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05-04-2024, 05:57 AM
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Talk about who is God....
We discuss who is God. Those who believe in God can claim that I Am God, that God is God and somewhere in between. It strikes me that there is a third player in this game. Often in my life there is no God other than death. Death is God often in my experience.
The characteristics of death being God are usually dire. The bottom line, or null point. When all order and civilisation expire then death is God. Death often overrules others and makes it's claim.
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05-04-2024, 11:25 AM
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What do you mean by death?
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05-04-2024, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Honza
We discuss who is God.
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A very wise Man ( Meister Eckhart ) once said,
"I pray God rid me of God"  |
05-04-2024, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sky
A very wise Man ( Meister Eckhart ) once said,
"I pray God rid me of God" |
This quote is easily not understood.
https://dailymeditationswithmatthewf...-via-negativa/
This link has a very good talk on this and other quotes to really understand the abstract, if you will, or deep meaning of his words.
We can let this letting go become our prayer. Thus Meister Eckhart confessed that he “prayed God to rid me of God.”
One must recognize the importance of letting go in this radical way of no-images...
No symbols or images are allowed to hang around—not even our names and symbols for God; we pray even to let go of God.
The entire talk explains so much .
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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05-04-2024, 02:20 PM
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Since this is posted in Christianity, rather than General Beliefs or Philosophy - I would not say God is death.
In fact, even saying 'God is everything or I am God' does not really fit so much into Christian teachings
and beliefs - I could be wrong.
So, tho my initial reaction to this first post is "What? God is death?", I will say -
first of all: There is no real death...and God is way more than death as we experience it.
''Energy can it be created or destroyed. It can only be changed from one form to another.'' - Albert Einstein
I could make a list:
God is Life
God is change
God is gravity
God is love
God is oxygen
God is matter
God is space
God is pure energy and light.
God is everything and nothing. And so on. You get my drift.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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06-04-2024, 12:08 AM
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Death is an illusion. The appearance of life and death are a play of opposites within infinite life. Life is all there is. God is life. The truth behind the appearance of life and death is an underlying oneness that is expressed through the play of opposites.
There is only an appearance of beginnings and ends. They appear to rise and fall within the infinite. For example, where did our human form begin? When it was born? When it was conceived? It can be traced further back through the forms of our parents and their parents etc. Equally with death, the human form returns to the planet from and within which it always existed.
Back to the main question. God is that which doesn't change. The world of change appears within God, or we could say in the dream of God, where God is infinite consciousness, stillness, peace, timeless, perfect, formless, unlimited, infinite oneness, love.
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06-04-2024, 01:31 AM
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God is dependent on one's belief system.
Having said that, some even say there is "no God".
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Even within Christianity, we have this discontinuity.
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06-04-2024, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
even saying 'God is everything or I am God' does not really fit so much into Christian teachings...I could be wrong.
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My feeling is that the idea that god is everything and that I am God is compatible with the teachings of Jesus. Many Christians, especially fundamentalists, may not agree with this. But my experience of Jesus says otherwise.
I am not sure whether Jesus would describe himself as a Christian given the distortions made of his teachings. Maybe Jesus is better described as an Essene rather than as a Christian. |
06-04-2024, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by charly233
... Maybe Jesus is better described as an Essene rather than as a Christian.
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Yes, a Jewish Essene. :)
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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06-04-2024, 03:28 PM
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One thing I notice is that nobody is conscious of death. There are a few exceptions, but generally death lies beneath our radar. It sneaks up on us without our knowing it. I feel pretty sure that I am one of the exceptions. I'm pretty conscious of death. It is not pretty. Life is not perfect to me. It is full of glaring errors and inconsistencies.
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