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04-07-2020, 04:55 PM
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Light of the Universe
in human race each and every individual is unique and diverse. among this uniqueness and diversity, what is said to be 'I' exists. That's what we call 'me' or my world. everyone has their own world and own perception about world in their mind and they experience it each moment. That means, in this world there are billions of other worlds which exist in the minds of these billions of humans.
In an individual's personal world, what glues the mind to the society is not the social awareness. instead, he is just moving with the flow of his surroundings.
In current world scenario, This motion of a person's inner world is controlled by religion, cast and certain people's thoughts and perceptions which is imposed to society. And it's not favourable to the actual flow of nature and proper evolution of a soul.
We all are unknowingly leading a life of ignorance by carrying and being influenced by the thoughts and perception of few people and twisted religious beliefs without realizing and experiencing actual law of nature and complete purity of the soul.
for example, a leader for a party is elected by the party members and these members perception and thoughts are actually of an important person who controls that party. He makes his party work by instilling his thoughts and perception to his members and the organization. and infact, these thoughts and perceptions form the country's operational efficiency. we have now come to a point where this same process is applied and call it democracy, autocracy, monarchy etc...
One fact we have to know is, the world or we as a person or society has been lost in our soul like this for millions of years
, without realizing or knowing the actual truth or law of nature and unaware of real purpose of our existance.
evam parampara-praptam
imam rajarsayo viduh
sa kaleneha mahata
yogo nastah parantapa (bhagavad gita 4:2)
This supreme science was thus received through the chain of disciplic succession, and the saintly kings understood it in that way. But in course of time the succession was broken, and therefore the science is lost.
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04-07-2020, 09:12 PM
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Your post had a promising start ... then you started to rationalize it.
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Everything expressed here is what I believe. Keep that in mind when you read my post, as I kept it in mind when I wrote it. I don't parrot others. Most of my spiritual beliefs come from direct channeling guidance. I have no interest in arguing whose belief is right, and whose is wrong. I'm here just to express my opinions, and read about others'.
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05-07-2020, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by inavalan
Your post had a promising start ... then you started to rationalize it.
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Good afternoon inavalan
Give the kid a break.
It's hard to keep the first thought in it's entirety, without getting in the way
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Have fun and enjoy
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05-07-2020, 01:18 AM
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Location: Auckland New Zealand
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Originally Posted by Renunciation
in human race each and every individual is unique and diverse. among this uniqueness and diversity, what is said to be 'I' exists. That's what we call 'me' or my world. everyone has their own world and own perception about world in their mind and they experience it each moment. That means, in this world there are billions of other worlds which exist in the minds of these billions of humans.
In an individual's personal world, what glues the mind to the society is not the social awareness. instead, he is just moving with the flow of his surroundings.
In current world scenario, This motion of a person's inner world is controlled by religion, cast and certain people's thoughts and perceptions which is imposed to society. And it's not favourable to the actual flow of nature and proper evolution of a soul.
We all are unknowingly leading a life of ignorance by carrying and being influenced by the thoughts and perception of few people and twisted religious beliefs without realizing and experiencing actual law of nature and complete purity of the soul.
for example, a leader for a party is elected by the party members and these members perception and thoughts are actually of an important person who controls that party. He makes his party work by instilling his thoughts and perception to his members and the organization. and infact, these thoughts and perceptions form the country's operational efficiency. we have now come to a point where this same process is applied and call it democracy, autocracy, monarchy etc...
One fact we have to know is, the world or we as a person or society has been lost in our soul like this for millions of years
, without realizing or knowing the actual truth or law of nature and unaware of real purpose of our existance.
evam parampara-praptam
imam rajarsayo viduh
sa kaleneha mahata
yogo nastah parantapa (bhagavad gita 4:2)
This supreme science was thus received through the chain of disciplic succession, and the saintly kings understood it in that way. But in course of time the succession was broken, and therefore the science is lost.
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The law cannot be escaped. " you reap what you sow " if you planted the seed of hate you'll reap your full reward for that. Many run from the law simply because they're wrong. They turn their tail and run from it. It's no use the law is the law and eventually they'll hit a brick wall. Justice shall prevail. Amen
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05-07-2020, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by muffin
Good afternoon inavalan
Give the kid a break.
It's hard to keep the first thought in it's entirety, without getting in the way
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I didn't intend to criticize. After reading the OP's first paragraph I got interested, probably because it was close to what I believe, but then, it wasn't what I hoped for. It felt like after a courageous beginning, he got afraid and fell back on smaller thinking. No offense intended.
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Everything expressed here is what I believe. Keep that in mind when you read my post, as I kept it in mind when I wrote it. I don't parrot others. Most of my spiritual beliefs come from direct channeling guidance. I have no interest in arguing whose belief is right, and whose is wrong. I'm here just to express my opinions, and read about others'.
