synchronous.

** (not quite sure what the presenter meant by this)
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I might have to make another one of these gadgets, no PCB necessary,
it can be done on a piece of Veroboard.

Originally Posted by Melahin

I actually think that the idea of vibration is the one thing that keeps most from achieving AP. I know one who is an adept in AP that stopped teaching people because they were so hung up on vibrations. And I often keep from this part because of the same thing. AP is one of the most easy things to do. You inherently know how to do it before you screw it up with beliefs that muddies the waters of your mind. It is not about vibration, but about belief; the belief of whether or not you believe you can do it. If you believe you can do it, you just simply do it; if you believe you have to jump through hoops to do it, then that is the way you will approach it. But it is just like casting a spell, all the mambo jumbo is to get you in the right mood, not a necessity for the spell to work.

If you believed that nothing was separate, then you would also believe that you not just could be anywhere you desired to be, but that you already are there, and then all it really takes is the mere change in focus, not a change in vibration.

But that is just me coming from a belief that there is only one world, and that world is non-dimensional. You could try it out or not; it is up to you what way you desire to experience life. Either way if you focus long enough on it, then the truth will be served to you. Some even suggest that is law. I just suggest that there is nothing but truth, and whatever truth you focus on becomes reality haha

Agree. It's almost political in the way it's emerging. A lot of people jumping on bandwagons with their own particular "problems" to complicate things just so they can declare their solutions as the way forward. I avoid the chakras section for the same reason. People are tying themselves in knots.

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[Sojourner2013]

Originally Posted by dutchiexx

raising your vibration becomes easy and natural once when you look at life from the perspective i discribed. this may even allow you to appreciate negative situations, for instance, lets say you fall and break your arm, yes, it would suck and would not be fun, it would hurt a lot @.@
how ever, if you learn to appreciate the fact that you are able to understand pleasure because of pain, then you can manage to manifest positive energy even in a negative moment. (im not saying i would be appreciative though, im still working on myself, and honestly, i would be ****ed for a while o.0)
its not the specifics in my post that matters, its the concepts that matter.
so pretty much, simply look at negative events with a positive perspective, this may easily help you rapidly raise your vibration to produce more positive energy, thus, giving you more energy to use for your astral journey :)

To add onto this thought, if you don't know about or don't experience the ability to shape-shift, that doesn't mean shape-shifting doesn't exist. It simply means that it doesn't exist in your realm of possibilities. Some people know and experience shape-shifting. I did it once, as well. It requires a lot of energy and the removal of all doubt in the possibility. But, IMO, only those people who have mastered the ability to change their vibrational energy know that the ability to shape-shift does indeed exist. The process is very similar to what DutchieXX is trying to convey.

[Melahin]

Originally Posted by Sojourner2013

Some people know and experience shape-shifting. I did it once, as well. It requires a lot of energy and the removal of all doubt in the possibility.

To add onto this thought. I once looked into teleportation like in the movie "Jumper" and that is a load of a channeling of energy. I wanted to find another way and was shown how the world could be perceived as layer upon layer upon layer, and as I each day walk from one layer to another I could simply rearrange the layers and walk from one to another that seemingly did not seem to match, because it is not the layer that places themselves but the mass consciousness that feeds us an idea of how they should be placed. In that there were no more energy involved than that of walking. And as you said talked about doubt, the only reason why I am yet to it as with shapeshifting is that I havent been ready.

So moving towards the point. In the astral it takes me no more energy to shapeshift than it does standing still, because I know that it is not about changing form, but about changing focus. Whatever you desire to shift into you already are. The form like the form of your human self is already active in your vibration, so it really is a shift in focus. Hope it made sense haha

[Melahin]

Originally Posted by Lorelyen

Agree. It's almost political in the way it's emerging. A lot of people jumping on bandwagons with their own particular "problems" to complicate things just so they can declare their solutions as the way forward. I avoid the chakras section for the same reason. People are tying themselves in knots.

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I find you interesting. But yes. It would be far easier if we obsessed about the things we love haha.

Chakras like the application of vibration is irrelevant the moment you realise, in a way that it feels real, that you are already whole and complete. In that moment everything starts to fall into place. Then you also understand that being what you desire to be is not about changing vibration, but about understanding that it changed the moment you desired to be. Like all Christians at a minimum vibrate at the level of their idea of Jesus, it is just that not all of them are in alignment with that which they have desired to be -> Amazing haha