The Subconcious Mind : Love it or Leave it

Originally Posted by NightSpirit

Have you ever tried to master the idea of meditation, where you allow rising thoughts to flow through and not give them any attention? It can be accomplished with practice and discipline. What I found when I finally achieved that state, was to fall asleep. So I gave up meditation lol

Also think about this. Have you ever walked to a room or somewhere to do something you had in mind and when you get there, you're mind has totally forgotten what it was you came in there for?

I reckon, reaching the point you mentioned in your OP of bypassing all thoughts, would be much like a perpetual state of 'forgetting what you were about to do'.
Not my cup of tea! I'm here with the gift of identifying as a necessity to living.

I think I see what you are saying NS. The forementioned concepts aren't to do with the extermination of the subconcious. but rather the overhaul of it. Now I still don't think this is doable.

What I've found with meditation is that there it puts sme distance between you & thought by the very postulate of the practice therefore hopefully giving you greater freedom from reactive patterns.

Personally I strive to forget who I am & love those moments when the wheels fall off, but hey I'm strange that way. :)

[NightSpirit]

Originally Posted by not human

I think I see what you are saying NS. The forementioned concepts aren't to do with the extermination of the subconcious. but rather the overhaul of it. Now I still don't think this is doable.

What I've found with meditation is that there it puts sme distance between you & thought by the very postulate of the practice therefore hopefully giving you greater freedom from reactive patterns.

Personally I strive to forget who I am & love those moments when the wheels fall off, but hey I'm strange that way. :)

mmm...i tend to agree with you nh. Like the drawer of socks, I think the subconscious would be needing a regular clean-out to rid yourself of those odd socks with no match. It would just keep building up with junk....that's my theory anyway

I love your analogy of 'when the wheels fall off' lol....its really a personal choice, isn't it? I'm pleased you feel quite comfortable with being that way.

Originally Posted by NightSpirit

mmm...i tend to agree with you nh. Like the drawer of socks, I think the subconscious would be needing a regular clean-out to rid yourself of those odd socks with no match. It would just keep building up with junk....that's my theory anyway

I love your analogy of 'when the wheels fall off' lol....its really a personal choice, isn't it? I'm pleased you feel quite comfortable with being that way.

Hi NS I wouldn't say I feel comfortable it's almost like a state of innocent wonder & then you catch the mind reaching to find a point of reference......but hey it's all good how else are we gonna spend our time? I think it was Aristotle who said "an unexamined life is not worth living" well 10 points for trying :)

[NightSpirit]

Originally Posted by not human

Hi NS I wouldn't say I feel comfortable it's almost like a state of innocent wonder & then you catch the mind reaching to find a point of reference......but hey it's all good how else are we gonna spend our time? I think it was Aristotle who said "an unexamined life is not worth living" well 10 points for trying :)

Wise words nh. I dont feel the need to examine that any longer. I'd like that just to hang there, if you know what I mean.