Back down to earth...

[RedEmbers]

From about the 60's through to the 90's there seemed to be a strong and growing spiritual/environmental movement... people connecting to and realising the great value of the earth after what appeared to be a long period of disconnect after the dying down of traditional earth based spirituality in favour of religions focused more on attainment and which separated this plane from the 'destination' of outer heaven/nirvarna ect.

I've often felt very out of place with most religions and spiritual branches currently available and one of the reasons has to do with the disconnect from practical, physical and earth based aspects of spirituality well as the off balanced energies between the devine masculine/feminine.

I often feel that mainstream spirituality seems somewhat disconnected and it appears that often it is assumed that once a certain level is attained earth becomes a useless plane for the continuing spiritual experience. ..

Often even when we think of the energy of charkras we think of 'ascending energy' from the so called 'lower charkras to the so called higher charkras. I see it as a cyclical flow... pretty much like everything else on the planet, the water cycle, the breaking down and recycling of matter and so forth.
I see our charkra energy flowing from the root to the crown and then returning through the earth and back through the root charkra again... not just from the root to the crown and out.

I feel like I have come full circle myself... I have had my time exploring the 'out there' aspects of spirituality, only to come right back down to earth, feel right at home here in the physical and now have a strong sense of needing to come into greater harmony with the planet which supports me.

To me it is not just about becoming balanced and enlightened to a point of ascending into a formless state... my connection has become much more anchored on this earth plane and motivated towards greater harmony with the natural world we co-habit...
Everything with exists out there in nature and the universe offers a reflection on how my internal universe operates... what is out there is within... why would I want to try and seperate myself from any of it? it sort of baffles me as to why anyone would seek to exist or ascend outside of all this as opposed to try and come into harmony within it.

This is my kind of spirituality :)

[God-Like]

Originally Posted by Colorful-Chameleon

why would I want to try and seperate myself from any of it? it sort of baffles me as to why anyone would seek to exist or ascend outside of all this as opposed to try and come into harmony within it.

The thing is C.C. is that many try and ascend prior to the union for many a reason, usually the reason being suffering related .

The sufferings can keep us in a form of separated awareness .

In union with self, there is no reason to see self in reflection of everything forevermore .

The self exploration involves harmonizing self with everything else .

Once that's achieved what's next ..


x daz x

[RedEmbers]

Originally Posted by God-Like

The thing is C.C. is that many try and ascend prior to the union for many a reason, usually the reason being suffering related .

The sufferings can keep us in a form of separated awareness .

In union with self, there is no reason to see self in reflection of everything forevermore .

The self exploration involves harmonizing self with everything else .

Once that's achieved what's next ..


x daz x

funnily enough I actually quite relate to this too
less and less I find I need these various forms of 'self reflections' and more am I really beginning to have a thirst and curiosity about everything beyond the extension of self. in various forms and more and more am I appreciating just how similar so many of the mechanisms in place (in our physical and spiritual worlds) are.
What the natural world still helps me to understand, as it does for others (by giving me a big metaphoric picture) is the nature of pretty much everything I seek to understand about the universe.

I myself have gone through a period of desiring to attain some other form of experience and what that desire actually did was pull me closer and closer to this earthy plane of existence.

I used to see this place in a very 3 dimensional plane... But by opening up to my innate curiosity and further exploring the nature of... well nature lol I can see that it is so much more... like a big layered onion there is just so much to discover...

and it does seem like the more that I learn... The more there is to learn...

Some may indeed ask 'enlightenment. . . Then what?' I used to feel this way somewhat... now I just see it as never ending... constantly changing and I have realized just how much is right under our feet to discover.

[RedEmbers]

I'd just like to add as a side note... All this has come about from a recent 'understanding' of my purpose here...
I have In the past felt quite saddened by the disconnect I have felt within the more westernised branches of spirituality. . .
for some souls such as myself... I feel that I have a great connection with this plane and feel that I intend to be here for a while. .. working with these energies ...With that feeling comes a sense of responsibility to (in my own corner) harmonise myself with it and in a small way... align these energies... or act as an anchor
I realize that we probably actually need those souls who are more ascension or higher charkra centred... and those who are naturally centred in their lower charkras to work together.

Gosh... This is actually the original reason I came to SF 2 years ago But up until now I have felt too embarrassed to talk about it here lol.

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by Colorful-Chameleon

I'd just like to add as a side note... All this has come about from a recent 'understanding' of my purpose here...
I have In the past felt quite saddened by the disconnect I have felt within the more westernised branches of spirituality. . .
for some souls such as myself... I feel that I have a great connection with this plane and feel that I intend to be here for a while. .. working with these energies ...With that feeling comes a sense of responsibility to (in my own corner) harmonise myself with it and in a small way... align these energies... or act as an anchor
I realize that we probably actually need those souls who are more ascension or higher charkra centred... and those who are naturally centred in their lower charkras to work together.

Gosh... This is actually the original reason I came to SF 2 years ago But up until now I have felt too embarrassed to talk about it here lol.

My sense of self (or my identity) was shattered a long time ago. I began my search but felt, as you have, the disconnection from humanity itself. I still feel lost and alone which pushes me to look for connections. I have my own ideas as to how the energies you speak of work and what they are but can I ask what the energies are and how you experience them?

[God-Like]

Originally Posted by Colorful-Chameleon

less and less I find I need these various forms of 'self reflections' and more am I really beginning to have a thirst and curiosity about everything beyond the extension of self

.

I actually started a thread about this C.C. many moons ago regarding a vivid dream I had of 3 owls that were self reflecting in a pond when they became aware of their own reflection .

One of the owls looked into a glass door that I stood behind and it noticed something beyond it's own reflection .

Very deep and meaningful dream that goes beyond the ordinary ..

At a point one notices something else .. I would say when that is one isn't seduced or distracted by their own reflection ..


x daz x

[RedEmbers]

Originally Posted by God-Like

I actually started a thread about this C.C. many moons ago regarding a vivid dream I had of 3 owls that were self reflecting in a pond when they became aware of their own reflection .

One of the owls looked into a glass door that I stood behind and it noticed something beyond it's own reflection .

Very deep and meaningful dream that goes beyond the ordinary ..

At a point one notices something else .. I would say when that is one isn't seduced or distracted by their own reflection ..


x daz x

what a beautiful dream.

[lemex]

Isn't it wonderful to find you were never alone in your thoughts and others feel as you. Wonderful post. The more we communicate we don't feel so alone. Like the song..... come together.

Hi CC

You're absolutely not on your own in thinking this. I am just back on this wonderful forum after leaving the community based 'spiritual' search' for 4 years. I felt there was a growing pains type pressure to move away from community based knowledge and a basic instinctive urge to take all the info I learned and digest it/use it in a meaningful and practical way.
It was one of the most profound things I did. Through actively living out some of the ideas I had shaped over my developing years, I managed to see what really works and what was just airy-fairy nonsense.
Since doing that, my conclusion is that (for me at least) the psychological and spiritual breakthrough I was looking for DEPENDED on the lower subtle energy centres. I had made the mistake of looking upwards and outwards for some great 'ascension', when the real changes were happening at ground level. The magnetic charge between us and the Earth is ironically the solution towards 'ascension' (in my opinion).
Funny too, it's been 4 years also since I have used 'spiritual terminology' like ascension etc. In my journey, they have all become a somewhat redundant vocabulary.
For me the key was - grounding - grounding - grounding....and one more time for luck ;) grounding! Once grounded, the energy takes root and blooms like a magnificent tree.

Best wishes on your continued journey.

Thanks