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[Busby]

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To be fair there is still a lot of argument about evolution and its history. There is much yet to be discovered and almost certainly a lot to be changed about how evolution can really be defined. Plenty of evolutionists will tell you that they are not happy about the accepted state-of-the-art level of understanding and would be quite happy to stand the whole theory on its head. But basically we have to accept that there was a BigBang - however that in itself may be defined.

So there was a start, what came before we can only guess, but as the Vedas so suggestively put it universes come into and out of existence as Brahma breathes in and out.

[Honza]

Originally Posted by sky123

Yes some do believe in magic, I myself believed in magic as a child but as an adult my reality contains no magic but I do believe in Scientific evidence. Can evolution be compatible in Christianity was the queston... I personally believe it can be.

Is evolution compatible with magic? If yes then it is compatible with Christianity too. Christianity is based upon truths higher than science. Evolution follows the path of science. But Christianity and magic exist in different realms. There is evidence in my life that magic rules science. Therefore magic rules evolution. Christianity is the belief in God's world and God's law. A different realm to science - yet they interact.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Honza

Is evolution compatible with magic? If yes then it is compatible with Christianity too. Christianity is based upon truths higher than science. Evolution follows the path of science. But Christianity and magic exist in different realms. There is evidence in my life that magic rules science. Therefore magic rules evolution. Christianity is the belief in God's world and God's law. A different realm to science - yet they interact.

Sorry, I can't make head nor tails of your post , not to worry.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Busby

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To be fair there is still a lot of argument about evolution and its history. There is much yet to be discovered and almost certainly a lot to be changed about how evolution can really be defined. Plenty of evolutionists will tell you that they are not happy about the accepted state-of-the-art level of understanding and would be quite happy to stand the whole theory on its head. But basically we have to accept that there was a BigBang - however that in itself may be defined.

So there was a start, what came before we can only guess, but as the Vedas so suggestively put it universes come into and out of existence as Brahma breathes in and out.

Was there a start though... I don't know, mybe there is no beginning nor an end. It's a mystery. Mybe one day there will be concrete evidence, who knows. I like your quote from the Vedas, beautiful.

[Honza]

Originally Posted by sky123

Sorry, I can't make head nor tails of your post , not to worry.

You are asking if Christianity and evolution are compatible. I am saying that the answer depends upon what you think evolution is actually compatible with.

If evolution is compatible with 'other realms', 'magic' etc. then it is likely to be compatible with Christianity too.

It all depends upon what you believe evolution is compatible with in the first place.

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by sky123

' It's a bit ridiculous. Assessing that dinosaurs lived alongside humans '

Archeology would prove you wrong... The evidence is there is stone for all to see. I thought you followed and believed the biblical teachings ?


The Book of Psalms, the Book of Jeremiah, and the Book of Ezekiel all give additional verses that support what the Book of Job has already stated. Psalm 64:13 says, “You divided the sea by Your strength; You broke the heads of the sea monsters in the waters.” And “you divided the sea by Your strength; You broke the heads of the sea monsters in the waters” (Psalm 148:7). Isaiah the prophet describes a gigantic beast as both a dragon (Isaiah 51:9) and Leviathan (Isaiah 27:1). I urge you to read other verses like Psalm 74:13, 91:13, and 148:7 and also Jeremiah 51:34 and Ezekiel 29:3 and 32:2. You won’t see these at the zoo; they are long gone. However, there is a substantial amount of anthropic, paleontological, and historical evidence for the coexistence of dinosaurs and man. There are the fossilized footprints of humans and dinosaurs found together at the same places and at the same time in North America and West-Central Asia. Even though there aren’t many like this, it seems clear that the prophets, the psalmist, Moses, and Job wrote of these dragons, beasts, leviathans, or behemoths as if they had seen them. How else could they have described something in such finite detail if they hadn’t seen them with their own eyes? One example is the Book of Job, which describes these dragons or beasts as someone giving an eyewitness account.

"Finite Details"? There are no finite details of dinosaurs. "Behemoths" may easily apply to Hippos, Alligators or Crocodiles, Elephants possibly...
All the large species that have habited Africa, which examples may have been caught and brought back by armies or expeditions.

"Magic"??? Magic and evolution? Now this sounds like a setup. An agenda oriented O.P.
Strange.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

It's a bit ridiculous. Assessing that dinosaurs lived alongside humans.
Dismissing the geological finds of different ages involving levels of strata, and which indicate varying climate conditions.
But, here is the question... why is it imporant to Christians if a day is a 24 hour period, or an, "age"?

When modern science since Einstein tells us that time is illusory?

When did Einstein tell us that?

Based upon the orbit and revolution of the planet?

We, in this material plane of things are creatures of the physics and dynamic of this planet. All of which involves a, "fall".
One must consider the greater reality, involving the timeless, or eternity.
Eliminate what is illusory and what have you, but Creation? "Time" here, shouldn't be wasted on the creation/evolution debate. There are more important things for the believer to occupy themselves with.
You think?

[Busby]

Originally Posted by sky123

Was there a start though... I don't know, mybe there is no beginning nor an end. It's a mystery. Mybe one day there will be concrete evidence, who knows. I like your quote from the Vedas, beautiful.

Everything runs in cycles. So once the wheel has turned it all starts again. Each revolution different to the last. Only so can 'God' experience itself through countless existences.

[sky]

This vast universe is a wheel. Upon it are all creatures that are subject to birth, death and rebirth. Round and round it turns, and never stops. It is the wheel of Brahman/God. As long as the individual self thinks it is separate from Brahman/God it revolves upon the wheel in bondage to the laws of birth, death and rebirth. But when through the grace of Brahman/God it realises its identity with him, it revolves upon the wheel no longer. It achieves immortality.

[jojo50]

Originally Posted by Busby

There's only one answer to your question - Yes, absolutely. But not only to Christianity but to all beliefs and life in general. In fact just this morning I have, under Spiritual Development/ 'So God wants us to be perfect - right', added a few words which may be of interest.

no, God does NOT expect humans to be "perfect", because he KNOWS, that we were born through imperfection. Adam was a perfect man, if he had NOT partake that forbidden fruit, we would today be perfect. but Adam did, making him them imperfect. which cause ALL coming after him imperfect sinners,(Rom.5:12 -Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned). he just expect his servants to do their very best. peace