What is rincarnation

[AsherBryan917]

I'm starting to believe that reincarnation happens when you do not progress to the next stage of your spiritual evolution.

If you succeed you do not reincarnate but you advance to a being of a higher dimension.

Edit: Apologize for the error in the name of the title.

[Busby]

Originally Posted by AsherBryan917

I'm starting to believe that reincarnation happens when you do not progress to the next stage of your spiritual evolution.

If you succeed you do not reincarnate but you advance to a being of a higher dimension.

Edit: Apologize for the error in the name of the title.

What would the next stage of one's spiritual evolution be in this case?

[H:O:R:A:C:E]

the purpose of time is for experiences.
(according to all accounts) the spiritual realm is without a time dimension;
all things occur "now" on that side of the veil.
if specific experiences are desired, a time must be allotted for achieving them.
reincarnation may be associated with success/failure in a particular
endeavor, or it may not [depending on individual circumstances?].
to be manifest into physical reality may not be an indication of lowliness...
i've heard it described as being akin to a "master's class".

here's a video that vaguely relates:
Kryon - Master Of GOD~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGhdhY3wSys

[shoni7510]

Reincarnation is a means for souls to carry our lessons on a continuous basis just like going to school

[froebellian]

Reincarnation occurs fro many reasons; one is to evolve and learn and other reasons include incarnating to assist another member of the Soul Group.

We all succeed in an incarnation, but that success varies depending on what what was planned versus what was achieved.

[lauterb]

Dear All

PSe find below some quotes from The Spirit´s Book from Allan Kardec:

166. How can the soul that has not attained to perfection during the corporeal life complete the work of its purification?
"By undergoing the trial of a new existence."
- How does the soul accomplish this new existence? Is it through its transformation as a spirit?
"The soul, in purifying itself, undoubtedly undergoes a transformation; but, in order to effect this transformation, it needs the trial of corporeal life.”
- The soul has then, many corporeal existences?
"Yes; we all have many such existences. Those who maintain the contrary wish to keep you in the same ignorance in which they are themselves."
- It would seem to result from this statement that the soul, after having quitted one body, takes another one; in other words, that it reincarnates itself in a new body. Is it thus that this statement is to be understood?
"Evidently so."
167. What is the aim of reincarnation?
"Expiation; progressive improvement of mankind. Without this aim, where would be its justice?”
168. Is the number of corporeal existences limited, or does a spirit go on reincarnating himself for ever?
"In each new existence, a spirit takes a step forwards in the path of progress; when he has stripped himself of all his impurities, he has no further need of the trials of corporeal life."
169. Is the number of incarnations the same for all spirits?
"No; he who advances quickly spares himself many trials. Nevertheless, these successive incarnations are always very numerous, for progress is almost infinite."
170. What does the spirit become after its last incarnation?
"It enters upon the state of perfect happiness, as a purified spirit."

171. What foundation is there for the doctrine of reincarnation?
"The justice of God, and revelation; for, as we have already remarked, an affectionate father always leaves a door of repentance open for his erring children. Does not reason itself tell you that it would be unjust to inflict an eternal privation of happiness on those who have not had the opportunity of improving themselves? Are not all men God's children? It is only among selfish human beings that injustice, implacable hatred, and irremissible punishments are to be found."
All spirits tend towards perfection, and are furnished by God with the means of advancement through the trials of corporeal life; but the divine justice compels them to accomplish. in new existences, that which they have not been able to do, or to complete, in a previous trial.
It would not be consistent with the justice or with the goodness of God to sentence to eternal suffering those who may have encountered obstacles to their improvement independent of their will, and resulting from the very nature of the conditions in which they found themselves placed. If the fate of mankind were Irrevocably fixed after death. God would not have weighed the actions of all in the same scales, and would not have treated them with impartiality.
The doctrine of reincarnation-that Is to say, the doctrine which proclaims that men have many successive existence-is the only one which answers to the idea we form to ourselves of the justice of God in regard to those who are placed, by circumstances over which they have no control, in conditions unfavourable to their moral advancement ; the only one which can explain the future, and furnish us with a sound basis for our hopes. because it offers us the means of redeeming our errors through new trials. This doctrine is Indicated by the teachings of reason, as well as by those of our spirit-instructors.
He who is conscious of his own inferiority derives a consoling hope from the doctrine of reincarnation. If he believes in the justice of God, he cannot hope to be placed, at once and for all eternity, on a level with those who have made a better use of life than he has done but the knowledge that this inferiority will not exclude him for ever from the supreme felicity, and that he will be able to conquer this felicity through new efforts, revives his courage and sustains his energy. who does not regret, at the end of his career. that the experience he has acquired should have come too late to allow of his turning it to useful account? This tardily acquired experience will not be lost for him ; he will profit by it in a new' corporeal life.

Good reading!

