Is the holy Spirit a person ? How do you know ?

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Phaelyn

It's Hallowed not Hollow as any christian who paid even the smallest attention would know. .

Big difference in meaning there!

hallowed
adjective
made holy; consecrated, greatly revered and honored.

hollow
adjective
having a hole or empty space inside, empty, not solid, void, unfilled, vacant, without significance.

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[winter light]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

In the 'Lord's Prayer', Jesus did not pray to himself but to the Father.

Why did Jesus, in that same prayer, say "hollow be thy name" when praying to his Father?

I believe the purpose of these words is to consecrate the relationship between God and ourselves and in doing so to make the moment Holy. There is more going on in the Lords Prayer than a petition to God. I see the prayer as an invocation of the presence and works of God into the world. To reconcile and mend the fences between God and ourselves and between ourselves and one another. To assert that in this creation we shall no longer be led into temptation of acts of separation. And to invoke our deliverance from evil. We are taking responsibility for our creation and creating an opportunity to choose a new path.

[sky]

The Prayer To Our Father
(translated into first century Aramaic)


"Oh Thou, from whom the breath of life comes,

who fills all realms of sound, light and vibration.

May Your light be experienced in my utmost holiest.

Your Heavenly Domain approaches.

Let Your will come true - in the universe (all that vibrates)
just as on earth (that is material and dense).

Give us wisdom (understanding, assistance) for our daily needs.

Detach the fetters of faults that bind us,
like we let go the guilt of others.

Let us not be lost in superficial things (materialism, common temptations),

But let us be freed from that what keeps us off from our true purpose.

From You comes the all-working will, the lively strength to act,
the song that beautifies all and renews itself from age to age.

Amen.
Sealed in trust, faith and truth.
(I confirm with my entire being)

[jojo50]

Originally Posted by Phaelyn

It's Hallowed not Hollow as any christian who paid even the smallest attention would know. .

Big difference in meaning there!

hallowed
adjective
made holy; consecrated, greatly revered and honored.

hollow
adjective
having a hole or empty space inside, empty, not solid, void, unfilled, vacant, without significance.

regardless, it's speaking in past tense. Biblical , Jesus was still saying to his true followers. that the God of Israel's name is to be made Holy or sacred.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Phaelyn

It's Hallowed not Hollow as any christian who paid even the smallest attention would know. .

Big difference in meaning there!

hallowed
adjective
made holy; consecrated, greatly revered and honored.

hollow
adjective
having a hole or empty space inside, empty, not solid, void, unfilled, vacant, without significance.

I do not use archaic English: I use modern English translations.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

I would like to add to my thoughts here --- I believe
Jesus had 'God's power' --not talking about power to do little things like heal, walk on water..
I mean the 'Power of God' in him...these little things were included.
Jesus was no simple son of God in my book...he had it all...the power to forgive, transfer a criminal to Paradise, know all things, etc.


Because of the Title of this thread - I'm going to add ...the Holy Spirit has
visited me so many times over decades...it wasn't until around 2005-6 when I saw a TV pastor talk,
that I said, "OH! Christians call this the Holy Spirit ...yes...ok.
I always called it, (the visits), 'God' period. But, ok it's God's Spirit - so I can say Holy Spirit then, easily."

At that time I wasn't thinking of a Trinity ---the Spirit of God to me was God, period.
(I wasn't Baptized in the Holy Spirit until July 2009.)

No fancy separation in me .

Jesus was and is a god. He was the first born of God. It was thru Jesus' prehuman existence that all things came into existence except himself (Jesus).

[sky]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Jesus was and is a god. He was the first born of God. It was thru Jesus' prehuman existence that all things came into existence except himself (Jesus).

So if Jesus was a God there must be more than one God.
You have just Posted in the other Thread that there is only ONE God in Christianity

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by sky123

So if Jesus was a God there must be more than one God.
You have just Posted in the other Thread that there is only ONE God in Christianity

I used the word god for Jesus. There is a big difference between God and god.

In the other thread, I claimed some Christians claim there is only one God and it is the same God the Jews and Muslims claim as their God.

[sky]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

I used the word god for Jesus. There is a big difference between God and god.

In the other thread, I claimed some Christians claim there is only one God and it is the same God the Jews and Muslims claim as their God.

So you believe Jesus is a god, I haven't come across that before, interesting....

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by sky123

So you believe Jesus is a god, I haven't come across that before, interesting....

I guess you have not been reading most of my posts.

As I have written numerous times, Jesus claimed we are all gods.

Please note: there is a big difference between God and god.