Fater than speed of light.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by hybrid

when light encounter a dense medium, it loses energy, but it will not slow down, instead it will just vibrate less, but its wave length will increase so as to cover the same space in same time. ( photon energy content determines its color). what slows down is the transfer of energy.

A monochromatic beam of light doesn't change colour. It slows down. The spin which determines colour never changes but different colours have different spins. The constant is neither a speed nor a colour... it's the interaction.

also, it takes some time for light to cover a crystal medium because it sort of bounce back and forth of the medium before it finds its way out thru the medium. but the speed remains constant.

do you know how a photon travels from 1 point to another?


the skepticism and doubt about whether something can travel faster than light is borne of misunderstanding about the postulate of SR, which in turns became a firm belief in the scientific community, i.e. the firm conviction that c is the maximum speed in the universe.

although einstein said nothing about that, all he said was that light is always measured to be c. so you see, that belief has no basis at all.

You know a photon travels from one point to another because an electron at one point emits a photon and it arrives at another electron somewhere else...

The path a photon takes is not a straight line though, it can take any path at all... so it's all to do with adding the probabilities...

It just becomes that c is the d/t for a photon in a vaccuum.

[Gem]

It isn't real, it's surreal, and these old fashioned pictures of waves bring us straight back to wave particle duaity.

Even your first diagram specifies the two point model, but then it draws waves as though there's a material medium, but more accurately it is a probability amplitude and a medium of potential/possibiity

Originally Posted by hybrid

energy transfer is real, it's not conceptual. it's relative but not subjective. and duality has nothing to do with it. most models in physics are based on energy dynamics.

[hybrid]

Originally Posted by Gem

A monochromatic beam of light doesn't change colour. It slows down. The spin which determines colour never changes but different colours have different spins. The constant is neither a speed nor a colour... it's the interaction.

well just as well take it all the way down. the constant is the rate in which space is created over time.

You know a photon travels from one point to another because an electron at one point emits a photon and it arrives at another electron somewhere else...

yes. it emits when an electron loses energy and goes down to the lower orbital. and appears somewhere where an electron goes up to a higher orbit. (gain energy)

The path a photon takes is not a straight line though, it can take any path at all... so it's all to do with adding the probabilities...

yes. no one has seen a traveling photon. it is highly possible t hat it does not exists at all and just a result of our energy measurements.

using statistics to predict its next position is due to the fact that the statistical mathematics of wave mechanics corresponds to electrodynamics. i.e. the the square root of the mean average of the waves amplitudes give you the approximate resultant amplitude. (something like that hehe, ).

It just becomes that c is the d/t for a photon in a vaccuum.

yes, but given the fact that everything are points dot matrix in a vaccum, c is always constant. meaning to say, a photon will always be 300km away from two electrons that exchange they energy in 1 second, or in proportion to the fraction of the time/distance thereof.

[Lightspirit]

whats faster than the speed of light?

The ability companies have bill you electronically for goods and services

Whats slower than honey dripping in sub zero temperatures?

A refund by the same companies using the same technology.

[hybrid]

Originally Posted by Gem

It isn't real, it's surreal, and these old fashioned pictures of waves bring us straight back to wave particle duaity.

the substance/medium that waves is as real as you whether it is material or non material. duality concept only enters the picture if you think in terms that waves and particles are of different things, instead of thinking that particles are the substance and waves are the motion of the SAME thing.

Even your first diagram specifies the two point model, but then it draws waves as though there's a material medium, but more accurately it is a probability amplitude and a medium of potential/possibiity

the potential aspect of existence is not in which something can come out of nothing, but of something that could be anything.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by hybrid

the substance/medium that waves is as real as you whether it is material or non material. duality concept only enters the picture if you think in terms that waves and particles are of different things, instead of thinking that particles are the substance and waves are the motion of the SAME thing.

It is the same thing... yrp

the potential aspect of existence is not in which something can come out of nothing, but of something that could be anything.

Good point.

I was saying just that, but portrayed it buy removing the third element which 'defines' duality, and indicating then that duality is not what people say, and it has nothing to do with two things... because two things are requisite of a third defining indicator, thus there is one 'state' which can be multi-faceted... but duality is indistinguishable from singularity which is the essence of subjectivity, and by that I do mean random chaos, it's still a very exacting thing... um it's itself so to speak, but there is no 'what it is'.