[lifer76]

Originally Posted by lauterb

Dear All

PSe find below some quotes from The Spirit´s Book from Allan Kardec:

166. How can the soul that has not attained to perfection during the corporeal life complete the work of its purification?
"By undergoing the trial of a new existence."
- How does the soul accomplish this new existence? Is it through its transformation as a spirit?
"The soul, in purifying itself, undoubtedly undergoes a transformation; but, in order to effect this transformation, it needs the trial of corporeal life.”
- The soul has then, many corporeal existences?
"Yes; we all have many such existences. Those who maintain the contrary wish to keep you in the same ignorance in which they are themselves."
- It would seem to result from this statement that the soul, after having quitted one body, takes another one; in other words, that it reincarnates itself in a new body. Is it thus that this statement is to be understood?
"Evidently so."
167. What is the aim of reincarnation?
"Expiation; progressive improvement of mankind. Without this aim, where would be its justice?”
168. Is the number of corporeal existences limited, or does a spirit go on reincarnating himself for ever?
"In each new existence, a spirit takes a step forwards in the path of progress; when he has stripped himself of all his impurities, he has no further need of the trials of corporeal life."
169. Is the number of incarnations the same for all spirits?
"No; he who advances quickly spares himself many trials. Nevertheless, these successive incarnations are always very numerous, for progress is almost infinite."
170. What does the spirit become after its last incarnation?
"It enters upon the state of perfect happiness, as a purified spirit."

171. What foundation is there for the doctrine of reincarnation?
"The justice of God, and revelation; for, as we have already remarked, an affectionate father always leaves a door of repentance open for his erring children. Does not reason itself tell you that it would be unjust to inflict an eternal privation of happiness on those who have not had the opportunity of improving themselves? Are not all men God's children? It is only among selfish human beings that injustice, implacable hatred, and irremissible punishments are to be found."
All spirits tend towards perfection, and are furnished by God with the means of advancement through the trials of corporeal life; but the divine justice compels them to accomplish. in new existences, that which they have not been able to do, or to complete, in a previous trial.
It would not be consistent with the justice or with the goodness of God to sentence to eternal suffering those who may have encountered obstacles to their improvement independent of their will, and resulting from the very nature of the conditions in which they found themselves placed. If the fate of mankind were Irrevocably fixed after death. God would not have weighed the actions of all in the same scales, and would not have treated them with impartiality.
The doctrine of reincarnation-that Is to say, the doctrine which proclaims that men have many successive existence-is the only one which answers to the idea we form to ourselves of the justice of God in regard to those who are placed, by circumstances over which they have no control, in conditions unfavourable to their moral advancement ; the only one which can explain the future, and furnish us with a sound basis for our hopes. because it offers us the means of redeeming our errors through new trials. This doctrine is Indicated by the teachings of reason, as well as by those of our spirit-instructors.
He who is conscious of his own inferiority derives a consoling hope from the doctrine of reincarnation. If he believes in the justice of God, he cannot hope to be placed, at once and for all eternity, on a level with those who have made a better use of life than he has done but the knowledge that this inferiority will not exclude him for ever from the supreme felicity, and that he will be able to conquer this felicity through new efforts, revives his courage and sustains his energy. who does not regret, at the end of his career. that the experience he has acquired should have come too late to allow of his turning it to useful account? This tardily acquired experience will not be lost for him ; he will profit by it in a new' corporeal life.

Good reading!

In my opinion this is way overthinking it

Incarnation = many lives happening at once; reason to just experience . We are infinite beings so we are here to experience limitation, nothing to learn just experience

[Solarian]

Originally Posted by AsherBryan917

I'm starting to believe that reincarnation happens when you do not progress to the next stage of your spiritual evolution.

If you succeed you do not reincarnate but you advance to a being of a higher dimension.

Edit: Apologize for the error in the name of the title.

There is not just one reason for reincarnation. Some do it to help the earth and the inhabitants (the main goal is to raise humanity's vibrations and consciousness as a hole, we are currently going through this called Ascension.

Some do it to relearn a life lesson or for karmic reasons.
An example would be a rapist and a victim. In the next reincarnation, to atone for the sins, the rapist is in the role of a victim.

Most of us forget, hence the veil, each time we come back to reincarnate. Every time we die, we remember everything and are reconnected to our higher self.

Through Ascension we would no longer have to go through the forgetting and remembering stages. No longer would we have to reincarnate. Like I said we are evolving, this is happening now. There is no definite answer as to when we will be fully evolved, humanity has the power to determine the pace by raising our vibrations. I hope by 2023 though. The Mandela effect is huge evidence ;) google it.

[Solarian]

But also a good reason to forget each time we reincarnate is so we don't get distracted by our previous lives, unfinished business, ect. Nothing wrong with digging up the past to learn, but our main objective is our current life.

[William 辰]

And even if you have learned everything you still don't have to stop reincarnating. Old souls tend to come back again and again to help the planet, even though they have learned everything.

"The Spirit´s Book from Allan Kardec" It looks too much like a believe system to me. There are some good points in it, but others are too linear. The point of life is to realize nobody is inferior to anyone or anything. Treating everything as equal, no part of this world is more important than another. That's when you raise the vibration of the planet and justice begins to lose it's meaning.