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05-07-2020, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by inavalan
I didn't intend to criticize. After reading the OP's first paragraph I got interested, probably because it was close to what I believe, but then, it wasn't what I hoped for. It felt like after a courageous beginning, he got afraid and fell back on smaller thinking. No offense intended.
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Maybe it should be me saying sorry to you.
I know you weren't criticizing in anyway.
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05-07-2020, 04:45 PM
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when one person is hurt, only he experiences that pain, no one else does. Therefore, Experience is strictly personal. Thus, It's clear that knowledge is also personal, right?
Unless and untill you eat an apple and experience the taste of it by yourself, that fruit and it's taste is just an information for you, which you can believe or ignore. Similarly, how a person's soul came in to existance? how it evolved? thorough which forms it evolved? and at present it has taken a human form with a consciousness of 'I', hasn't it? all this process of evolution can be seen and experienced by yourself which is lying in the depth of your subconscious mind. Till you experience it, its merely a theory for you.
We human race has only a defect of not able to recollect the memories of our soul's history before we gained consciousness in this life, don't we?
Don't we tend to and like to ignore and reject, if someone says it's possible to recollect those memories? How many can we spot who are sincerely seeking such a way? If there are any, won't they please pay attention to it?
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05-07-2020, 04:52 PM
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My english is not that good. I am trying to convey messages with my limited knowledge in english.
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05-07-2020, 05:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Renunciation
when one person is hurt, only he experiences that pain, no one else does. Therefore, Experience is strictly personal. Thus, It's clear that knowledge is also personal, right?
Unless and untill you eat an apple and experience the taste of it by yourself, that fruit and it's taste is just an information for you, which you can believe or ignore. Similarly, how a person's soul came in to existance? how it evolved? thorough which forms it evolved? and at present it has taken a human form with a consciousness of 'I', hasn't it? all this process of evolution can be seen and experienced by yourself which is lying in the depth of your subconscious mind. Till you experience it, its merely a theory for you.
We human race has only a defect of not able to recollect the memories of our soul's history before we gained consciousness in this life, don't we?
Don't we tend to and like to ignore and reject, if someone says it's possible to recollect those memories? How many can we spot who are sincerely seeking such a way? If there are any, won't they please pay attention to it?
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I've done many regressions. They are like novels. They happened to other people than me.
We don't recall what / who we are because of the way we are raised and brainwashed by our day to day lives.
Remembering our past lives wouldn't be of much benefit, because those lives were symbolical circumstances that happened to us, like symbolical dreams. It wasn't important what happened, but only the message, and that one is safely stored into our subconscious (were there are those past lives memories too, actually).
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Everything expressed here is what I believe. Keep that in mind when you read my post, as I kept it in mind when I wrote it. I don't parrot others. Most of my spiritual beliefs come from direct channeling guidance. I have no interest in arguing whose belief is right, and whose is wrong. I'm here just to express my opinions, and read about others'.
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06-07-2020, 03:23 AM
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Location: Auckland New Zealand
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Renunciation
in human race each and every individual is unique and diverse. among this uniqueness and diversity, what is said to be 'I' exists. That's what we call 'me' or my world. everyone has their own world and own perception about world in their mind and they experience it each moment. That means, in this world there are billions of other worlds which exist in the minds of these billions of humans.
In an individual's personal world, what glues the mind to the society is not the social awareness. instead, he is just moving with the flow of his surroundings.
In current world scenario, This motion of a person's inner world is controlled by religion, cast and certain people's thoughts and perceptions which is imposed to society. And it's not favourable to the actual flow of nature and proper evolution of a soul.
We all are unknowingly leading a life of ignorance by carrying and being influenced by the thoughts and perception of few people and twisted religious beliefs without realizing and experiencing actual law of nature and complete purity of the soul.
for example, a leader for a party is elected by the party members and these members perception and thoughts are actually of an important person who controls that party. He makes his party work by instilling his thoughts and perception to his members and the organization. and infact, these thoughts and perceptions form the country's operational efficiency. we have now come to a point where this same process is applied and call it democracy, autocracy, monarchy etc...
One fact we have to know is, the world or we as a person or society has been lost in our soul like this for millions of years
, without realizing or knowing the actual truth or law of nature and unaware of real purpose of our existance.
evam parampara-praptam
imam rajarsayo viduh
sa kaleneha mahata
yogo nastah parantapa (bhagavad gita 4:2)
This supreme science was thus received through the chain of disciplic succession, and the saintly kings understood it in that way. But in course of time the succession was broken, and therefore the science is lost.
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There is only one world which is the physical world that we all live in, the rest is the mind's imagination. Yes there are many worlds but only one that matters, the physical world where reality exists and evidence of life is concrete and undeniable. Amen
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