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Old 10-11-2016, 05:26 PM
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Changing my subconscious beliefs

I want to change my subconscious beliefs so I can attract and manifest better things into my life, what are some techniques to do that
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:37 PM
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As any occultist will tell you it's difficult to get to your subconscious - impossible to erase stuff directly (you can't unexperience anything you've experienced that has updated your subconscious) but there are ways to adjust how you react to things. Ongoing experiences will change it and if only we could organise the right experiences, how easy that would be.

Remember that your subconscious (if it can be compartmentalised at all) is the repository of experiences that have reached into you during your life (plus possibly some from previous lives - who could prove otherwise?) and seems to be stored symbolically (or partly so).

It's likely that the best you can hope for is reviewing aspects of it through your adult eyes (through meditation) thereby changing the effect it has on your social presence (some people call that "the ego" as if it's a fixed state). There's continual interaction between this ego thing and your subconscious - your past experiences influence the ego considerably. Likewise, any sensual input that draws matter up from your subconscious will affect it. It's a mechanism that no one really understands - certainly not the psychologists, except we know it's selective.

Even getting into deep trance doesn't change your subconscious - it might augment or refine things you bring to the surface. Deliberately getting anything in is probably easiest through intense psychodrama or the specialised use of sexual energies (because at certain points your consciousness breaks down). Austin Spare wrote a lot on this but his history begs a lot of questions about efficacy. It also needs care. There's something in the old adage of magic - don't make mistakes!

It might be easier to drill affirmations into yourself that will change your relationship with your surround, the people you meet, etc., once you've firmed up what you want to achieve. However, this isn't to say you can't override the reach of your subconscious or that ongoing experiences won't change it - obvious they will.

It is a big topic and I'll be as interested as you to read what others say.

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Old 10-11-2016, 10:55 PM
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I want to change my subconscious beliefs so I can attract and manifest better things into my life, what are some techniques to do that

The technique that has worked for me is giving yourself permission to access it. Say it because these are powerful words.

In what I have read, it is said the subconscious follows. The subconscious follows the orders of the conscious side. The subconscious does what it is told. A little hard to grasp. I've noticed the conscious side has the barriers.

When you access the subconscious, it is what we call the higher self. You always access the subconscious consciously. This is what they're saying. You will find, there are new observations and new information. Anyway this is the technique I use.
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:59 PM
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Ok how do I give myself permission
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Old 10-11-2016, 11:04 PM
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This is a beautiful request and I would love to help you :)

In order for this to occur, one must realize the following:
A) Their subconscious beliefs are powered by stories of the past - stories that can be re-imagined in a way that creates the utmost power within the user. Our stories can either detract from the love we have for ourselves and the trust we have in our intuition (higher self) or it can supply those both. - In the beginning we are wrapped up in negative self beliefs stemming from stories of the past.

How to do this? - Buy the book Fast Money by Stuart Lichtman, it's a phenomenal book. If you don't wanna drop 100$ (worthy of $100,000) then listen to a minuscule detail from it that I will share // have extrapolated from it and from life lessons.

When you feel those bad feelings - in any situation - wether it's longing for love or procrastination or having a hard time speaking up, ANYTHING that is counter-intuitive to your intuition.. Close your eyes and ask where that feeling comes from.. And a memory will pop up from your past.. Ask yourself for a story even earlier from that story where you felt the same way ... It will pop up, keep asking until you are as far back as possible..
You will remember stories that either you purposefully supressed or just completely forgot about.

Make sure you remember all of these stories. When you get to the last one, now imagine it going as good as possible - as if nothing bad had happened, imagine it being the happiest story you heard all day. Then remember the old story and light it up in flames and say to yourself "let the energy released from these ashes empower this new story that I am embedding into myself" and then expand that story 100X width and 100X length. Then increase the brightness of the story 100%, and increase the volume 100%.. Then go into the next earlier story you had remembered until you do it for all of them.

^^ So that technique is VITAL for breaking out of feelings that are blocking your chakra from flowing freely throughout your body.. Imagine being a shapeshifter that has chains on it's feet, hands, arms, legs, neck keeping you from shifting into certain things.. Well that's how it is.

Now, to manifest a better destiny.. The truth is that you need to have COMPLETE faith in your intuition. This is brought about by fostering complete love for yourself. The way you do this is by consciously deciding that you want to become as 'warm' as possible.. Just imagine what that means, let the feelings come about, let an image of warmth come about. Consciously make an effort to build as much of a deep connection within yourself as possible - fueling your passions, fueling your personality, speaking your truths, breaking out of societal norms, being yourself and truly you without care for what anyone else thinks (but in a centered warming way of love for everyone)


Once you build a deep enough connection, you may then begin asking your higher self for very specific futures that you want by imagining them as vividly as possible - smells, sounds, feelings, quantitatively, visually, tastes. And then you trust your intuition FULLY to take you there. And you get there :) As long as you believe in your intuition and have done everything I said above.

PM me with more questions ;)
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Old 10-11-2016, 11:06 PM
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Ok how do I give myself permission
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There are many good books out there on the subject. I have to admit what I have learned is time and patience. I think in all things spiritual, when one is ready it will be presented.
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Old 10-11-2016, 11:12 PM
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I want to change my subconscious beliefs so I can attract and manifest better things into my life, what are some techniques to do that

Subconscious literally means below the level of conscious awareness. To locate these beliefs, take a look at what you desire to attract, then ask yourself what beliefs are getting in the way.

In this way you will be making conscious what is sometimes called the personality complex. Ironically, by bringing consciousness to the energy that holds the complex together, your desires may end up changing.

