"I am in the Father, the Father is in me"... Say WHAT?!?

[Tristran]

Originally Posted by Molearner

Tristan, The last words of Christ were "forgive them for they know not what they do". These things that we did that Christ asked God to forgive us for were things that we did by us using our free will to make choices.

This is just one of the many reasons that I believe in the reality of reincarnation. God forgives us by giving us another chance........and not just one chance but perhaps many chances. Consider also that even for those who supposedly made the right choice(confessing their faith in Christ) God might decide that reincarnation is necessary. In other words their simple confession of faith in Christ was not really apparent in the way they lived their lives after their 'confessions' of faith in Christ.

I simply believe that it is too fatalistic to believe that our choice is the final determining factor in our fate. It ignores the power of God to exercise His free will.

But with everyone being given the choice between YHWH or the Mark of the Beast, would you want to reincarnate into a world where the Mark will be inserted into your body at birth ?

This is the last generation to choose between Heaven or Hell.

Once that quantum computer D-Wave 2048 at CERN goes online with the usage of heavy lead ions to open up a permanent portal to the hexagon on prison planet Saturn, everyone will either be possessed by a demon or will be one of the 5 wise virgins taken to safety by Jesus Christ.

Reincarnating after that event will be a death wish.

God said that Revelation 9:1-4, 7-8 where Apollyon will rise from the Bottomless Pit will happen, so where do you want to be when that happens ?

So far His free will has not stopped CERN from going ahead with their plan and opening their star gate to Saturn.

Would you want the ultimate lawyer Jesus Christ to stand by your side on Judgment Day or to be alone ?

The mammon is useless on Judgment Day.

Originally Posted by Tristran

But with everyone being given the choice between YHWH or the Mark of the Beast, would you want to reincarnate into a world where the Mark will be inserted into your body at birth ?

This is the last generation to choose between Heaven or Hell.

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Tristan,

First of all, no one wants or should want to reincarnate. Reincarnation is not the ideal. Secondly, please define generation. How long is a generation? 20, 30, 40 years? People have been predicting the end of the world for countless generations and none of them have been correct. Matthew 24:6 tells that no man knows when that day will come.

Entrance into the eternal world, IMO, is not guaranteed by knowing or accepting the truth. It is gained by living the truth and that IS a matter of choice and free will. I would suggest that BECOMING love is the surest ticket to eternal life.

[Tristran]

Originally Posted by Molearner

People have been predicting the end of the world for countless generations and none of them have been correct. Matthew 24:6 tells that no man knows when that day will come

Well according to the UN, this is the Year of Light.

Lucifer is the light bearer.

CERN will be shutting down for maintenance in mid December.

So between October 16th (heavy Pb ion usage) and mid December this world is going to pass its point of no return.

Then the light bearer will appear and everyone will have a choice between the Mark of the Beast or starve.

Note: according to legend, CERN is constructed next to the village that is the gateway to Apollyon (the Abyss).

CERN has even stated with their own words that they want to open a portal.

[knightofalbion]

'I am in the Father, the Father is in me' which is what religion is, or should be, all about - recognising your latent divinity, reawakening it and bringing it to the fore.

Like all great wisdom, it's so simple ...

[jonesboy]

From the Gospel of Thomas

3. Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you. When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."

Maybe these lines will help explain it better.


24. His disciples said, "Show us the place where you are, for we must seek it." He said to them, "Anyone here with two ears had better listen! There is light within a person of light, and it shines on the whole world. If it does not shine, it is dark."

50. Jesus said, "If they say to you, 'Where have you come from?' say to them, 'We have come from the light, from the place where the light came into being by itself, established [itself], and appeared in their image.' If they say to you, 'Is it you?' say, 'We are its children, and we are the chosen of the living Father.' If they ask you, 'What is the evidence of your Father in you?' say to them, 'It is motion and rest.'"

90. Jesus said, "Come to me, for my yoke is comfortable and my lordship is gentle, and you will find rest for yourselves." 91. They said to him, "Tell us who you are so that we may believe in you." He said to them, "You examine the face of heaven and earth, but you have not come to know the one who is in your presence, and you do not know how to examine the present moment."

Pretty good stuff on where to look.

Within.

[Amilius777]

I think people over complicate Jesus.

Of course to the average literally minded person it sounds to them as if Jesus is talking about some exclusive relationship with God as if he were God himself talking to himself.

But if you actually listen to what Jesus is saying is simply that the Source of all power is within him and he is within It. That the Supreme Being like the fullness of the ocean dwells within him as a single drop (the son), and he the drop (the son) dwells within the whole ocean (The Father).

Jesus was a highly enlightened soul who lived and grew up in the Abrahamic faith and that is how he expressed his awareness of higher things. He was simple and to the point. He saw himself as a child, a beloved son and God was his father.

The thing is when he was outspoken about his purity and his uncompromising relationship he had to the divine or to what the chief priests literally saw as their god "Jehovah", they wanted to kill him for blasphemy.

When in reality Jesus' awareness of God is also ours, he just actualized it without compromise and unashamedly.