are evil souls reincarnated??

[davidsun]

Michael Newton's books contain accounts of recollections of past-life experiences as well as between-life experiences of souls who had committed what may be called evil acts as well as of more advanced souls who function as healers in their present life as well as as soul-restoration specialists in the spiritual domain between lines up.

For anyone interested, an account of a life wherein a soul had done much harm to others but then been restored and thereby been given a new beginning so to speak is included in Chapter 7 of the book Memories of the Afterlife: Life Between Lives Stories of Personal Transformation, titled Lothar the Barbarian.

The following excerpt is from the transcript of Case 21 included in Ch.4 of the book Destiny of Souls, titled Spiritual Energy Restoration:

Dr. Newton: Since you work with severely damaged souls {between lives, that is}, can you give me a little more information about where duties?

Subject: I'm in a special section working with those souls who had become lost in a morass of evil.

Dr. Newton: (after learning this subject works only with those souls from Earth read incarnate it on other worlds before they came to Earth) In this section, of these the hybrid souls I've heard about?

Subject: Yes, in a restoration area where we deal with those who have become atrocity sells.

Dr. Newton: What a terrible name to call a soul!

Subject: I'm sorry you are bothered by this, but what else can call the being associated with acts of evil that are so serious they unsalvageable in the present state?

Dr. Newton: I know, but the human body had a lot to do with . . .

Subject: (cutting me off) We don't consider that to be an excuse.

Dr. Newton: OK, then please continue with the nature of your work.

Subject: I am a seconds-stage restorer.

Dr. Newton: what does that mean?

Subject: when the souls lose their bodies, they are met by their guides and perhaps one close friend. That first stage does not last long and then the souls who had been involved with horrible acts are brought here to us.

Dr. Newton: Why doesn't this first stage last as long as with other souls?

Subject: We don't want them to begin to forget the impact of their deeds—the harm and pain they caused on Earth. The second stage separates them from the uncontaminated souls.

Dr. Newton: This sounds like you are running are a leper colony.

Subject: (abruptly) I am not amused by that remark.

Dr. Newton: (after apologizing) You are not saying that all souls who commit evil acts are hybrids souls, as you define them?

Subject: Of course not, that's my section. But you should understand some real monsters on Earth are hybrids.

Dr. Newton: I thought the spirit world was a place of order with masters of superior knowledge. If these hybrids souls are contaminated abnormalities in human form—souls with the inability to adjust to the emotional makeup of the human body—why were they sent here? This indicates to me the spirit world is not infallible.

Subject: A vast majority are fine, and they make great contributions to human society. You would have us deny all souls the opportunity to come to Earth because some turn out badly?

Dr. Newton: No, of course not. Let's move on. What do you do with these souls?

Subject: Others, way above me, examine their contaminated energy and light of just how the world of their earlier experience impacted on their human body. They want to know if this was an isolated case, or if other souls from that planet have had problems on Earth. If that is true, other souls from that world may not be permitted to come to Earth again.

Dr. Newton: Please tell me more about your section.

Subject: My area is not devoted to souls who have committed one serious act of wrongdoing. We worked with have been truly cruel lifestyles. The souls are then given a choice. We will do our best to clean up the energy by rehabilitation and if we think they are salvageable, they are offered a choice to come back to Earth in roles where they will receive the same type of pain they caused, only multiplied.

Dr. Newton: Could a salvageable soul be one who committed terrible atrocities in life but showed great remorse?

Subject: Probably.

Dr. Newton: I thought karmic justice was not punitive?

Subject: it's not. The offer represents an opportunity for stabilization and redemption. It usually will take more than one life to endure an equal measure of the same kind of pain they cause too many people. That's why I said multiplied.

Dr. Newton: Even so, I suppose most souls take this option?

Subject: You are mistaken. Most are too fearful that they will fall again into the same patterns. They also lack the courage to be victims in a number of future lines.

Dr. Newton: if they won't come back to Earth, then what do you do?

Subject: The souls will then go the way of those souls we considered to be unsalvageable. We will then disseminate their energy.

Dr. Newton: is this a form of remodeling energy—or what?

Subject: Ah . . . yes . . . we call it the breaking up of energy—that's what dissemination means. Certainly, it is remodeled. We break up the energy into particles.

Dr. Newton: I thought energy could not be destroyed. Aren't you destroying the identity of these contaminated souls?

Subject: the energy is not destroyed, it is changed and converted. But we might mix one particle of the old energy with nine particles of new fresh energy provided for our use. The dilution will make that which is contaminated ineffectual, but a small part of the original against the remains intact.

Dr. Newton: So, the negative badness energy is mixed with overdoses of new goodness energy to render the contaminated souls harmless?

Subject: (laughs) Not necessarily goodness but rather freshness.

Dr. Newton: Why would any soul resist dissemination?