There is a freedom from desire that can be difficult to speak about. Maharaj said desirelessness is bliss. But bliss is a body feeling and bliss can be desired. So what gives?

What gives is the nature of desire itself. When you get what you want, the satisfaction we experience is the absence of the desire. Of course desire creates a tension to the experience that can be fun to explore, and play with, but when it transgresses into the suffering domain it can sometimes feel like something is going horribly wrong.

In this sense I differentiate between seeking and desire. I consider desire a spontaneous movement in creation, which isn't to say planning and lots of thinking may not be involved in the enterprise itself. Seeking is an escape from feeling, and most desires in the mind identified state, will become laced with an unconscious need to seek a sense of self through what you want. The absence of that need is experienced as liberation, but the liberation itself is not the result of a personal desire.
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Old 11-11-2016, 01:10 AM
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What I did?
Because that is the only place I can speak from...
I read and read words of Truth ...of experience from others...
Hafiz, Kabir, Jesus, Mirabai, many Gurus and Yogis...Mystics and saints...
until my mind became saturated with one thing ...the love and magic and glory of this Supreme Being that permeates everything.

Once ready/ prepared ...I was given a solid Divine Experience (xs
about 15)...then, my subconscious beliefs...my deep core belief system only trusted in what was of the Divine One...nothing
a human said meant a thing...only the promises and the words from either God or those that were
channeling God...meant anything.
and the glory of the direct exp of the Divine...remained.
(How many times do you hear someone say the would 'glory'...I mean, come on....!)

Example..the mind or the newspapers say, "You could never get this job...There are 500 applicants."
Means nothing to me...I believe my Father God...I love you and want you
to be happy and abundant.

THAT is what I place into my subconscious mind.

And so far so good!
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Old 11-11-2016, 01:59 AM
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This is a beautiful request and I would love to help you :)

In order for this to occur, one must realize the following:
A) Their subconscious beliefs are powered by stories of the past - stories that can be re-imagined in a way that creates the utmost power within the user. Our stories can either detract from the love we have for ourselves and the trust we have in our intuition (higher self) or it can supply those both. - In the beginning we are wrapped up in negative self beliefs stemming from stories of the past.

How to do this? - Buy the book Fast Money by Stuart Lichtman, it's a phenomenal book. If you don't wanna drop 100$ (worthy of $100,000) then listen to a minuscule detail from it that I will share // have extrapolated from it and from life lessons.

When you feel those bad feelings - in any situation - wether it's longing for love or procrastination or having a hard time speaking up, ANYTHING that is counter-intuitive to your intuition.. Close your eyes and ask where that feeling comes from.. And a memory will pop up from your past.. Ask yourself for a story even earlier from that story where you felt the same way ... It will pop up, keep asking until you are as far back as possible..
You will remember stories that either you purposefully supressed or just completely forgot about.


Suppression tends to be an unconscious phenomenon, meaning it takes place from the mind identified state under the guise of the belief that consciousness actually is the appearing mind in consciousness. From that mind identified state, there is no volition. At the same time, I don't have an issue with saying within a certain context it is possible to intentionally avoid energy.

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Make sure you remember all of these stories. When you get to the last one, now imagine it going as good as possible - as if nothing bad had happened, imagine it being the happiest story you heard all day. Then remember the old story and light it up in flames and say to yourself "let the energy released from these ashes empower this new story that I am embedding into myself" and then expand that story 100X width and 100X length. Then increase the brightness of the story 100%, and increase the volume 100%.. Then go into the next earlier story you had remembered until you do it for all of them.


You can't actually rewrite the past, and the good thing is you don't need to. You can be conscious of a need for resolution, and sometimes that resolution comes through what you might think of as regression. This regression sometimes involves making emotional conflicts conscious. In the expression of the suppressed emotion, you don't need to make up new stories to attract new better experiences. You will naturally experience life without the distortion of the suppressed emotion, and that will be a much welcome absence, and will indeed change your point of attraction.

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^^ So that technique is VITAL for breaking out of feelings that are blocking your chakra from flowing freely throughout your body.. Imagine being a shapeshifter that has chains on it's feet, hands, arms, legs, neck keeping you from shifting into certain things.. Well that's how it is.

Now, to manifest a better destiny.. The truth is that you need to have COMPLETE faith in your intuition. This is brought about by fostering complete love for yourself. The way you do this is by consciously deciding that you want to become as 'warm' as possible.. Just imagine what that means, let the feelings come about, let an image of warmth come about. Consciously make an effort to build as much of a deep connection within yourself as possible - fueling your passions, fueling your personality, speaking your truths, breaking out of societal norms, being yourself and truly you without care for what anyone else thinks (but in a centered warming way of love for everyone)


Once you build a deep enough connection, you may then begin asking your higher self for very specific futures that you want by imagining them as vividly as possible - smells, sounds, feelings, quantitatively, visually, tastes. And then you trust your intuition FULLY to take you there. And you get there :) As long as you believe in your intuition and have done everything I said above.

PM me with more questions ;)

Ok, but if you approach the ask the higher self question from a place of identification, you will implicitly be in a compensation process for an unconscious sense of deficiency. This perceived deficiency will then alter point of attraction in a counter intelligent way, meaning counter to your mind's intelligence and what was being asked for in the first place, because what's actually being asked for is more seeking and suffering masquerading as liberation.
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Old 11-11-2016, 02:05 AM
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I see you are posting in multiple sections...this is a no-no.
I can not keep up!
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