Individuality in oneness.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Hexagon222

So to make the statement that I and the father are one as it means in the Bible then you have been symbolically crucified, died to individuality/the self/ego/personality and thus Christ has been resurrected within..

As individuals we all interpret the Bible differently according to our perceptions.
I personally like what Jesus said, " I am in the Father and the Father is in me"... which is true regarding our DNA....

[Redchic12]

Yep good quote Sky!

[sky]

Originally Posted by Redchic12

Yep good quote Sky!

I wonder if the saying " like Father, like Son " has the same meaning as to what Jesus said

The Orthodox Church distinguishes between image and likeness. We can be the spitting image of our father but not at all be like him.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Molearner

The Orthodox Church distinguishes between image and likeness. We can be the spitting image of our father but not at all be like him.

I'm referring to the 'Essence' rather than physical traits Mo.....

Likeness is essence…..image is physical per Orthodoxy(not me)….

[sky]

Originally Posted by Molearner

Likeness is essence…..image is physical per Orthodoxy(not me)….

Well Orthodoxy and myself will have to agree to diiffer

Originally Posted by sky

Well Orthodoxy and myself will have to agree to diiffer

I assume that you understand likeness is limited to physical appearance…..? And for me likeness means acting like, thinking like etc. It is easy to differ when our understanding of the same words is different..

[Hexagon222]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Which Robert Russel; there are so many? Link?
Sorry, if I missed it in another post somewhere.

From Robert Russell’s book “Getting Better Results From Spiritual Practice”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AUX-Jz...ndex=1&pp=iAQB

Though I think the God/ego reference may be from another book. I’ll get back to you on that.

Originally Posted by sky

"The eye through which I see God is the same eye through which God sees me; my eye and God’s eye are one eye, one seeing, one knowing, one love.”
Meister Eckhart .

In oneness the seer, the seeing, and the seen are the same.... Imo.

Continuing on with what Meister Eckhart has called the annihilation of self.

From Robert Russell’s “Getting Better Results From Spiritual Practice”
Page 111
As long as the soul has not thrown off all her veils , however thin, she is unable to see God. Meister Eckhart

From the book “Meister Eckhart from Whom God Hid Nothing”

“one of the things beloved of God is riddance of self.”
Meister Eckhart

“There never was a struggle or a battle wich required greater valor than that in which a man forgets or denies himself.“
Meister Eckhart

Now unless we have had some degree of separation between ego and what you are beyond the human being then none of this will make any sense. Without experiencing God or The Divine there is no incentive to come after it and deny thyself in order to get closer to it. One of the ways to find God is we do what the Bible says and that is to seek God with all our heart and if we do so we will find God. IMO

[Hexagon222]

I’m not familiar with this person, he was an evangelical preacher. It’s a good read on how individuality keeps us from God
https://utmost.org/individuality/

“Individuality counterfeits spirituality, just as lust counterfeits love. “

“We hinder our spiritual growth more than any other way by continually asserting our individuality.”

“The choice is either to say, “I will not surrender,” or to surrender, breaking the hard shell of individuality, which allows the spiritual life to emerge.”