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17-02-2014, 01:55 PM
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sign of enlightment
what is m main sign of enlightment have any one experienced
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17-02-2014, 02:41 PM
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i have no idea, but i've read this.
before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.
after enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.
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17-02-2014, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tainamom
i have no idea, but i've read this.
before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.
after enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.
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I've read this also; its about "humility" ...
I have felt a complete floating weightlessness similar but beyond the after effects of sex, humbleness, acceptance - a release of chains (burdens) on my soul, trust in my intuition, higher comprehension when communicated with, greater understanding of purpose, people & the world ...
I've had many ...
They liven/wake the soul ...
However, they did not fill my mouth w/spiritual words or change my style of dress or burn incense or provide supernatural powers or make me feel compelled to preach it to people ...
I've read stories by other members whose awakening/enlightment was far different from mine ...
Hopefully, they'll chime in so you will have more than one reference ...
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17-02-2014, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rijhumal
what is m main sign of enlightment have any one experienced
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Realizing that you aren't any more enlightened than others, you're just like everybody else. Others may believe differently or come from different environments, but we're all human. Realizing we share the faults that we see in others.
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21-02-2014, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Seawolf
Realizing that you aren't any more enlightened than others, you're just like everybody else. Others may believe differently or come from different environments, but we're all human. Realizing we share the faults that we see in others.
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Questions this. Here's an example. Two persons, and one wishes to hurt or harm another, and the other does not. One person can say no, the other does not. They are different. Is one further along then the other. Now I say, one is. Because in regard to both, neither see what they do as wrong. What is done is never based on right or wrong. I'm not ashamed to say I'm not as enlightened as the Dalai Lama say but I don't believe him superior to me. I think there are levels. Would you buy this?
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21-02-2014, 04:40 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Salford, UK
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Originally Posted by lemex
Questions this. Here's an example. Two persons, and one wishes to hurt or harm another, and the other does not. One person can say no, the other does not. They are different. Is one further along then the other. Now I say, one is. Because in regard to both, neither see what they do as wrong. What is done is never based on right or wrong. I'm not ashamed to say I'm not as enlightened as the Dalai Lama say but I don't believe him superior to me. I think there are levels. Would you buy this?
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I'm not sure there are degrees of enlightenment
(Although I'm not enlightened, so what do I know?)
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21-02-2014, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lemex
Questions this. Here's an example. Two persons, and one wishes to hurt or harm another, and the other does not. One person can say no, the other does not. They are different. Is one further along then the other. Now I say, one is. Because in regard to both, neither see what they do as wrong. What is done is never based on right or wrong. I'm not ashamed to say I'm not as enlightened as the Dalai Lama say but I don't believe him superior to me. I think there are levels. Would you buy this?
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Looks at this.:)
how much you selling this for?
Right/ wrong.....differences/sameness.........levels/?
If I fill in the blank will you buy this?
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17-02-2014, 04:47 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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commonality among all living creatures
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17-02-2014, 06:11 PM
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Knowing you can't come into a thread entitled "signs of enlightenment" and think you have the answer....
wait...
dammit! :)
~Naddread~
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17-02-2014, 09:33 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: The Matrix
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according to the vedas, and krishnamurti, the enlightened ones never dream. psychologically speaking, nothing is carried over so the slate is clean come sleep time.
also a sign of enlightenment, i imagine, would be a certain vacuity or emptiness; an inability to form psychological concepts, philosophies or theories, due to being, literally, stuck in the now...or as one sage put it "like having your head stuck in the universe". enlightenment can't do anything else, its incapable of being sad or in conflict. i believe the brain cells are even changed so as to even physically not allow energy blocks, which would materialise from conflict.
an interesting point also, i think, is that apparently there is no "experiencer" of enlightenment, there is only that. to experience enlightenment implies a centre from which the experience takes place, but isn't enlightenment the end of the central censor?
id guess there are no alive enlightened beings on earth at the moment. ive not seen/heard any. could be wrong tho
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