!Beware of Egoic "Traps" to Sap Your Life-Force!

Vesica,

Reading your story was a very touching and emotional journey. Your past is the past of so many people I know, myself included. It takes a brave and confident person with a kind and compassionate heart to lay it all out there for others to see and learn from. Thank you.

well said "it is all good" could not had said it better

Ah, thank you all. Just coming back to this thread today. It is nice to see my "story" touched others as well. It is/was emotional for me.

Yes, Miss Hepburn, I agree with your ex, I am not militant and hold a deep and abiding respect for any path that leads a soul to a greater understanding & connection with their spirit and I see how Christianity is one of those paths - but I do feel any theological interpretation based on fear of punishment in any way is not what I would teach to children. Love is always the way. All ways. There are many.... I choose a reality where people are always forgiven, always loved, and have a choice in whether heaven or hell come about and that choice & manifestation of Spirit & Will is made every day.. Heaven, here, now - I choose love. *smile*

Thank you again.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by VesicaPhoenix11

Ah, thank you all. Just coming back to this thread today. It is nice to see my "story" touched others as well. It is/was emotional for me.

Yes, Miss Hepburn, I agree with your ex, I am not militant and hold a deep and abiding respect for any path that leads a soul to a greater understanding & connection with their spirit and I see how Christianity is one of those paths - but I do feel any theological interpretation based on fear of punishment in any way is not what I would teach to children. Love is always the way. All ways. There are many.... I choose a reality where people are always forgiven, always loved, and have a choice in whether heaven or hell come about and that choice & manifestation of Spirit & Will is made every day.. Heaven, here, now - I choose love. *smile*

Thank you again.

I just had this overwhelming feeling just now that the word hell should never
be taught to children, my gosh.
Hagee followers would disagree...if u don't know who he is ....good.

Originally Posted by VesicaPhoenix11

...I choose to be aware.

Thank you for this thread Sourcer - and for the realizations & emotions that came with responding to it. A gift, as always. *smile*

You are very welcome, Vesica. Your story is indeed a very powerful and clear expression of Awareness. I use "beware" as meaning "be aware," "be wary of," as that is originally what the word means, minus the fear that is often associated with the word "beware." And I also deliberately used "beware" humorously, knowing that people often associate it with a fearful warning, which I demonstrated in the original post as not being the case with my intentions.

Anger is really "one-fold," not "two-fold," meaning that the one and only cause of anger is NEVER anyone else's belief system nor doing, but rather one expresses anger ALWAYS as a response to THEIR OWN seemingly unfulfilled wishes. Anger is quite simply a response to one's own doing. This is obvious to see from a Higher Self perspective. For example: Johnny wants Mary to respond in a certain way to his telling her, "I love you." She doesn't say "I love you" back, for her own reasons which actually have NOTHING to do with Johnny, yet Johnny reacts with anger and upset and erroneously *be-lie-ves* that Mary's choice to not say "I love you" is what "caused" him to become angry. Using this example, in your story, the "Mary" that didn't seem to say "I love you" in return were those particular adults that taught some very fear-based religious beliefs.

At no point is ANY human being really a "victim" of anyone else, period, and the "law of attraction" clearly states, in essence, that each soul creates its own manifestations/incarnations. You may be quite aware that as your soul, "before" you were born you had already made agreements with other souls to be involved in the kinds of dramas that you related in your story. Much of it had already been "set up in advance" in terms of the illusion of linear causality, and the specifics of your experience came through your particular use of your "free choice." In this sense, anger (or ANY emotion) ultimately cannot be "two-fold," as all emotions are obviously a self-made response to what the soul itself (Universal Consciousness) has AGREED to create and experience in manifestation.

There is no "worldly" source for any of our emotions. It is therefore erroneous to believe that one's own anger comes as a response "because" of anyone or anything other than one's own consciousness, you see.

You said it powerfully: "I choose to be aware."

A contrivance of mischievousness would have me argue the toss here, suggesting that to a greater or lesser degree we have all fallen , do fall, will fall to the vagaries of the ego due to its limpet like attachment or even congruence with the instinct of self preservation.

But...in the respect of the thread title

!Beware of Egoic "Traps" to Sap Your Life-Force!

yes

Originally Posted by Neville

A contrivance of mischievousness would have me argue the toss here, suggesting that to a greater or lesser degree we have all fallen , do fall, will fall to the vagaries of the ego due to its limpet like attachment or even congruence with the instinct of self preservation.

But...in the respect of the thread title

yes

You are very wise, brother! There are no truly real "traps" in Consciousness. Your signature quote sums it all up quite well:

"Be the light you would like to experience."

Hi Sourcerer!

Originally Posted by Sourcerer

Anger is really "one-fold," not "two-fold," meaning that the one and only cause of anger is NEVER anyone else's belief system nor doing, but rather one expresses anger ALWAYS as a response to THEIR OWN seemingly unfulfilled wishes. Anger is quite simply a response to one's own doing. This is obvious to see from a Higher Self perspective. For example: Johnny wants Mary to respond in a certain way to his telling her, "I love you." She doesn't say "I love you" back, for her own reasons which actually have NOTHING to do with Johnny, yet Johnny reacts with anger and upset and erroneously *be-lie-ves* that Mary's choice to not say "I love you" is what "caused" him to become angry. Using this example, in your story, the "Mary" that didn't seem to say "I love you" in return were those particular adults that taught some very fear-based religious beliefs.

At no point is ANY human being really a "victim" of anyone else, period, and the "law of attraction" clearly states, in essence, that each soul creates its own manifestations/incarnations. You may be quite aware that as your soul, "before" you were born you had already made agreements with other souls to be involved in the kinds of dramas that you related in your story. Much of it had already been "set up in advance" in terms of the illusion of linear causality, and the specifics of your experience came through your particular use of your "free choice." In this sense, anger (or ANY emotion) ultimately cannot be "two-fold," as all emotions are obviously a self-made response to what the soul itself (Universal Consciousness) has AGREED to create and experience in manifestation.

There is no "worldly" source for any of our emotions. It is therefore erroneous to believe that one's own anger comes as a response "because" of anyone or anything other than one's own consciousness, you see.

Originally Posted by Vesica

Now, I have reconciled my anger, I've been tempered and gentled as my connection healed and became strong with the successes of my search and the realization - I was never lost, just blind to the path I was on... as all is meant and I intended to lose my way so I may know what fear is, what it is that drives people to believe a lie.

I dig Sourcerer - although I have a slightly different perspective - I did end the post with that realization (quoted above) - and well, children are children - I had lessons in mind that I did not become aware of until later - I reconciled my anger at about 19. But, I'm sure some one who needs those words will read them, the world seems to work like that.

Well wishes!

Originally Posted by VesicaPhoenix11

Hi Sourcerer!





I dig Sourcerer - although I have a slightly different perspective - I did end the post with that realization (quoted above) - and well, children are children - I had lessons in mind that I did not become aware of until later - I reconciled my anger at about 19. But, I'm sure some one who needs those words will read them, the world seems to work like that.

Well wishes!

Well wishes, Vesica!

Originally Posted by amy green

Sourcerer - this thread is insightful, very welcome and pertinent here .... particularly with regard to certain threads depicting that which your OP covers. Well done you!

Love lights our way.

Amy, speaking of "certain" threads, has S S run off?