Subject: Even though those souls who accept these procedures for their own benefit recover and eventually lead productive lives on Earth and elsewhere . . . there are souls who will not stand for any loss of identity.

Dr. Newton: Then what happens to the souls who refuse your help?

Subject: Many will just go into limbo, to a place of solitude. I don't know what will eventually happen to them.

(Dr. Newton's follow-up comment: As I have said before, soul contamination does not only come from the physical body. Certainly, the energy damage described in the last two cases indicates that souls themselves are in pure beings who also contribute to their own distress.

Before continuing, I want to make a statement about karmic choices here that is important for all of us to keep in mind. When we see people who are victims of great adversity and life, this does not necessarily mean they were perpetrators of evil or wrongdoing of any kind in a former life. A soul with no such past associations might choose to suffer through a particular aspect of emotional pain to learn greater compassion and empathy for others by volunteering in advance for life of travail.)

[Really!]

Davidsun, hopefully, you can clarify this ...
The account by a subject who was angry at his guides for incarnationing him w/the same attributes he had in his previous life that caused him to indulge in drugs (?) or suicide (?) again ...
I don't recall which issue it was or if it was both ...

[Amilius777]

I love what Kennedy brought up. Its true. People have misunderstood why people suffer.

It actually could be for countless reasons. That is why Christ was a bit annoyed when his disciples assumed the blind man sinned in a past life. He said he didn't. He was born that way for the "glory of God". Meaning his soul chose the life of a blind man not to experience blindness but to be an opportunity for others to open up in compassion.

But there could be some people who are blind and they are complete SOBs and it may be because blindness had to teach them something they didn't learn in their last life and they are definitely not learning it now again.

There are murderers who usually come back as murderers. It's not like a Serial killer like Jeffrey Dahmer will come back as an innocent person and get killed by another serial killer. It's more likely that Jeffrey Dahmer is stuck in a very low vibrational level which some would call Hell and he's probably acclimated himself to that vibration. Meaning he enjoys being evil and he will be an evil spirit forever unless he chooses to ever change but usually with people that swamped in negativity they find it hard to change. A lot of human evil spirits do change but it takes a lot of effort and willpower to want to change and move on. Some people just enjoy inflicting wicked stuff onto others. It gives them the same feeling you get when you kiss your dog or hug your mother. We can't understand it because their entire being is out of alignment.

His victims though could have been people who were in his Soul Tribe or Soul group who have had previous experiences with him in past lives which set up scenarios where they met. It doesn't mean he was meant to murder them. That was his own doing. They died as victims and perhaps in was in their soul-growth to experience victimhood to move beyond that thinking.

The possibilities for why we reincarnate are not the same just as no two souls are alike nor are snowflakes alike. This whole "new age Universalist" answer for deep metaphysical subjects has got to go. I know from personal experience that half of it is just junk-spirituality and pseudo **** from self-proclaimed gurus.

[Snow Goose]

Originally Posted by Amilius777

I love what Kennedy brought up. Its true. People have misunderstood why people suffer.

It actually could be for countless reasons. That is why Christ was a bit annoyed when his disciples assumed the blind man sinned in a past life. He said he didn't. He was born that way for the "glory of God". Meaning his soul chose the life of a blind man not to experience blindness but to be an opportunity for others to open up in compassion.

But there could be some people who are blind and they are complete SOBs and it may be because blindness had to teach them something they didn't learn in their last life and they are definitely not learning it now again.

There are murderers who usually come back as murderers. It's not like a Serial killer like Jeffrey Dahmer will come back as an innocent person and get killed by another serial killer. It's more likely that Jeffrey Dahmer is stuck in a very low vibrational level which some would call Hell and he's probably acclimated himself to that vibration. Meaning he enjoys being evil and he will be an evil spirit forever unless he chooses to ever change but usually with people that swamped in negativity they find it hard to change. A lot of human evil spirits do change but it takes a lot of effort and willpower to want to change and move on. Some people just enjoy inflicting wicked stuff onto others. It gives them the same feeling you get when you kiss your dog or hug your mother. We can't understand it because their entire being is out of alignment.

His victims though could have been people who were in his Soul Tribe or Soul group who have had previous experiences with him in past lives which set up scenarios where they met. It doesn't mean he was meant to murder them. That was his own doing. They died as victims and perhaps in was in their soul-growth to experience victimhood to move beyond that thinking.

The possibilities for why we reincarnate are not the same just as no two souls are alike nor are snowflakes alike. This whole "new age Universalist" answer for deep metaphysical subjects has got to go. I know from personal experience that half of it is just junk-spirituality and pseudo **** from self-proclaimed gurus.

Thats really interesting Amilious, i must admit the victum becoming the victimisers and vice versa thing never sat right with me. The everytime you are taking advantage of you raise higher theory never made much sense. Surely learning from the experience is the ultimate goal. You learn, you move forward. Constantly being a victim is not moving forward and is not learning.

