Have you seen heaven?

[Simontology]

On the near-death.com website there are a lot of descriptions of heaven. The sights, the sounds and the feelings of love and joy.
I was wondering if its possible, or if any one has tried it yet, to go and experience heaven during an astral projection?

[Astral Explorer]

Originally Posted by Simontology

On the near-death.com website there are a lot of descriptions of heaven. The sights, the sounds and the feelings of love and joy.
I was wondering if its possible, or if any one has tried it yet, to go and experience heaven during an astral projection?

Personally no I have not experienced it and I have had hundreds of projections. People need to have a very high vibration or be very advanced in astral projection to make it that far into the astral planes. What you are describing is infamous for the upper planes of the astral planes. To access those you need to have a rather high frequency vibration that is much higher than most of the vibrations we resonate with on the physical plane. This is why most people who project end up in the lower and middle planes, but through enough work on raising your vibration and experience in astral projecting eventually you can/will make it into the sections of the planes that people believe to be Heaven. Something to keep in mind is that Heaven is different for everyone, so what one person thinks is Heaven might be located in a completely different area of the astral planes than what the next person believes to be Heaven. Heaven is a man-made word for a man-made place. The idea of Heaven certainly exists in the astral planes but without a doubt what we Humans think it is is likely to be very off and possibly wrong. Paradise for one person could be Hell for the next so it's going to be impossible for anyone to say that they have been to Heaven, even if technically they have. Who is to say what Heaven is and is not? No one can say for sure.

[astralsuzy]

The author William Buhlman of ap books says you have try to let go of your beliefs. If you believe certain things then you are limiting yourself. If you think I have to do this or that for it to happen then that is what will happen. If you think I can do it and as Tobi says, very good advice, put love into your heart you will have a very good chance of getting there.

Originally Posted by Simontology

On the near-death.com website there are a lot of descriptions of heaven. The sights, the sounds and the feelings of love and joy.
I was wondering if its possible, or if any one has tried it yet, to go and experience heaven during an astral projection?

Heaven is supposed to be beyond the Astral World .
The closest I got to an idea of heaven at the astral is when I reached a beautiful serene little lake by a glen
where I somehow I couldn't help but have tears in my eyes as I got there after all the troubles I had been through before reaching it.
The other one is where I went to see my soul family at a level up a hill overlooking a glorious magnificient view of stream
(branching out into two and joining again, with creatures in it I can see clearly and closely like the turtle,
and beyond it is a fantastic beach paradise with the whitest sand.
I told my lady it is where i want to go for a vacation/holiday.

Simon, try looking into the site of Rick Richards below. I liked the way he presented an overview of the astral world which would also skim through the heaven and hell(I think) of your question.
http://www.rickrichards.com/astral/Astral3.html

[Tobi]

In order to reach landscapes and entities of love and joy on the astral, and experience what is known as heaven-states, it would be necessary to have those qualities vibrating naturally and strongly within you as a (fairly) default state. The astral has a way of bringing out what is subconscious in us, rather than the ideals and aspirations of our 'better days'. If the love, joy etc go so deep in us that we are at grass-roots, like that on the inside -then we might get there. Though of course it's possible to glimpse levels like that even if we can't always stay in them.

[Astral Explorer]

Originally Posted by Niebla0007

Heaven is supposed to be beyond the Astral World .
The closest I got to an idea of heaven at the astral is when I reached a beautiful serene little lake by a glen
where I somehow I couldn't help but have tears in my eyes as I got there after all the troubles I had been through before reaching it.
The other one is where I went to see my soul family at a level up a hill overlooking a glorious magnificient view of stream
(branching out into two and joining again, with creatures in it I can see clearly and closely like the turtle,
and beyond it is a fantastic beach paradise with the whitest sand.
I told my lady it is where i want to go for a vacation/holiday.

Simon, try looking into the site of Rick Richards below. I liked the way he presented an overview of the astral world which would also skim through the heaven and hell(I think) of your question.
http://www.rickrichards.com/astral/Astral3.html

Personally I disagree because in my astral journeys I have been to areas of the planes that if a very religious person would visit they would inevitably believe it to be and call it Hell. So if Hell like areas are reachable through astral projection then they are likely in the astral, and if Hell is in the astral then I am sure Heaven is as well. The problem with answering this question is that Heaven and Hell are not definable and they are not necessarily one single place that is located in the astral planes or some foreign dimension somewhere. Each person's idea and definition of Heaven and Hell is going to vary so for the spirits living in what I believe to be the lower planes. A lot of them are content where they are, they are happy to exist on a plane that mimics the physical dimension. They have no intentions of attempting to leave that area and journey higher up into the dimensions/planes. I have actually had full blown conversations about this. To them they are in their idea of Heaven. But the next person might end up there and believe they are in Purgatory and to them it is Hell. It is impossible to say where Heaven and Hell are truly located because they are not going to be one singular place, but instead their location and the idea of them is going to vary greatly from person to person, being to being, spirit to spirit.

[Shabda]

I have been out of body and witnessed the non dual reality of heaven, however, in that case the term astral projection doesn't fit as it is beyond the astral plane...the state that i witnessed was without form or shape, nothing could even be compared to any earthly forms or things seen on earth...there are many layers/planes/states of consciousness before reaching anything i would even remotely call heaven, but that is also just my experience and opinion of what i witnessed, not necessarily having any bearing on anyone else's experiences. One hundred thousand suns wouldnt be anywhere near as bright as the Light in that spot was to my eye, and from this place every soul that exists was plainly visible.

[Astral Explorer]

Originally Posted by Shabda

I have been out of body and witnessed the non dual reality of heaven, however, in that case the term astral projection doesn't fit as it is beyond the astral plane...the state that i witnessed was without form or shape, nothing could even be compared to any earthly forms or things seen on earth...there are many layers/planes/states of consciousness before reaching anything i would even remotely call heaven, but that is also just my experience and opinion of what i witnessed, not necessarily having any bearing on anyone else's experiences. One hundred thousand suns wouldnt be anywhere near as bright as the Light in that spot was to my eye, and from this place every soul that exists was plainly visible.

It sounds like a wonderful experience!

[Shabda]

Originally Posted by Astral Explorer

It sounds like a wonderful experience!

i have to agree, it certainly was, but i also want to be clear, i wasnt degrading astral travelling either, the point of it was more that one doesnt have to stop at the astral plane, none but one's own self stands in the way of going further up and further in, i recommend that everyone interested give it a try!

Originally Posted by Simontology

On the near-death.com website there are a lot of descriptions of heaven. The sights, the sounds and the feelings of love and joy.
I was wondering if its possible, or if any one has tried it yet, to go and experience heaven during an astral projection?[/size]

Yes, I did see heaven. Actually heaven is not the only one. There are many heavens on top of each other. If you look at heaven from Earth, it looks like a jam of fire, diamond and gold, many transparent layers shining trough each other.