As a side note I did meet a blind person who was also a pretty horrible person. He was a victim, he was bitter and the world owed him big time, those around him had to walk on eggshells.

I also like Belle's post about 'evil' acts carried out against us to be used as a learning lesson, what's the point in having these experiences if we don't learn from them, its no secret here that I don't get on with my mother, if you look at our composite birthchart its clear to see we came together to teach each other a lot, oh boy did I learn!

[Gustavo Woltmann]

Interesting topic. I was also wondering about the same thing.

[Really!]

Originally Posted by Snow Goose

Thats really interesting Amilious, i must admit the victum becoming the victimisers and vice versa thing never sat right with me. The everytime you are taking advantage of you raise higher theory never made much sense. Surely learning from the experience is the ultimate goal. You learn, you move forward. Constantly being a victim is not moving forward and is not learning.

Yup! ...

*-------------------------------------------------------*
I gave up that way of thinking after my husband was killed by a road rage driver on his way home from work late one evening ...
The thought of learning lessons caused more anger than necessary as well as resentment for which I have never felt to the core of my being ...
I beat myself up constantly from thinking I was responsible for his death for the purpose of growth (?) - we learned to suffer in unimaginable ways ...
I constantly thought about karma wanting revenge, then it enraged me more knowing I would never see justice after he seriously injured 2 men a few years later ...
The first year after my husband's death was the hardest ...
Everyday, I was on my hands & knees 2-3xs screaming, vomiting, begging for God to take away my anger & resentment at the man who killed my husband ...
The following years, I did it less per week ...
I'd always been a non-hater, all I learned was I could go insane for years including my kids ...
My 2 youngest each attempted suicide, they still have difficulties 9 1/2 yrs later ...
When faced w/the reality of death or serious injury or victimization, your beliefs can get tested to the point of wishing & praying for death ...
Believe me, no one is going to get brownie points for telling a grieving family they get to learn lessons from their loved one's death or someone who is seriously injured or actively dying or a victim ...
Best response for that is, W-T-F!!! ...
JMHO ...

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by Really!

Davidsun, hopefully, you can clarify this ...
The account by a subject who was angry at his guides for incarnationing him w/the same attributes he had in his previous life that caused him to indulge in drugs (?) or suicide (?) again ...
I don't recall which issue it was or if it was both ...

Hi, Really.

What is the context of "The account by a subject who was angry at his guides for incarnationing him w/the same attributes he had in his previous life that caused him to indulge in drugs (?) or suicide (?) again ..."?

From what I have gleaned from Michael Newton's case histories as well as from other sources like Jane Roberts' Seth character, guides just serve as 'guides', souls pretty much make their own choices, including the situational settings and attributes of the body-personalities they (next) incarnate into - they choose or 'select' one out of a series/range of 'scene' options they are pre-cognitively 'shown'. Without knowing more facts regarding the 'instance' that you cite, my guess is that the personality involved was just feeling frustrated and angry and projecting responsibility for the difficulties he was experiencing onto scapegoat 'targets' instead of availing himself of whatever 'guides' and 'guidings' he may have access to and creatively dealing with his 'problems' himself - which (not assuming and exercising personal responsibility) soul-inclination/tendency may well be what 'led' him to resort to drugs and/or suicide in 'escapist' fashion the first place.

[Really!]

Hi Davidsun,

Thanks for responding ...
The info came from a Michael Newton book, I can't remember which one, but I thought it was the following chapter to the one you posted ...
I've been searching for my Newton books, but I have so many books strewn throughout the house it's impossible ... Arrrrgh!

[Snow Goose]

Originally Posted by Really!

Yup! ...

*-------------------------------------------------------*
I gave up that way of thinking after my husband was killed by a road rage driver on his way home from work late one evening ...
The thought of learning lessons caused more anger than necessary as well as resentment for which I have never felt to the core of my being ...
I beat myself up constantly from thinking I was responsible for his death for the purpose of growth (?) - we learned to suffer in unimaginable ways ...
I constantly thought about karma wanting revenge, then it enraged me more knowing I would never see justice after he seriously injured 2 men a few years later ...
The first year after my husband's death was the hardest ...
Everyday, I was on my hands & knees 2-3xs screaming, vomiting, begging for God to take away my anger & resentment at the man who killed my husband ...
The following years, I did it less per week ...
I'd always been a non-hater, all I learned was I could go insane for years including my kids ...
My 2 youngest each attempted suicide, they still have difficulties 9 1/2 yrs later ...
When faced w/the reality of death or serious injury or victimization, your beliefs can get tested to the point of wishing & praying for death ...
Believe me, no one is going to get brownie points for telling a grieving family they get to learn lessons from their loved one's death or someone who is seriously injured or actively dying or a victim ...
Best response for that is, W-T-F!!! ...
JMHO ...

I can't begin to imagine what you have been through . What an amazing person you are!

[Really!]

Thank you ...
I am humbled ...